Silk Road Forum Moderator Faces Life In Prison

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Can you imagine getting life in prison and having to tell other inmates you are a convicted forum mod?

"The forum moderators were responsible for, among other things, monitoring user activity on discussion forums associated with the site, providing guidance to forum users concerning how to conduct business on Silk Road, and reporting any significant problems discussed on the forms to site administrators and to Ulbricht," according to court documents.
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Just sentence for someone who obviously raped and murdered people.....oh..wait..he was a forum mod on a salary of less then 75k for 10 months?

fucking unbelievable..and there are still people who argue that our justice system isn't completely broken.
 
He should have conducted his business through HSBC like all the other drug dealers.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Just sentence for someone who obviously raped and murdered people.....oh..wait..he was a forum mod on a salary of less then 75k for 10 months?

fucking unbelievable..and there are still people who argue that our justice system isn't completely broken.
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This is all an attempt at intimidating the larger market.

The entire point is to destroy a few lives very publicly.

It hasn't worked. The cat is out of the bag.
 
Nice to know I can get less time in prison for driving drunk and killing a family on their way home from church.

Nice to know I could go out, pick a random girl, rape her, beat her, and ruin her life... and get much much less time.

Our justice system is fucked.
 
Forum mod? That's all he did, and he's being fuck like that?

Some people can't stand others challenging their control. Killing someone isn't making them lose control. Being a forum mod isn't, either, but the whole Silk Road thing kind of did. They couldn't control it, so they are really sticking it to them. I think that's where a lot of the Internet Network Neutrality fight is coming from. Internet is huge, and they can't control it.
 
silk186 said:
at least he didn't steal mp3s
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That woulda been better, he'd just pay a fine. A REDICULOUS fine, but he wouldn't be prison bitch to Bubba.

Being in charge of regulating discussions about how to and the sale of: drugs, theft, murder, money laundering, etc should make one wonder "Could this be morally wrong?"
 
Star Control said:
So don't join the NSA, FBI, CIA, Police Dept or any branch of the Government.
Don't join any big business, church or really any organization on the planet.
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Our "justice" system in all its glory.

There was a recent local homicide case where two guys were on a bus coming from a casino in the mountains. They get into an altercation on the bus and after they're let off, one guy beats the other to death in the parking lot. He pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced to 2-6 years.
 
Moderated an online forum regarding the sale of goods between consenting adults? Go to jail for life.

Beat up and rape a woman, go to jail for 6 years.

Steal almost $200,000 of government property and your last name is Clinton, be given a multitude of years to pay a portion of it (not all) back, and don't go to jail. Have your wife then run for president soon.

Makes sense.
 
Ducman69 said:
Moderated an online forum regarding the sale of goods between consenting adults? Go to jail for life.

Beat up and rape a woman, go to jail for 6 years.

Steal almost $200,000 of government property and your last name is Clinton, be given a multitude of years to pay a portion of it (not all) back, and don't go to jail. Have your wife then run for president soon.

Makes sense.
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Welcome to 1984 United States of America!

Please grab a chocolate chip breakfast corn dog and enjoy your stay!
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Ducman69 said:
Moderated an online forum regarding the sale of goods between consenting adults? Go to jail for life.
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From the article: "conspiracy to commit narcotics trafficking and money laundering"

Selling illegal goods between consenting adults is still illegal, and assisting someone else to break the law makes him complicit. Yeah, there's worse people out there doing worse things, but it's not a contest of who's worse than who. He committed a crime and got caught, and he'll be brought to trial or - more likely - be given a plea deal if he squeals on the higher ups. That's usually what happens in this sort of case. They threaten with maximum sentences so you'll deal so they can go after the bigger fish.

