HTC One (M9)

T4rd said:
But show me marketshare outside of China, because I don't think anyone outside of China has ever seen any phones from half the OEMs on that list.
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Good points, and yes China is a huge market of over a billion potential customers, but they are NOT the entire world.

Majority of Americans, Canadians, Europeans, and Japanese, I am sure don't know half those brands. Most general people only know; Apple, Samsung, Nokia and Sony, for sure. And maybe HTC, maybe LG, but no way those other Chinese brands yet.

Not saying they won't a in a few years time, but it will take awhile for the John Doe public to start buying a " Huawei " branded gadget, in any meaningful sales numbers.
 
T4rd said:
But show me marketshare outside of China, because I don't think anyone outside of China has ever seen any phones from half the OEMs on that list.
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Same can be said about HTC. Unless you're a phone enthusiast the general public doesn't know HTC and the brand is as obscure as something like ZTE or Coolpad. Add to the fact that it doesn't even get an entry on that list but bundled into "other".
 
mi7chy said:
Same can be said about HTC. Unless you're a phone enthusiast the general public doesn't know HTC and the brand is as obscure as something like ZTE or Coolpad. Add to the fact that it doesn't even get an entry on that list but bundled into "other".
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HTC is not some secret company name. I know a few ladies that are NOT tech geeks whatsoever, and even they are familiar with HTC. Of course nowhere near the popularity of Apple or Samsung brand name for smartphones though.
 
There is some truth to what TTL said. HTC just isn't as known to non-tech folks. LG is selling more phones because people actually know the brand. Branding and advertising account for a lot. HTC's marketing last year was basically Gary Oldman asking people to check the Internet and very briefly having him hold the phone; and the ads only played on TV for a few months. HTC may have made the most beautiful phone ever, but they need to get the word out by actually having a commercial that showcases the phone.
 
I'm skeptical of those shots. Not ruling them out completely, but they could be Photoshopped.

And I think HTC's best chance may be... well, Samsung's fall from grace. That sense that Samsung is the "inevitable" choice in Android is thankfully starting to fade, so there's an opening where rivals like HTC, LG and Sony may get more recognition simply because more people are deciding they want something other than the next Galaxy S.
 
Looks like they're (thankfully) keeping the SD card slot, I can see the same tray for it on the right side. Assuming that's not the SIM card slot, because that's on the other/left side of the M8.

I'm getting pretty pumped for this phone. My wife thinks she's going to get a new phone with our current available upgrade, but I'm going to talk her into taking my M8 so I can get the M9. :D Her current phone is a GS4 that, despite factory resetting and trying countless other solutions found online, has horribad standby time and likes to drain as much battery while the screen is off as when it's on. Only thing I can think of is Facebook on it, but it's hard to tell when every app is disguised as "Android OS" or "Android system." :mad: My M8 will still be a huge upgrade over it.
 
Aurelius said:
And I think HTC's best chance may be... well, Samsung's fall from grace. That sense that Samsung is the "inevitable" choice in Android is thankfully starting to fade, so there's an opening where rivals like HTC, LG and Sony may get more recognition simply because more people are deciding they want something other than the next Galaxy S.
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Much like how people refuses to get another HTC thanks to thunderbolt, I know people refusing to get another Samsung thanks to the Galaxy S3 and 4's, but many of these guys went back to Apple because Androids suck when it's mostly TouchWiz that sucks.
 
CHANG3D said:
Much like how people refuses to get another HTC thanks to thunderbolt, I know people refusing to get another Samsung thanks to the Galaxy S3 and 4's, but many of these guys went back to Apple because Androids suck when it's mostly TouchWiz that sucks.
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Yeah, I was mainly thinking of the people who feel tied into the Android ecosystem. No doubt some of the folks deciding against Samsung will get iPhones, since it's the other big alternative that they've heard about (and they happen to be nice devices). It's just important to note that this opens the window for multiple vendors.
 
those were decoys?!?

