GTA V delayed till March now

KazeoHin said:
Or Rockstar was wanting just a bit more time to pad between releases to truly 'triple dip' on sales.

Honestly I hope it turns out awesome. I've been avoiding purchasing any version out of principle. I knew Rockstar wanted to tripple dip on sales, and I was not going to contribute.
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I keep seeing this tripple dip idea thrown around, and it really puzzles me. Sure, there are likely a handful of people who will triple dip, but I think it's going to be an incredibly small number. They are probably going to lose more in sales from people who are butt hurt about the delay than they are going to gain by people buying the game three times over.

Look around you... how many people do you see saying "oh well, I'll just buy it on PS4 and then on PC later"? Nobody? Chances are the majority of the people who want it on a console have it by now. If you know you want the PC version, why is it so hard to just wait patiently for the game to release? Quite a few people are doing to double up simply because of the amount of time that went by with no talk of a PC release or any indication that a current-gen version was coming. But really... if you buy the game three times, it's your own fucking fault.

polonyc2 said:
the same people defending GTA5 are the same people who a few weeks back raged against anyone who even hinted at the game getting another delay...seriously look back a few pages (or in another thread)...they gave Rockstar the benefit of the doubt even after their strangely worded press release somewhat denying any further delays...it was obvious then that another delay was coming and the writing is on the wall again for another lackluster port...I mean all you need to do is look at GTA4 PC

what makes anyone (except the same people who defend everything) think otherwise?
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Max Payne 3 was a phenomenal port. Looked great, performed great, had very few issues. GTA V is using that same engine. Being that the groundwork has been utilized very well in the past by R*, I see no reason why they wouldn't build on that experience and be able to do the same again. Also, I've seen rumors that the same team that ported MP3 is also responsible for porting GTA V. If that's true, that only further strengthens the idea that it's being handled by a team that's very familiar with the engine on PC and very qualified to get it running at it's best. GTA IV was a shitty port. It also came out six years ago. Maybe it's time to get over it?

I also don't get how a delay is writing on the wall that it's destine to be a shitty port. Lots of games get delayed. That's life. Just because it needs more time to be right does not mean it has to be shit no matter how much time that goes into it. Furthermore, if your concerned about the quality of the port, it's pretty easy to just not pre-order the game and wait and see what happens. You literally have nothing to lose by just being patient and seeing what happens.

EDIT: Reading back through the other thread, I also don't see anyone raging at anyone who hints at a delay. I see people raging over the rumor of a delay, and I see people countering that it really shouldn't be a big deal if it's true. What am I missing?
 
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polonyc2 said:
the same people defending GTA5 are the same people who a few weeks back raged against anyone who even hinted at the game getting another delay...seriously look back a few pages (or in another thread)...they gave Rockstar the benefit of the doubt even after their strangely worded press release somewhat denying any further delays...it was obvious then that another delay was coming and the writing is on the wall again for another lackluster port...I mean all you need to do is look at GTA4 PC

what makes anyone (except the same people who defend everything) think otherwise?...I'll get the game if it gets good reviews but it's no big deal to me either way....I've never played any of the previous GTA games although I loved Sleeping Dogs and also liked Watch Dogs quite a bit more then most...the hype for these GTA games always escaped me...always on the 'best games of all time' lists etc so I do want to try it for that reason alone
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Who was raging? I've saw a lot of people raging at people talking about a delay on other forums, but here I mostly recall a lot of calm, reasonable discussion on both sides talking about PR wording and what Rockstar usually does. Of course a lot of people doubted a delay because a delay two weeks before release with a bunch of promotional material out there is incredibly rare and there was no real evidence of a delay happening. When stuff is "reported" by shit rumor sites like WCCF it's worth ignoring and not believing.

As for it being bad. What signs exactly.? GTA IV is ONE GAME. Everyone points to ONE GAME. Yet I could point to GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas, LA Noire (game was poorly designed, port wasn't bad), and Max Payne 3 as counters. MP3 was the last game they released on the PC and that was an excellent version (it also wasn't a port). That is supposedly the team working on this. Show me some actual proof that isn't some half-assed conspiracy theory or some bullshit speculation by random people on the internet.
 
Derangel said:
Who was raging? I've saw a lot of people raging at people talking about a delay on other forums, but here I mostly recall a lot of calm, reasonable discussion on both sides talking about PR wording and what Rockstar usually does. Of course a lot of people doubted a delay because a delay two weeks before release with a bunch of promotional material out there is incredibly rare and there was no real evidence of a delay happening. When stuff is "reported" by shit rumor sites like WCCF it's worth ignoring and not believing.

