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Corsair H105 240mm Extreme Perf. AIO CPU Cooler Review - For those of you wanting a double fan radiator for your CPU cooling needs, Corsair has its Hydro Series™ H105 240mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler. This new H105 cooler does not sit at the top of the Corsair Hydro Series, and therefore might save you a couple dollars, but we really want to know, how well does it cool you CPU?
 
Seems kinda silly to use this thing if it has no low fan speed, The 50.3 db(a) seems ridiculous and I feel the data at idle can be misrepresented if you just slam the fans to 100%... even with custom loops you just don't leave them full tilt unless you need to. Hope it comes with a great warranty.

Unless something was wrong with the graphs, why even show other coolers at (low) speed, just filling the charts?

H110i GT?
 
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That price graph you guys had was top notch. I love being able to see how wild retailers can get with pricing.
 
I ordered one of these Monday morning. It should arrive tonight. It will be joining my new build this weekend (Valentines Day may delay it getting done until sometime next week). After seeing the noise level at full speed, I suspect I'll be turning those fans down a notch or 2.
 
viper1152012 said:
Seems kinda silly to use this thing if it has no low fan speed, The 50.3 db(a) seems ridiculous and I feel the data at idle can be misrepresented if you just slam the fans to 100%... even with custom loops you just don't leave them full tilt unless you need to. Hope it comes with a great warranty.

Unless something was wrong with the graphs, why even show other coolers at (low) speed, just filling the charts?

H110i GT?
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It uses PWM fans and comes with a Y-adapter that is also PWM. Plug fans into CPU header so they aren't running 100% all the time and plug the pump into a regular fan header. Not sure why this wasn't reviewed that way. It's obnoxiously loud at 100% but there's not really any reason for it to ever run at 100%. I set my fan curve to run these at 30% until temp reaches 60C. It's silent at that speed and rarely do real-world (even gaming) workloads cause my CPU to go above 60C.
 
Nice review. All I thought when I saw that second chart with it's performance a the top of the pack was BOOM! Sick work by corsair on this one...

Some errors:
On the header:
how well does it cool you CPU?
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Should be "your"

On page 4-
knocked it out of the park and all the remains to be seen is what this bundle of joy will cost us.
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Should be "all THAT remains"
Not to be that guy, but there are some comma and stylistic grammar issues. If you need a volunteer editor, give me a call. ;)
 
Pefect timing for this review. This watercooler is on my list of components for my new 2015 desktop. I am gald that it is quieter and
better at cooling than the H100i because that was the only other cooler that I was considering.
 
Well as far I'm concerned all AIO have the same problem. Tubing. Too short.

Would additional 3-5 cm on each hose hurt performance (or price?) so badly?!

Tried mount few (Corsair included) in server case from Lian Li D-8000. Good luck, considering the space. In the end dumped everything and built simple custom loop because with AIO always something was in the way.

And as for fans. Just dump all included and buy Noctuas or Noise Blockers straight away. Why manufacturers add such rubbish fans in the first place is beyond me. It's not like AIO kit is cheap.
 
Would be interesting to see these new Corsair systems compared to the original H50 to see how far they have moved on.
 
Hakuren said:
And as for fans. Just dump all included and buy Noctuas or Noise Blockers straight away. Why manufacturers add such rubbish fans in the first place is beyond me. It's not like AIO kit is cheap.
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We've tried selling them without fans in the past, H70 Core. It didn't sell that much, because of the fact that it didn't come with fans. Those stock fans are probably not the best in terms of performance/noise ratio, but removing them from the AIO cooler package doesn't really benefit the consumers, it will only save them $10-$15 from retail price. We've learned over the years that the majority would prefer to have some decent fans to be included and pay the extra $10 to get them started rather than not to have fans at all. And its not like they are stuck with it, third party fans are always an option, if they decided not to use the stock.
 
Joseph_Ocbina said:
We've tried selling them without fans in the past, H70 Core. It didn't sell that much, because of the fact that it didn't come with fans. Those stock fans are probably not the best in terms of performance/noise ratio, but removing them from the AIO cooler package doesn't really benefit the consumers, it will only save them $10-$15 from retail price. We've learned over the years that the majority would prefer to have some decent fans to be included and pay the extra $10 to get them started rather than not to have fans at all. And its not like they are stuck with it, third party fans are always an option, if they decided not to use the stock.
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So as most of these kits would be sold to enthusiasts that will change the fans...why not charge $25 extra and put in better fans that they would use?

Sell a kit with Noctua or whatever fan/fans are flavour of the month included?
 