DECOYS!?!

http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...-M9-has-changes-to-BoomSound-and-more_id65190

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We have seen a number of photos showing what has been characterized as a prototype HTC One (M9).
As we pointed out, there were a few changes when compared to the HTC One (M8).
[B][COLOR="Red"]But a report published on Saturday says that the HTC One (M9) units that have been making
the rounds in photographs are decoys and "do not accurately represent the final design of the HTC One (M9)."[/COLOR][/B]
The report adds that these decoys do have the correct internal parts for the HTC One (M9).

Including this one?
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Zorachus said:
I am surprised and not surprised at HTC here. For one reason I can see them pulling an Apple, keeping the same physical phone design / shape for two model years, which works just fine for Apple, they keep selling the S model like hotcakes, which is always the same size and design as the previous years phone.

But I would have liked to see HTC go to like a 5.2" screen size in almost the same size body as the M8, by getting rid of that bottom HTC logo bar, and shrinking the speaker bezels a hair smaller, and just making everything smaller while making a larger screen. Follow what LG does on their G2 and G3, they get a lot of screen size in a very tight small footprint.

And would like to see a flat back, like the Galaxy S line and iPhone. i really like the lay flat on table design with no bulge rocking the phone back and forth.
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Never bothered me, but my phone is in a case anyways. the curved design gives the phone some extra padding towards the sides in the right case.
 
New rumors suggest that the next One (M9 or not) will be closer to the design of the Nexus 9 than the One M8 - all the pictures we're seeing so far are decoys. But this is the Zorachus type of rumors.
 
CHANG3D said:
New rumors suggest that the next One (M9 or not) will be closer to the design of the Nexus 9 than the One M8 - all the pictures we're seeing so far are decoys. But this is the Zorachus type of rumors.
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I'm going to guess that they will have the front speakers kind of hidden along the edges of the sides like the N9, but still have the Aluminum shape/chassis of the M8, which I think would look pretty sweet.

Either way, I really don't care much about what it looks like or if it still has the HTC bar at the bottom. I'm pretty sure I'm getting it if the specs don't change from what has been rumored so far. Pretty much as long as they keep it at 1080p and around 5", I'm getting it.
 
T4rd said:
I'm going to guess that they will have the front speakers kind of hidden along the edges of the sides like the N9, but still have the Aluminum shape/chassis of the M8, which I think would look pretty sweet.

Either way, I really don't care much about what it looks like or if it still has the HTC bar at the bottom. I'm pretty sure I'm getting it if the specs don't change from what has been rumored so far. Pretty much as long as they keep it at 1080p and around 5", I'm getting it.
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Current rumors have me leaning toward a Galaxy S6 if TouchWiz really is reduced down and the design actually looks and feels premium. I could go for either the S810 or the Exynos, but I prefer the Exynos. But the HTC is close second (if it does look like a M8) with me waiting for an iPhone 6S Plus close third. If the HTC One looks totally amazing and Samsung's GS6 just looks like something that even XiaoMi or Huawai could do, then I'm sticking with HTC or waiting for iPhone 6S Plus.
 
CHANG3D said:
Current rumors have me leaning toward a Galaxy S6 if TouchWiz really is reduced down and the design actually looks and feels premium. I could go for either the S810 or the Exynos, but I prefer the Exynos. But the HTC is close second (if it does look like a M8) with me waiting for an iPhone 6S Plus close third. If the HTC One looks totally amazing and Samsung's GS6 just looks like something that even XiaoMi or Huawai could do, then I'm sticking with HTC or waiting for iPhone 6S Plus.
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As much as I love and prefer SAMOLED over the SLCD on my M8, I think I'd rather than the benefit of better battery life and performance with a 1080p display. Though that would only apply if both phones are using the same SoC, so it's possible the Exynos now rumored in the S6 could negate any battery advantage the M9 could have over it, esp. if it has a larger battery to boot. I'm sure Samsung will put a QHD in the S6 since they already have an S5 (Korean) variant with a QHD display.