As for it being bad. What signs exactly.? GTA IV is ONE GAME. Everyone points to ONE GAME. Yet I could point to GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas, LA Noire (game was poorly designed, port wasn't bad), and Max Payne 3 as counters. MP3 was the last game they released on the PC and that was an excellent version (it also wasn't a port). That is supposedly the team working on this. Show me some actual proof that isn't some half-assed conspiracy theory or some bullshit speculation by random people on the internet.
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multiple delays is a bad sign...especially one coming 2 weeks before release...BS official statements about the game still being set for a Jan 27th release when they knew it was going to be delayed is a bad sign...and I'm sure the company that put that statement knew about the delay hence the curiously worded statement...GTA4 is relevant because it's the same series...Max Payne 3 was 2.5 years ago so it's not a sure fire bet that this game will run great because it shares the same port developer

you can get a feel for when a company is confident about an upcoming product...you knew DA: Inquisition was going to be great because of how in the loop BioWare kept everyone about progress...plus they lifted the review embargo a week before release...everything about this GTA 5 PC release seems shrouded in mystery...hence people become more skeptical...delays are fine but this sounds like something more
 
polonyc2 said:
multiple delays is a bad sign...especially one coming 2 weeks before release...BS official statements about the game still being set for a Jan 27th release when they knew it was going to be delayed is a bad sign...and I'm sure the company that put that statement knew about the delay hence the curiously worded statement...GTA4 is relevant because it's the same series...Max Payne 3 was 2.5 years ago so it's not a sure fire bet that this game will run great because it shares the same port developer

you can get a feel for when a company is confident about an upcoming product...you knew DA: Inquisition was going to be great because of how in the loop BioWare kept everyone about progress...plus they lifted the review embargo a week before release...everything about this GTA 5 PC release seems shrouded in mystery...hence people become more skeptical...delays are fine but this sounds like something more
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I couldn't have said it better. Something smells about all this. God I hope it turns out awesome, I would love to be wrong.
 
polonyc2 said:
multiple delays is a bad sign...especially one coming 2 weeks before release...BS official statements about the game still being set for a Jan 27th release when they knew it was going to be delayed is a bad sign...and I'm sure the company that put that statement knew about the delay hence the curiously worded statement...GTA4 is relevant because it's the same series...Max Payne 3 was 2.5 years ago so it's not a sure fire bet that this game will run great because it shares the same port developer

you can get a feel for when a company is confident about an upcoming product...you knew DA: Inquisition was going to be great because of how in the loop BioWare kept everyone about progress...plus they lifted the review embargo a week before release...everything about this GTA 5 PC release seems shrouded in mystery...hence people become more skeptical...delays are fine but this sounds like something more
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The PC version has had two delays, not that many. According to that logic Witcher 3 should be highly considered bad as well. The PR person may or may not have known, Rockstar's PR has been crap since before the game originally launched on last gen consoles. GTA4 is relevant but going by that reasoning again so are the PS2 games, which had significantly better ports. Yes MP3 was two and a half years ago but it is the most recent PC game we have from Rockstar to look at, it is relevant in this discussion. By the way, Max Payne 3 was not a port. It's not a sure fire bet but since it's the same engine both it and GTAIV hold about the same weight. There is also LA Noire between those two and I believe Rockstar handled the PC port of that one internally so it fits in there somewhere.

Rockstar's PR is bad. They generally play it cagey with a lot of things. Even before GTAV's original release they weren't spamming out tons of information. Using Bioware is a bad example, they released a media storm for DA2, ME3, and TOR as well. Media storms and a billion press releases is kind of Bioware's thing, though they did do a lot this time to show off the versions and spend a lot of time promising it wouldn't be another DA2. That said DAI wasn't exactly in great shape at launch, on any platform.

I'm not saying there is no way that this can't end up bad, but I don't think it's as sure of a thing as people are claiming. A game being delayed should never be seen as a bad sign (unless we're talking multi-year delays). After last year I'd say companies delaying games is a good sign. Maybe we won't get a repeat of easily the worst year in gaming that I can remember in the 20+ years I've been playing games.
 
polonyc2 said:
wow...they're really shooting themselves in the foot with these delays and misinformation they keep spreading about the game not being delayed from its January 27th release date
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How are they shooting themselves in the foot?
Not like you aren't going to buy it if you were planning to buy it for PC.
 
dark_reign said:
Age has little to do with it. Skyrim was selling for $60 on PC after two years.
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I bought Skyrim for $15 in the Summer of 2012. That's maybe 1/2 - 3/4 of a year after release...
 
xIronCrossx said:
I bought Skyrim for $15 in the Summer of 2012. That's maybe 1/2 - 3/4 of a year after release...
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I was quoting full price and after 2 1/2 years since the standard edition release the Legendary Edition was selling for $60 on Steam.

Rockstar wants their ROI on the PC version of GTA V and then some.
 
^ lol It is getting bad when I kept seeing Threads that GTAV for PC was coming out in Jan. I really did refuse to click on them since, I figured it would be delayed again but as it caught closer I got more excited. Then they delay it all I can say is bummer and 2K give us
Mafia III and will all be happier. I play Mafia II way more then I play GTAIV Ford Thunderbird anyone.
 
2002m36sp said:
^ lol It is getting bad when I kept seeing Threads that GTAV for PC was coming out in Jan. I really did refuse to click on them since, I figured it would be delayed again but as it caught closer I got more excited. Then they delay it all I can say is bummer and 2K give us
Mafia III and will all be happier. I play Mafia II way more then I play GTAIV Ford Thunderbird anyone.
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Mafia II is a good game! I want to go back and replay it now with all the DLC!
 
