390X coming soon few weeks

The Mac said:
My point is i dont give a damn if its 400watts TDP if it beats the 980.

$19 a year in extra power means absolutly nothing to me.

TDP is irelevent, only performance
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I am with this man. Also I hope everyone realizes the competitor GM200 will likely have a similar TDP. Maybe 250 instead of 300. I don't think comparing this card to the 980's TDP is fair...

Edit: n=1 actually beat me to this. I missed it.
 
The Mac said:
nope, $15 a year difference between the 980 and 290x for me.

i said $19 because my electricity is cheaper than opther parts of the US.

i game 2hrs a day x 7 days x 135 watt difference x 52 weeks /1000 watts per per kwhr x 0.15 per kwhr = $14.74
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Well if you game / watch blu ray etc. for 3-4 hours a day in the UK it is a lot more than that unfortunately :( Oh well if it has the speed then it is worth the TDP, but for example the 290 vs 970 it isn't (except for the 3.5gb nvidia scam and the price of gsync)... Give me 30% more performance than 980, freesync and priced at 980 or lower prices and I don't care about 300w TDP either!
 
Dayaks said:
I am with this man. Also I hope everyone realizes the competitor GM200 will likely have a similar TDP. Maybe 250 instead of 300. I don't think comparing this card to the 980's TDP is fair...
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Architecture makes no difference... all that matters to the consumer is how fast it is vs how much £££/power/heat/noise
 
i would say that all that matters is how fast it is and how much it is, all that other junk is superfluous.
 
Nicholars said:
Architecture makes no difference... all that matters to the consumer is how fast it is vs how much £££/power/heat/noise
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Just saying when AMD's card with 300W launches it will very likely be about the same (maybe a little slower) performance as a 250W nVidia card. We should be comparing apples to apples.

Personally I am in the camp that doesn't care about power usage.
 
I'm looking to upgrade my SLI setup to a single powerful card. I skipped the nvidia 900 series to wait for AMD's offering, I do hope their new cards are more energy efficient. I might be tempted to purchase a 290x seeing the price drop on newegg, but from what i've read those cards use a lot of power.
 
dreamcast87 said:
I do hope their new cards are more energy efficient.
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Power efficiency is a premium feature. Like an added bonus.
It's not something AMD can afford. So unless it happens by accident, they're not going to make it happen.

AMD will never compete on power unless they magically fall into a huge pile of money.
 
I think the GM200 will probably be faster and less power but also a complete rip off price and add a gsync monitor to that and the AMD + freesync will (as usual) be the much better price / performance.

I want to go back to AMD because I am pissed off about my 0.5gb RAM I got scammed out of and also I want freesync (not paying £200 for gsync) so I hope the 380x is competitively priced to the 980. Need some more news and info on this card (and the monitors) I am bored of waiting for 1440p freesync!!!!
 
dreamcast87 said:
I'm looking to upgrade my SLI setup to a single powerful card. I skipped the nvidia 900 series to wait for AMD's offering, I do hope their new cards are more energy efficient. I might be tempted to purchase a 290x seeing the price drop on newegg, but from what i've read those cards use a lot of power.
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The 380x will definitely use more power than the 290x but also probably be at least 30% faster.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Power efficiency is a premium feature. Like an added bonus.
It's not something AMD can afford. So unless it happens by accident, they're not going to make it happen.

AMD will never compete on power unless they magically fall into a huge pile of money.
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Nicholars said:
The 380x will definitely use more power than the 290x but also probably be at least 30% faster.
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Thanks for responding, this is the PSU that i have now. I assume this isn't strong enough to power the 390x when it comes out but could it power a 290x. ( I don't overclock video cards only CPU)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071
 
If I recall, the Capstone series is made by Super Flower.
Anyway, 650W is enough to handle any single GPU configuration in existance.

Unless you're running 50 HDD's.
 
dreamcast87 said:
Thanks for responding, this is the PSU that i have now. I assume this isn't strong enough to power the 390x when it comes out but could it power a 290x. ( I don't overclock video cards only CPU)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071
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I use a 750 w, no issue OC a 290 and OC a cpu and I be fine for 380x also.
they often add more power recomendations than needed to make sure people dont run a 400w low budget brand and then it burns up for them.
 