As for the whole "it's only drugs" attitude - which is what I'm sure you really meant by consenting adults - I doubt you'd feel the same way if it was human trafficking or illegal weapons, but hey, fuck the police, amIright? :rolleyes:
 
Phoenix333 said:
Selling illegal goods between consenting adults is still illegal, and assisting someone else to break the law makes him complicit. Yeah, there's worse people out there doing worse things, but it's not a contest of who's worse than who.
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Of course it matters, as the punishment has to fit the crime. The more harm it causes a victim/victims and/or the more malicious the offense, the greater the punishment should be.
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As for the whole "it's only drugs" attitude - which is what I'm sure you really meant by consenting adults - I doubt you'd feel the same way if it was human trafficking or illegal weapons, but hey, fuck the police, amIright? :rolleyes:
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Human trafficking probably doesn't involve consenting adults by its very nature, right? Common sense here. Illegal weapons are generally used to hurt a third party again.

I have never been attacked by drugs. I never walked down the street and had someone hold me down and make me smoke weed. Literally never happened. I have had someone attack me at a gas station that I almost shot, has stuff stolen out of my hotel room, and been pickpocketed, but personally I've never had someone force me to take expensive drugs for free. So, personally, sure its fine to keep the hard drugs illegal I don't really care, but such a minor contribution should receive a minor punishment IMO.

I don't see the hypocrisy in that.
 
Phoenix333 said:
As for the whole "it's only drugs" attitude - which is what I'm sure you really meant by consenting adults - I doubt you'd feel the same way if it was human trafficking or illegal weapons, but hey, fuck the police, amIright? :rolleyes:
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Human trafficking by definition can't exclusively involve consenting adults.

I doubt you'd feel the same way if it was Bibles or medicine.

Both of which were sold on the Silk Road.
 
This explains why that special place in GM was shut down....Well Steve, it was nice knowing you!
 
I'm in agreement that the crime should fit the punishment but what was all on the blackmarket? If you worked for the mob and "just handled money and phone calls" yet were "helping make payments" for hits, abductions, selling off kids, drugs etc how are you not involved.

If your a part of the crime ring, then you should match the crime to the person. So if he was helping to extort children > max penalty for that. If he was just dealing H > max penalty for that etc.
 
Ducman69 said:
Moderated an online forum regarding the sale of goods between consenting adults? Go to jail for life.

Beat up and rape a woman, go to jail for 6 years.

Steal almost $200,000 of government property and your last name is Clinton, be given a multitude of years to pay a portion of it (not all) back, and don't go to jail. Have your wife then run for president soon.

Makes sense.
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You forgot one:

Start wars in the Middle East for no reason other than to make money on oil, and make money for the military industrial complex, while costing US citizens trillions of dollars, don't pay anything, don't go to jail.
 
DocSavage said:
You forgot one:

Start wars in the Middle East for no reason other than to make money on oil, and make money for the military industrial complex, while costing US citizens trillions of dollars, don't pay anything, don't go to jail.
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You shouldn't talk bad about Obama like that. Might make some people angry.
 
I figured the apologists for illegal drugs would throw their usual rationalizations while completely ignoring the fact that people on drugs can and do hurt other people. Case in point? Alcohol is a LEGAL drug. A significant number of motor vehicle injuries and fatalities involve alcohol intoxication. That doesn't matter though. All you dopeheads ever want is to be able to get your high and damn the consequences. I wouldn't care if the only people you hurt in the process was yourselves. It's those non-consenting adults that get hurt for your habit that pay the price. I have a friend that nearly lost his life and will never walk right again because of a doped up driver, so you can take your drugs and go fuck your collective selves with them.
 
I dont drink.
I don't smoke.
I don't do drugs.

I pay taxes. I'm tired of paying for the war on drugs, and coercive markets.

Continue on with your infallible logic, locking webmasters up for life because drunk drivers kill people.
 
Phoenix333 said:
I figured the apologists for illegal drugs would throw their usual rationalizations while completely ignoring the fact that people on drugs can and do hurt other people.
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You're a joke. People hurt people on nothing at all and have been for hundreds of thousands of years. Get a grip on reality.

