Chris Hansen’s “To Catch a Predator” to Seek Revival

Definitely some ha-ha moments, but a bit scary if you think about how many instances like this go by without it being a sting.

Also I do question the legality of what they're doing here too. It really reeks of entrapment on some level.
 
Oh yeah, let's give the guy who was arrested for Child Porn access to more minors. That sounds good.
 
sfsuphysics said:
Also I do question the legality of what they're doing here too. It really reeks of entrapment on some level.
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Hard to see how it's entrapment. These "girls" made it known that they were underage to their "dates". I don't see how anyone other than a pedophile would ever go to the house of girl he thought was underage and alone to even meet her let alone do other things.
 
sfsuphysics said:
Also I do question the legality of what they're doing here too. It really reeks of entrapment on some level.
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I understand that complaint, especially when the person pretending to be underage pushes and pushes the "adult" into any kind of participation which may not even include sex. Those cases need very careful scrutiny, but few people can afford to defend against the charges. There was a recent case where an overzealous police department was trolling adult personals and pushing those people into pedophilia cases. That's not very helpful if the goal is to catch predatory pedos, which isn't necessarily the department's primary goal.

But for most of the rest, it's an easy barrel to fish for pedos. It's pretty clear that they are enthusiastic participants fully intent on committing statutory rape.
 
Lots and lots of these guys had their convictions over turned over the years due to legalities. Arrest these sick fuckers but do so legally.

I also heard a story years ago from a guy that knew it was a police sting and decided he wanted Chris Hansen's autograph. So he played around with them using very careful language only to get arrested. After the police arrested him and submitted their case to the DA for prosecution, the DA said not only no, but you guys just opened us to the possibility of getting sued. I never knew what happened to that case. This was back like 2007 or so.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought this show ended because, in the end, they were getting more in the way of law enforcement than helping, considering it was mainly geared to sensationalism and profit. Plus they were working with people who, themselves, had a skeezy history.

How is bringing it back a good idea for anybody but those making a profit on this tripe?
 
heatlesssun said:
Hard to see how it's entrapment. These "girls" made it known that they were underage to their "dates". I don't see how anyone other than a pedophile would ever go to the house of girl he thought was underage and alone to even meet her let alone do other things.
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Dude, most of the "girls" were just lying about being underage (and some of them were hot!); I would totally want to go on a date with a 25 year old pretending to be 15!
 
toast0 said:
Dude, most of the "girls" were just lying about being underage (and some of them were hot!); I would totally want to go on a date with a 25 year old pretending to be 15!
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Of course they were lying. I was just saying what kind of a grown man goes over to the house of girl by himself that he's thinking is underage and alone? No man that a father would want around his underage daughter I'd think.
 
Actually the reason it was taken off the air was because people caught via the "Catch a predator" show were repeatedly committing suicide and all the lawsuits was getting super expensive for the TV networks.

Seems there is this little thing called "Greed" and when police catch predators and exposes them to friends, family etc its ok, but when TV networks do it alongside the police, well there's money to be made!
 
sfsuphysics said:
Definitely some ha-ha moments, but a bit scary if you think about how many instances like this go by without it being a sting.

Also I do question the legality of what they're doing here too. It really reeks of entrapment on some level.
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I find it extremely hard to believe that most of the guys they catch ever would have been an offender in reality.

The last guy I watched he was clearly borderline retarded, as in not stupid but medically diagnosed, and even told the supposed girl that he had erectile dysfunction and sent a picture of how hideous he was. No hot teen girl would ever be like, "I don't care, come pound my poon!"

So its creating a crime where none would have existed.
 
To Catch a Predator, staring Chris Hansen ... brought to you by Mike's Hard Lemonade. Cold, Hard, Refreshing. Make it Mike's.
 
pxc said:
I understand that complaint, especially when the person pretending to be underage pushes and pushes the "adult" into any kind of participation which may not even include sex. Those cases need very careful scrutiny, but few people can afford to defend against the charges. There was a recent case where an overzealous police department was trolling adult personals and pushing those people into pedophilia cases. That's not very helpful if the goal is to catch predatory pedos, which isn't necessarily the department's primary goal.

But for most of the rest, it's an easy barrel to fish for pedos. It's pretty clear that they are enthusiastic participants fully intent on committing statutory rape.
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That's the thing, granted I'll admit I never watched the show that much, it had it's moments but after a while it showed a rather sick side of society. But most of the people I recall watching, didn't seem like predators, more like scavengers, those people so desperate for sex (in most cases very obviously why) they'd even try youngsters too.

Granted we will never know how the initial "chat" starts, if they're lured into the trap, or if they absolutely start on the prowl for minors. But in most all the cases I've seen it doesn't seem like they're predators, they're just desperate people.

So the question is, if you have outside stalls with fruits, breads, etc, at a market, and you set it up right next to a known homeless encampment for the sole purpose of catching shoplifters. You're fishing after desperate people, not the professional shoplifters. Is that really doing any good?