It its a superflower 650w they can take more than 650w so depending what else you have in your PC it should be ok. I saw one review where they got a 750w superflower up to 1100w+ before the protection switched it off!
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
If I recall, the Capstone series is made by Super Flower.
Anyway, 650W is enough to handle any single GPU configuration in existance.

Unless you're running 50 HDD's.
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Nah just my SSD, one 250 2.5" as recovery for SSD and two 1TB hard drive one is for storage other is Steam/Origin game library.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
As long as the price and performance are good, power consumption can go out the window.
Although right now the 290 and 290X are complete failures compared to the 970 in pretty much every regard.

The 290X needs to be about $250 to be viable, they're still being sold for over $300. May as well just buy a 970 at that point.

Nvidia will have their chance to stomp the 380X later this year.
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How can you say this with a straight face? The 290 didn't fail at anything. The 290 was out for almost a year before the 970 existed. There are entirely too many people on this forum that let the name of the company blind them when it comes to comparisons.

Also, my 290 performs better than the 970 I bought then resold because I play on triple 1440 and the actual 4gb of memory is needed at that resolution.
 
veedubfreak said:
How can you say this with a straight face? The 290 didn't fail at anything. The 290 was out for almost a year before the 970 existed. There are entirely too many people on this forum that let the name of the company blind them when it comes to comparisons.
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It doesn't really matter how old it is, the only thing that matters is today's price.
If the 290X was something like $150 right now, I'd be praising it as the best deal in GPU history... But that's not the case, and it's over-priced.

The 290X and GTX 970 are the same price right now. There's no reason whatsoever to choose the 290X.

The 290 is in a much better spot, but it's still a solid $200 GPU and not a cent more.
 
veedubfreak said:
How can you say this with a straight face? The 290 didn't fail at anything. The 290 was out for almost a year before the 970 existed. There are entirely too many people on this forum that let the name of the company blind them when it comes to comparisons.

Also, my 290 performs better than the 970 I bought then resold because I play on triple 1440 and the actual 4gb of memory is needed at that resolution.
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I would have thought either the 290 or 970 would be terrible at triple 1440p on any new game, a 970 or 290 is only just about good enough for a single 1440p screen unless you only play old games.

TBH at current prices the 290 and 290x are probably the better cards to get vs a 970... I did not think this 3 months ago.... But 3 months ago I did not know that the 970 is actually 3.5gb and that freesync is going to cost a lot less than gsync... so at £220 for a 290 it is still a better card than a 970 at £290 as you get similar performance and actually get 4gb ram and don't have to pay £200 for adaptive sync.
 
One more ...

Faster and smoother 4K and multi-screen resolutions.

OK, ok, that was two more reasons... ;)
 
I certainly hope AMD got the TDP down. If it's not running at least close to a 980 TDP wise (meaning under 200), I won't buy it. I might be pissed off at Nvidia, but the card is useless to me if I don't want to play a game in the summer because it'll make my room heat up even with the AC on. I hated gaming with my GTX480 in the summer because it had a TDP of 250w.
 
LurkerLito said:
I certainly hope AMD got the TDP down. If it's not running at least close to a 980 TDP wise (meaning under 200), I won't buy it. I might be pissed off at Nvidia, but the card is useless to me if I don't want to play a game in the summer because it'll make my room heat up even with the AC on. I hated gaming with my GTX480 in the summer because it had a TDP of 250w.
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You won't be buying the 380x then lol.
 
^Yeah, and he can forget about GM200 as well lol

If you want 980 +30% for under 200W, best to wait for 16nm.
 
AMD should release a mid range card that will be next to 980 performance/TDP I would hope. Hopefully cheaper? We can always hope...
 
amd will not release a low TDP card until they make smaller nm's... If you want dem low TDP you need to wait for dem smaller NM's
 
HardLiner said:
So 20nm or 16nm GPU's aren't coming this year?
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These new cards could still be 20nm. Probably not, though.
Nothing is confirmed either way.