Case in point? Alcohol is a LEGAL drug. A significant number of motor vehicle injuries and fatalities involve alcohol intoxication. That doesn't matter though. All you dopeheads ever want is to be able to get your high and damn the consequences. I wouldn't care if the only people you hurt in the process was yourselves. It's those non-consenting adults that get hurt for your habit that pay the price. I have a friend that nearly lost his life and will never walk right again because of a doped up driver, so you can take your drugs and go fuck your collective selves with them
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I have people that died from cancer, lets set the world on fire to rid the world of cancer..... :rolleyes:

I wouldn't doubt it one bit that you also know someone that got the shit beat out of him by someone sober and on no drugs, the way you come off.
 
Phoenix333 said:
I figured the apologists for illegal drugs would throw their usual rationalizations while completely ignoring the fact that people on drugs can and do hurt other people. Case in point? Alcohol is a LEGAL drug. A significant number of motor vehicle injuries and fatalities involve alcohol intoxication. That doesn't matter though. All you dopeheads ever want is to be able to get your high and damn the consequences. I wouldn't care if the only people you hurt in the process was yourselves. It's those non-consenting adults that get hurt for your habit that pay the price. I have a friend that nearly lost his life and will never walk right again because of a doped up driver, so you can take your drugs and go fuck your collective selves with them.
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Ah yes, punish many for the mistakes of a few point of view. My favorite argument. And since you are obviously against it, your opinions and examples are heavily biased. Yes, you can legally drink alcohol, go drive and kill someone. You can also drive like an asshat and kill someone without the alcohol, so I guess we should ban cars right? Because people if we don't, we are ignoring the fact that people driving vehicles can and do hurt other people.....

Case in point? Look at countries that don't have our bullshit laws banning everything.. Most of it was banned due to lobbying by people with something to gain, not to save teh peeplez. Ever read how marijuana was classified as a schedule 1 and banned? It definitely wasn't because hemp posed a serious threat the cotton industry.....
 
aardvark sandwich said:
I dont drink.
I don't smoke.
I don't do drugs.

I pay taxes. I'm tired of paying for the war on drugs, and coercive markets.
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You really think the government isn't going to find a way to spend your tax money anyway? Legalize drugs, and someone's going to have to pay for all the junkies that can't and won't work because they're too doped up to do any good. Guess who that will be? You.

Continue on with your infallible logic, locking webmasters up for life because drunk drivers kill people.
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I'm not the one that wrote the law. If you don't like it then lobby to change it - otherwise live with it. If not, well, until it's changed it's your choice if you want to be a criminal or not. I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head and telling them what to do. That's the government's job.

Pure-Platinum-190 said:
You're a joke. People hurt people on nothing at all and have been for hundreds of thousands of years. Get a grip on reality.
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Oh I do have a grip on reality. I have no illusions about human nature. If humans were actually responsible for their behavior there would be no problems in the world, but they're not, and there are. Where logic flies out the window is taking your statement and then somehow assuming people will be responsible when it comes to drug use, especially the addictive kind. Yeah, just legalize it because people are so responsible. Might as well legalize explosives with that logic.
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I have people that died from cancer, lets set the world on fire to rid the world of cancer.....
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Nobody asks for cancer. People seem to want drugs.

I wouldn't doubt it one bit that you also know someone that got the shit beat out of him by someone sober and on no drugs, the way you come off.
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Are you offering yourself as a volunteer? It's too bad that I'm forbidden to harm humans, or I would offer you some flying lessons and let you figure out how to land on your own.

Pure-Platinum-190 said:
A significant number of motor vehicle accidents occur from texting while driving, ban phones.
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Texting while driving is banned in many places, but people are irresponsible with phones so I guess they'll be that much more responsible with drugs.

Biznatch said:
Ah yes, punish many for the mistakes of a few point of view.
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Yes, let's punish the majority of society because there's a vocal minority of dopeheads that just want their high, so let's legalize everything and damn the consequences.