Besides what's to say they don't have a knee jerk defense of "where's the minor? Oh she's over 18? yeah I figured she was, and we were just role playing with the whole young thing". If a cop sells you a baggy of oregano, but tells you it's weed, is that going to stand up in court?
 
Ah, the lols where people go to save the kids and wind up getting arrested. Some of the cases are clear cut, others not so much.
 
I've never heard of this show before (and I watched season 4 of Arrested Developmet) but is this guy suppose to look like a pedo creeper? Because he totally does:

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This show captures really lonely and sad guys and it's not like the force the girls to do anything. It doesn't capture the real predators
 
Jospeh said:
This show captures really lonely and sad guys and it's not like the force the girls to do anything. It doesn't capture the real predators
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I'm pretty sure that showing up at a known underage girls house with the intention of having sex makes you a predator and a slime ball for that matter. It isn't like she was all "oh I'm 21 and just look 14".
 
heatlesssun said:
Hard to see how it's entrapment. These "girls" made it known that they were underage to their "dates". I don't see how anyone other than a pedophile would ever go to the house of girl he thought was underage and alone to even meet her let alone do other things.
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The decoy's are often the first ones to bring up sex. This is different than Perverted-Justice which waits until the offender brings it up. There's also the issue of conflict of interest since NBC pays for the sting.
 
I guess some people in this thread don't want to admit how horny most 15yo girls are, and the fact many of them have already had sex and/or are actively looking. Age of consent is a massive grey area that only exists because each state well...says so, no other reason. That also changes if both parties are of the same age if they are underage, which again makes no sense, sex is sex, so what does it matter if one is older by a given number of years?

Most shows like these don't show what is really going on, and they are all about viewers, I would put money on the fact there is ALLOT of pushing going on in these chats we never see, the power of editing, it's pretty crazy. Not to say there are not some psychos out there, I just don't think these shows do anyone any good.

*thinks back*

When I was 19ish, had a 14yo and I don't mean 14 that looks 20, I mean she REALLY looked 14 (I am guessing) grab my ass at the gas station, I didn't know WTF was going on, thinking it was a buddy fucking with me or something and when I see her and glance to the side as her mom rounds the corner and gives ME a look, all I could think was FML.
 
heatlesssun said:
Grown man going over to the house of a girl the thinks is underage and alone. That's the only way you ended up on this show I know of.
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Exactly..I don't give a crap how horny she is, I'm not knowingly going over to the house of an Admitted Minor asking for sex. There is no justifying it. She says "I'm 14 and I'm Good to go!" The law says if she isn't 18 you go to jail. This isn't a difficult decision to make.
 
BlueFireIce said:
I guess some people in this thread don't want to admit how horny most 15yo girls are, and the fact many of them have already had sex and/or are actively looking.
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All the more reason for a grown man to be NOWHERE NEAR a underage girl alone he doesn't know.
 
Wouldn't that make the girl just as much a predator than the guy, because we all know guys don't have that much self control to begin with, especially when tempted with a healthy sex-ready woman.
 
Youn said:
Wouldn't that make the girl just as much a predator than the guy, because we all know guys don't have that much self control to begin with, especially when tempted with a healthy sex-ready woman.
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The difference is one person is legally an adult and the other isn't.
 
Youn said:
Wouldn't that make the girl just as much a predator than the guy, because we all know guys don't have that much self control to begin with, especially when tempted with a healthy sex-ready woman.
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Guys don't have self control now? Damn it.
 
Youn said:
You mean Chris Hensen isn't an adult?
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I thought you were talking about the situation where a real teenage girl was on the prowl. She could be on the prowl all she wants the law says grown men can't touch it. Plain and simple. And the same would hold true in the case of a teenage boy and a grown woman. A woman in my area just got charged for sex with a teenage boy a couple of weeks ago.
 
This is just another reason why safe prostitution between adults (19+) should be legal across the nation. It gives an outlet for those people that can't get any the 'normal way'. And after all, you pay for pussy one way or the other no matter what. Usually with some nagging and balding. If you can have sex free of an upfront charge then there is no (legitimate) reason why you can't have sex for an upfront charge. The world is filled with settlers and reachers anyway. To pretend money isn't an influence for just sex is fucking absurd.

(Some) politicians use prostitutes all the time
Charlie Sheen uses porn stars all the time
I've seen normal females that just want guys to buy them cool shit afterwords to keep them on board.

It's all the same, pussy for something of value. We all damn well know women chase money anyway. :D

Lets get this youngsters out of the picture. Who's with me?

(bird chirping)
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Exactly..I don't give a crap how horny she is, I'm not knowingly going over to the house of an Admitted Minor asking for sex. There is no justifying it. She says "I'm 14 and I'm Good to go!" The law says if she isn't 18 you go to jail. This isn't a difficult decision to make.
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The law does not say that anywhere. it varies state to state and can change based on age separation, parental consent/marriage and what country you are from.

heatlesssun said:
The difference is one person is legally an adult and the other isn't.
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So we are only allowed to have sexual encounters with people 21 and over? Man...The porn industry is in trouble then!