Mafia II was horrible.....Watch Dogs was even better than that lol... At this point GTA V on PC is vaporware I swear.
 
Is this the HARD forum or the crying forum? That's all I see on here anymore..

wahhhh gtx 970
wahhh dont preorder
waahhh games are expensive...

Seriously?
 
Sodapopjones said:
Mafia II was horrible.....Watch Dogs was even better than that lol... At this point GTA V on PC is vaporware I swear.
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It needs a few more delays to be vaporware, dude. It hasn't even been a year since the PC version was announced.
 
Mafia 2 was a good STORY DRIVEN game. I wouldn't compare it to GTA, since it's more about the story with some limited free roaming aspects tied in. Great games for different reasons.
 
Fuck Rockstar and fuck GTA5. Bullshit GTA4 doesn't work almost a decade after release and they have the balls to attempt to scam others out of their money with another "product". Maybe if they hired some programmers to actually make their products work instead of fucking each other in the ass like the prison thugs they are they would put out a proper piece of software. GTA5 will be entirely non-fictional just like the last game. Fuck Rockstar, fuck GTA5, and fuck everyone who puts down money for this scam. :D Dumb fuckers are just as dumb as the illiterate bastards this game glorifies.
 
Flogger23m said:
Fuck Rockstar and fuck GTA5. I hope everyone involved in this garbage "product" are gunned down like the fucking thugs they are. Bullshit GTA4 doesn't work almost a decade after release and they have the balls to attempt to scam others out of their money with another "product". Maybe if they hired some programmers to actually make their products work instead of fucking each other in the ass like the prison thugs they are they would put out a proper piece of software. GTA5 will be entirely non-fictional just like the last game. Fuck Rockstar, fuck GTA5, and fuck everyone who puts down money for this scam. :D
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Because you can't install a game and run it properly does not make it a scam. :rolleyes:
 
xIronCrossx said:
Because you can't install a game and run it properly does not make it a scam. :rolleyes:
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They're selling a product, right now, that does not work years after release. If you don't realize it is a scam then you're an idiot and Rockstar thanks you for your "business". A fool born every minute I suppose. Feel free to blow your money how you see fit.
 
Why does everyone find the need to instantly start insulting others when they don't agree? It just makes your argument look even sillier than it already is. I have over 100 hours in GTA 4 based on Steam, so if it's not working that is on YOUR end.
 
xIronCrossx said:
Why does everyone find the need to instantly start insulting others when they don't agree? It just makes your argument look even sillier than it already is. I have over 100 hours in GTA 4 based on Steam, so if it's not working that is on YOUR end.
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So if someone's car blows up and burns half the occupants to death due to a manufacturing flaw, but your car works fine, you blame the customer? I sure hope you're not in customer service. :eek: Shitty products are shit, plain and simple. If you can't make a game launch without three different DRM programs, and then disallow you from editing settings, then you fucking suck as a PC game developer. They would have been incompetent had this been month 1 of the release, but ~8 years later it is criminal. It makes Assassin's Creed Unity look like a smooth launch. Again, not surprising when the developers are fascinated by prison rape and thugs. Takes a low life piece of fucking trash thug to know one. Hope they all get sent to prison where they can experience a few brutal rapes for themselves. Then they'll see how much they like their thug life. ;)
 
Sprayingmango said:
Is this the HARD forum or the crying forum? That's all I see on here anymore..

wahhhh gtx 970
wahhh dont preorder
waahhh games are expensive...

Seriously?
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Because not liking anti-consumer practices, and not wanting to be fucked by the games industry == crying?

You people crack me up. You people with no backbone, no principles, no standards. You people who will profess their love to these businesses and insult and attack anyone who disagrees and who will happily bend over backwards for the companies that you love as if they give a damn about you.

And the GTX970? A faulty card, that was falsely advertised and you come in here telling people that if they have a problem with that, that they're just crying? Really? Get wrecked.
 
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Everyone compaling needs to just play gta 4 on pc. That game runs so terrible it is as if it is just a giant joke that they pulled on the community.

Was I disappointed when the game was delayed? Sure i was. But I hope this means that they truly are going for a good port. Because I have yet to see one. In So many years of gaming
 
Sprayingmango said:
Is this the HARD forum or the crying forum? That's all I see on here anymore..

wahhhh gtx 970
wahhh dont preorder
waahhh games are expensive...

Seriously?
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Quoted for truth. But its not just this place, its everywhere. Reddit, IGN, you name it - the entitlement and the dumb is just bubbling out of the pot anywhere you go.
 
Stanfiem said:
Everyone compaling needs to just play gta 4 on pc. That game runs so terrible it is as if it is just a giant joke that they pulled on the community.
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It runs smooth now if using newer hardware. My biggest complaint with GTA IV is the lack of beginning and mid-mission check points. Also, a fast travel option (without using the cab) would be nice.
 
GTA4 is "better" now, but it's still not exactly smooth - no matter what kind of horsepower you have.
TLaD still has a broken vsync, too.
 
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