Funny thing, I still see people talking about these cards on other sites as if they are 20nm. I guess some people are more optimistic.
 
Since neither TSMC or GloFo has 20nm up for large die ASICs, i dont see how they could still be talking about it.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
It doesn't really matter how old it is, the only thing that matters is today's price.
If the 290X was something like $150 right now, I'd be praising it as the best deal in GPU history... But that's not the case, and it's over-priced.

The 290X and GTX 970 are the same price right now. There's no reason whatsoever to choose the 290X.

The 290 is in a much better spot, but it's still a solid $200 GPU and not a cent more.
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You haven't looked at 290x prices recently have you?
GTX970 = +$340
R9 290x = ~$260 aMIR if you shop around plus Civ:BE.

Nicholars said:
amd will not release a low TDP card until they make smaller nm's... If you want dem low TDP you need to wait for dem smaller NM's
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Not really. The new series will have similar power/performance as Maxwell. It should be within about 10%.
Pretty much everything you have said in this thread is BS. Why are you making stuff up?
 
LurkerLito said:
I certainly hope AMD got the TDP down. If it's not running at least close to a 980 TDP wise (meaning under 200), I won't buy it. I might be pissed off at Nvidia, but the card is useless to me if I don't want to play a game in the summer because it'll make my room heat up even with the AC on. I hated gaming with my GTX480 in the summer because it had a TDP of 250w.
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Seems that the GTX 980 uses a lot more power than you think. Look at the last chart that shows the power consumption. It is a little better than the R9 290X.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8962/the-directx-12-performance-preview-amd-nvidia-star-swarm/6
 
LordEC911 said:
You haven't looked at 290x prices recently have you?
GTX970 = +$340
R9 290x = ~$260 aMIR if you shop around plus Civ:BE.


Not really. The new series will have similar power/performance as Maxwell. It should be within about 10%.
Pretty much everything you have said in this thread is BS. Why are you making stuff up?
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I wish those prices where like that here. I'm doing a new build for a mate and the GTX970 is $50 cheaper than a r9 290 (non-X). A shame as I would love to put one in.
 
Maddness said:
I wish those prices where like that here. I'm doing a new build for a mate and the GTX970 is $50 cheaper than a r9 290 (non-X). A shame as I would love to put one in.
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290x prices have gotten stupid cheap in the US/Canada. I picked up an MSI model earlier this week for $233 after rebate -- thought I'd try a non-reference model to see if the noise is less than my reference 290x.

$340 for a 970 is a hard sell at the moment when you can do Crossfire 290xs for nearly the cost of a single 980 (provided you have the PSU for it).
 
LordEC911 said:
You haven't looked at 290x prices recently have you?
GTX970 = +$340
R9 290x = ~$260 aMIR if you shop around plus Civ:BE.


Not really. The new series will have similar power/performance as Maxwell. It should be within about 10%.
Pretty much everything you have said in this thread is BS. Why are you making stuff up?
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Literally not a single thing I have said in this thread is BS..... So where did you get the within 10% of maxwell from? That leaked slide a few months ago that is completely blatantly fake?!?! OR you could use my logic which is that it will probably be a 300w TDP part, prob with water cooling, will have similar architecture to the 290x or 285, on the same process prob and will have around 30% more (4096) cores.... Please do not make stupid claims and accuse me of talking BS, I am commenting based on information I have read, you have read one FAKE performance slide that said it was within 10% of maxwell and now say I am making stuff up and talking BS hahah.

NEWSFLASH FROM LORDEC911 - THE 380X WILL PERFORM 40% BETTER THAN A 980 WITH 4096 CORES AND A TDP UNDER 200W - whereas the 290x has a TDP of 275w and performs ~10% worse than the 980 That is what you have effectively just said, whereas all my comments are "BS" AMD must have hired some magicians to make this new card.
 
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LordEC911 I found this new leaked slide for you it should definitely be correct.

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If the 380x does have within 10% TDP of the 980 and 30-50% more performance I will actually eat my whole PC and film it on youtube... I am not joking... if the 380x has the TDP and performance you said in your post I will EAT MY PC, FILM IT AND POST IT ON YOUTUBE.
 
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