Many states (In the US) age of consent is 16, some 17 and some 18, none of which are considered a legal adult. Also, age of consent changes from country to country, and even the USA use to have FAR lower ages, some states as young as 10. You have to remember we are not talking about legal adults, but sexual maturity, which comes on far sooner than most people want to admit.
 
BlueFireIce said:
Many states (In the US) age of consent is 16, some 17 and some 18, none of which are considered a legal adult. Also, age of consent changes from country to country, and even the USA use to have FAR lower ages, some states as young as 10. You have to remember we are not talking about legal adults, but sexual maturity, which comes on far sooner than most people want to admit.
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And we used to treat diseased by blood letting. Anyone that understands basic human biology understands that sexual maturity happens before mental maturity. That's the main reason why it's WRONG from adults to have sex with those who aren't as capable of making decisions, especially about something sex which can life altering implications after just one time.
 
heatlesssun said:
And we used to treat diseased by blood letting. Anyone that understands basic human biology understands that sexual maturity happens before mental maturity. That's the main reason why it's WRONG from adults to have sex with those who aren't as capable of making decisions, especially about something sex which can life altering implications after just one time.
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Then why are some states 16, others 18? Why again in those same states if the parents ok it, everything is cool, or if you are married to a 12yo in that same state that age of consent is 18, you are now legal and can bang the shit out of her all you like? Why is it that if you are a person from out of the country (depending on where you are from) you might be able to have sex with a 12-13yo....What has changed if it is really all about mental maturity? This also happens at different times for each person, and some people never.
 
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...and of course this does not apply to folk who make the laws... we all know the majority of them are messed up beyond any doubt
 
Germanium said:
This is just another reason why safe prostitution between adults (19+) should be legal across the nation. It gives an outlet for those people that can't get any the 'normal way'. And after all, you pay for pussy one way or the other no matter what. Usually with some nagging and balding. If you can have sex free of an upfront charge then there is no (legitimate) reason why you can't have sex for an upfront charge. The world is filled with settlers and reachers anyway. To pretend money isn't an influence for just sex is fucking absurd.

(Some) politicians use prostitutes all the time
Charlie Sheen uses porn stars all the time
I've seen normal females that just want guys to buy them cool shit afterwords to keep them on board.

It's all the same, pussy for something of value. We all damn well know women chase money anyway. :D

Lets get this youngsters out of the picture. Who's with me?

(bird chirping)
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Marriage is nothing more than legalized prostitution anyhow.

BlueFireIce said:
The law does not say that anywhere. it varies state to state and can change based on age separation, parental consent/marriage and what country you are from.



So we are only allowed to have sexual encounters with people 21 and over? Man...The porn industry is in trouble then!

Many states (In the US) age of consent is 16, some 17 and some 18, none of which are considered a legal adult. Also, age of consent changes from country to country, and even the USA use to have FAR lower ages, some states as young as 10. You have to remember we are not talking about legal adults, but sexual maturity, which comes on far sooner than most people want to admit.
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Man are you out of touch with laws..First the law in most states that sex with a minor is illegal. While some do have Age of consent laws that allow some flexibility, the general rule is 18+ or no touch if you are a legal adult. Also where did you get this 21 bullshit? That is legal drinking age, 18 is legal adult everywhere. That is also the age you can enlist in the military without requiring a parent or guardian to sign for you.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Man are you out of touch with laws..First the law in most states that sex with a minor is illegal. While some do have Age of consent laws that allow some flexibility, the general rule is 18+ or no touch if you are a legal adult. Also where did you get this 21 bullshit? That is legal drinking age, 18 is legal adult everywhere. That is also the age you can enlist in the military without requiring a parent or guardian to sign for you.
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Age of consent is 16 in a lot of states. The law does not mean 18+ or no touch. Also in several European countries it is 14. The age of consent at 18 is something that is a very new concept.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Man are you out of touch with laws..First the law in most states that sex with a minor is illegal. While some do have Age of consent laws that allow some flexibility, the general rule is 18+ or no touch if you are a legal adult. Also where did you get this 21 bullshit? That is legal drinking age, 18 is legal adult everywhere. That is also the age you can enlist in the military without requiring a parent or guardian to sign for you.
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Out of touch? Umm...No. Age of minor, is often times the age of majority, which is not the same as age of consent, age to drink, smoke, vote etc etc. Age of majority also changes from state to state, some most states it is 18, others it is 19, others 21, but to be legal across the board, the age is 21. Age of majority just means you have legal control (from your parents etc) by law, however many things are still restricted until 21. So again, not a clear cut age.

As for the minor is illegal, more states have a age of consent (all states do, not just some like you suggest) of 16 than those of 18 (31 are 16yo and only 12 are 18yo).
 
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