But don't worry. I'm sure you'll all get your way eventually. Nobody listens to me anyways. The majority is rapidly becoming the minority and legalization will happen sooner or later. Then you can do all the drugs you want, and live happy knowing that nobody is trampling on your sacred right to be a junky and flush your life completely down the toilet. Then, to all you people that don't do drugs but support legalization based on philisophical grounds - when you have a family member or friend or even yourself end up in the hospital or morgue because some dope head on what is now a legal drug wrecks them, don't come crying about the consequences of the situation that you created. Maybe you'll remember what I said, but it'll be too late then.

tl;dr: Go do what the fuck you want and to hell with the consequences. Sorry for actually giving a damn about people. I'll try to be more apathetic in the future.
 
But you don't care about people. You only care about behavior.

You have an authoritarian streak that betrays your own values.
 
Phoenix333 said:
Nobody asks for cancer. People seem to want drugs.
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However people with cancer beg for drugs. Some people in pain (without cancer) want some drugs. Some people in no pain should get drugs if they want them. People like you should mind your own fucking business and stop thinking everyone that does some drugs is a junkie ONLY because you wish them to be. There are tens of millions of people in the world doing drugs and harming NO ONE. There is also people in this world on NO drugs harming people every chance they get. Maybe we should ban people. :rolleyes:

Phoenix333 said:
Oh I do have a grip on reality. I have no illusions about human nature. If humans were actually responsible for their behavior there would be no problems in the world, but they're not, and there are.
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So humans aren't responsible, except you, got it.

Where logic flies out the window is taking your statement and then somehow assuming people will be responsible when it comes to drug use, especially the addictive kind. Yeah, just legalize it because people are so responsible. Might as well legalize explosives with that logic.
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So explosives equal drugs in your world, got it...smh. Yeah, I see your grip on reality, it's surely tight!

Are you offering yourself as a volunteer? It's too bad that I'm forbidden to harm humans, or I would offer you some flying lessons and let you figure out how to land on your own.
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I'm sure your mother is available, willing, ask her. Forbidden to harm humans...lol. I'm forbidden from eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. /s

Texting while driving is banned in many places, but people are irresponsible with phones so I guess they'll be that much more responsible with drugs.
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So why the fuck aren't you advocating the banning of phones like you are with drugs since some people can never do the right thing? Drugs or no drugs, a percentage of the population will always do the wrong thing. Lets just ban people.

Yes, let's punish the majority of society...
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You're the one wanting to punish the majority of society for the actions of few, not him....lol. :rolleyes:

Your grip is tight alright, on your keyboard, not on reality.


But don't worry. I'm sure you'll all get your way eventually. Nobody listens to me anyways.
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With views like yours, I know why.

The majority is rapidly becoming the minority and legalization will happen sooner or later. Then you can do all the drugs you want, and live happy knowing that nobody is trampling on your sacred right to be a junky and flush your life completely down the toilet.
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People flush their lives down the toilet with fast food, lack of exercise, texting while driving, etc. Again, we need to rally to ban people. Those texting and fast food junkies!!!!


Then, to all you people that don't do drugs but support legalization based on philisophical grounds - when you have a family member or friend or even yourself end up in the hospital or morgue because some dope head on what is now a legal drug wrecks them, don't come crying about the consequences of the situation that you created. Maybe you'll remember what I said, but it'll be too late then.
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What about the people that end up this way from someone just not paying attention while driving (on no drugs)? Should they remember what you said then? Should we ban old people from driving while we're at it? I ask, because one drove through my yard into my front porch some years back. He wasn't on drugs, just old. I think we should ban humans, it's the only way.

tl;dr: Go do what the fuck you want and to hell with the consequences. Sorry for actually giving a damn about people. I'll try to be more apathetic in the future.
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You don't care about people, you care about what you care about. You don't like them so everybody else should hate them, too. Obama doesn't care what you think, your President.



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By the way, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both did LSD in college (Along with many other powerful people). Also, LSD is pretty fucking illegal and pretty fucking safe.

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