Yeah, it manages to be 0.5c cooler sounding twice as loud.
And 0.5c is well within any reasonable margin of error.
So no, it did not beat all the others. It only performs similar to the others.

Temperatures

Ambient temperature will be kept at 25C for the duration of the tests and measured with a MicroTemp EXP non-contact infrared thermometer and cross referenced with the Sperry Digital 4 Point thermometer. Any variance greater then 0.2C will halt the testing until temperatures return within spec for fifteen minutes.
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Where is this ambient temperature being monitored?
Is it the actual air temperature going into each cooler during the load test?
Or is it the temperature of the air somewhere else?
 
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Modred189 said:
Why would Corsair, purveyors of perfectly capable fans, sell someone else's fans?
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Erm maybe because everyone here seems to recommend one or two other brands to use than Corsairs?

Instead of their fans ending up in the spares box, just sell the fans users actually want.
 
daglesj said:
Erm maybe because everyone here seems to recommend one or two other brands to use than Corsairs?

Instead of their fans ending up in the spares box, just sell the fans users actually want.
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Your lack of ability to comprehend how a business works is astounding.

It would be like Ford selling their Mustangs with a Corvette engine.
 
Tsumi said:
Your lack of ability to comprehend how a business works is astounding.

It would be like Ford selling their Mustangs with a Corvette engine.
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Really so no manufacturer...ever has sold a product they make, with parts or accessories from another company that improves the product?

Really how amazing is that?

Ford and other car companies have often sold cars with engines made by other companies. It's common practice. Often high end cars will have stereo units made by Clarion or even Linn because their own units are not good enough.

Like Acer laptops with Sony bluray drives in them? I don't think it's my lack of ability in manufacturing thats at fault, I think it's your lack of imagination.

Corsair can sell their fans with entry level kit but would do better to bundle in higher spec fans from more favoured manufacturers for their high end kit. If the current fans are being dumped then why not?

Does Corsair even make those fans they bundle? Probably not.
 
daglesj said:
Really so no manufacturer...ever has sold a product they make, with parts or accessories from another company that improves the product?

Really how amazing is that?

Ford and other car companies have often sold cars with engines made by other companies. It's common practice. Often high end cars will have stereo units made by Clarion or even Linn because their own units are not good enough.

Like Acer laptops with Sony bluray drives in them? I don't think it's my lack of ability in manufacturing thats at fault, I think it's your lack of imagination.

Corsair can sell their fans with entry level kit but would do better to bundle in higher spec fans from more favoured manufacturers for their high end kit. If the current fans are being dumped then why not?

Does Corsair even make those fans they bundle? Probably not.
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/megafacepalm

You mean like the Chrysler Crossfire that has a Mercedes engine... oh wait. Chrysler and Mercedes were one during that period, and the Crossfire had a Mercedes platform. Or the Pontiac GTO with the LS6... GM owns Pontiac.

I didn't know Acer made and sold Blu-ray drives. A google search shows me nothing. Care to point out where I can find an Acer Blu-ray drive?

Ford doesn't make stereo units. They contract out to other companies to make them proprietary designs. Auto makers don't make speakers either, they purchase them from audio companies.

Corsair designed and manufactures those fans. Sure, they probably contract out to someone else to manufacture it, but it was designed and sold by Corsair.
 
I have the H105. i7 4790K @ 4.7Ghz 55 degrees C at load, 23 at idle. Running the 2 included fans, but wanting to do a full push/pull setup
 
Tsumi said:
/megafacepalm

You mean like the Chrysler Crossfire that has a Mercedes engine... oh wait. Chrysler and Mercedes were one during that period, and the Crossfire had a Mercedes platform. Or the Pontiac GTO with the LS6... GM owns Pontiac.

I didn't know Acer made and sold Blu-ray drives. A google search shows me nothing. Care to point out where I can find an Acer Blu-ray drive?

Ford doesn't make stereo units. They contract out to other companies to make them proprietary designs. Auto makers don't make speakers either, they purchase them from audio companies.

Corsair designed and manufactures those fans. Sure, they probably contract out to someone else to manufacture it, but it was designed and sold by Corsair.
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Erm once again you have got confused at my initial point.

You stated why would a manufacturer sell a product with parts made by another manufacturer.

I stated this happens all the time.

Acer/Lenovo etc. all sell laptops etc. with optical drives made by other companies...oh ram and HDDs too!

As I stated car manufacturers sell cars with engines made by others too. I had a Ford with a Yamaha designed and built engine. I had a Volvo with a Renault engine.

There is no reason why Corsair couldn't sell their coolers with fans made by another company. Corsair by now is mainly just a name brand anyway.

Very few companies design build and sell ALL their own products.

So to recap I state that Manufacturer A should use parts by Manufacturer B to make a all round superior product.

In your post you state manufacturer A should only use and sell parts they make and then in the next you back up my point that they use others.

Is it -

A. Manufacturer A should use parts by Manufacturer B to improve their product. (my point)

or

B. Manufacturer A should only use parts they make at the cost of performance they could get using other parts from Manufacturer B. (yours in effect)


Have a think and let us know which you want to decide on.
 
@ daglesj
I don't see what you do in his reply.
Reply points out car companies using sister company products
Corsair do fans and make money selling them .. consequently do not put competitors fan on their product to sell and loose money from their own fan sales while competitor makes money.

Corsair wants to make money, pure and simple. They do care a little about how well their product performs, but care way more about how well product sells. Their Hydro cooler line has sold exceptionally well because of their aggressive marketing and advertising hype, not because it is a better product .. and good scientific testing procedures prove it.
 
daglesj said:
Erm once again you have got confused at my initial point.

You stated why would a manufacturer sell a product with parts made by another manufacturer.

I stated this happens all the time.

Acer/Lenovo etc. all sell laptops etc. with optical drives made by other companies...oh ram and HDDs too!

As I stated car manufacturers sell cars with engines made by others too. I had a Ford with a Yamaha designed and built engine. I had a Volvo with a Renault engine.

There is no reason why Corsair couldn't sell their coolers with fans made by another company. Corsair by now is mainly just a name brand anyway.

Very few companies design build and sell ALL their own products.

So to recap I state that Manufacturer A should use parts by Manufacturer B to make a all round superior product.

In your post you state manufacturer A should only use and sell parts they make and then in the next you back up my point that they use others.

Is it -

A. Manufacturer A should use parts by Manufacturer B to improve their product. (my point)

or

B. Manufacturer A should only use parts they make at the cost of performance they could get using other parts from Manufacturer B. (yours in effect)


Have a think and let us know which you want to decide on.
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Ford co-designed that engine with Yamaha. And it is used exclusively on Ford vehicles, you will not find Yamaha vehicles with them. Renault had a 20% share in Volvo, giving them substantial influence in Volvo.

Does Corsair have a manufacturing and designing contract with Noctua? I think not.

Sorry, but you never answered my question, so I'll answer it for you. Does Lenovo and Acer manufacture optical drives? NO THEY DO NOT.

Edit: To add, Ford does not make motorcycles, and Yamaha does not make cars. They are not in direct competition with each other. That's another big difference.
 
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daglesj said:
So as most of these kits would be sold to enthusiasts that will change the fans...why not charge $25 extra and put in better fans that they would use?

Sell a kit with Noctua or whatever fan/fans are flavour of the month included?
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Actually, the H105 is intended for both new comers in the industry and enthusiast alike, so raising the price will limit us from reaching to other consumers who have been using air coolers and wants to take a shot at AIO liquid coolers. Plus, increasing the MSRP will remove us from the competition in that market segment, leaving us in a price point where the cooler is no longer practical and ultimately, rendering the whole strategy counterproductive. We want to be competitive and reasonable at the same time, keeping the price tight while maintaining an acceptable performance output would be the way to stay in that course.

And yea, selling our coolers with competitor fans - not gonna happen. Those guys above have pretty much broke down the details already.
 
Okay well carry on making fans that go in the spares box then.

I have a few Corsair fans in mine, would you like them back?
 
LOL. You really think they care what you do with the fans after you BUY them?

They just laugh at you .. all the way to the bank. :D
 
Sure, they'll take them back, as long as you pay for the shipping back and expect nothing in return.
 
The fans are way to loud... I replacement them with some nice quite high output fans and it runs just as well.

In fact I rather it come without fans.

It really is a great cooler outside of the noisy fans.
 
Probleminfected said:
The fans are way to loud... I replacement them with some nice quite high output fans and it runs just as well.

In fact I rather it come without fans.

It really is a great cooler outside of the noisy fans.
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A cooler that needs additional fans is a niche product in a semi-niche market. A product for 5% of buyers isn't worth making, especially when those same 5% will buy a slightly more expensive product that has significantly more buyers. Business economics. Something consumers are sadly too often completely ignorant about.
 
I like my H105 just fine. I'm actually using some fans that came with my old Prodigy case. Temps never go much above 55 max while gaming. Mid-high 20's at idle.
 
melk said:
I like my H105 just fine. I'm actually using some fans that came with my old Prodigy case. Temps never go much above 55 max while gaming. Mid-high 20's at idle.
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Fire up Prime v28 Small FFT's and IBT, gaming has so much variance.
 
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