And even if they "fix" or debloat TW, I really don't see them making it any better than Sense or close to stockish Android. From the leaks, it looks about exactly like it did before, so if they are really changing anything, hopefully it's all behind the scenes and more about performance and efficiency rather than aesthetics.

But at this point, I'm kind of wanting to support any OEM besides Samsung just for competition's sake. Samsung needs to be brought down a rung or two so they can be forced to truly innovate and evolve, rather than regurgitating the same lackluster software/UI and hardware design every year. Which they may actually achieve this year with the S6, but I'll make them wait another year or so before I buy any of their phones. I think HTC, Moto, LG, and even Sony are doing much more interesting things as of right now though.

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New leak. Uhhh.. take my money now please..?

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T4rd said:
As much as I love and prefer SAMOLED over the SLCD on my M8, I think I'd rather than the benefit of better battery life and performance with a 1080p display. Though that would only apply if both phones are using the same SoC, so it's possible the Exynos now rumored in the S6 could negate any battery advantage the M9 could have over it, esp. if it has a larger battery to boot. I'm sure Samsung will put a QHD in the S6 since they already have an S5 (Korean) variant with a QHD display.

And even if they "fix" or debloat TW, I really don't see them making it any better than Sense or close to stockish Android. From the leaks, it looks about exactly like it did before, so if they are really changing anything, hopefully it's all behind the scenes and more about performance and efficiency rather than aesthetics.

But at this point, I'm kind of wanting to support any OEM besides Samsung just for competition's sake. Samsung needs to be brought down a rung or two so they can be forced to truly innovate and evolve, rather than regurgitating the same lackluster software/UI and hardware design every year. Which they may actually achieve this year with the S6, but I'll make them wait another year or so before I buy any of their phones. I think HTC, Moto, LG, and even Sony are doing much more interesting things as of right now though.
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Me? I just want the best smartphone. The problem with the Galaxies in the past 3 years have been TouchWiz being absolutely shitty compared to the rest and cheap looks and design. If the GS6 rumors hold up about a good TouchWiz and premium design, I don't see much to hate about GS6 other than probably not having front facing or angled front facing stereo speakers. But the advantage of the GS6 is probably way more accessories. And if the Exynos rumors are true, I would love the Exynos just so Qualcomm could have competition.

HTC and Sony Electronic (Mobile) need to partner up if not merge already... Sony already can't survive cause they can't sell their devices to China, and can't hardly advertise it in America either. HTC just need priority access to better panels and sensors cheaper than it cost them now. Much like how the Nexus 6 is labeled like Moto X Pro in China, HTC and Sony could interchangeably brand their phones.
 
And here we go:
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Okay, this looks frigging awesome. It might have moved itself to the top of my list. But I still await the design of the GS6, new TouchWiz reviews, and whether the US will be getting exynos.

So funny that evleaks returned from retirement for this.

I do have one problem... Why can't the Max version be truly a bigger version of the regular One? Unless HTC just couldn't get a larger panel without the bezel, I see this as HTC repeating the mistake of the M8. Either get rid of that fingerprint sensor or replace that front htc logo with a fingerprint sensor. Just make the phones look the same but bigger with both having fingerprint sensors or no sensors at all. And logo could be placed in one of the top corners or have no logo at all in the front. Put a HTC logo in the back that glows or something if making a logo is that important...
 
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CHANG3D said:
Me? I just want the best smartphone. The problem with the Galaxies in the past 3 years have been TouchWiz being absolutely shitty compared to the rest and cheap looks and design. If the GS6 rumors hold up about a good TouchWiz and premium design, I don't see much to hate about GS6 other than probably not having front facing or angled front facing stereo speakers. But the advantage of the GS6 is probably way more accessories. And if the Exynos rumors are true, I would love the Exynos just so Qualcomm could have competition.

HTC and Sony Electronic (Mobile) need to partner up if not merge already... Sony already can't survive cause they can't sell their devices to China, and can't hardly advertise it in America either. HTC just need priority access to better panels and sensors cheaper than it cost them now. Much like how the Nexus 6 is labeled like Moto X Pro in China, HTC and Sony could interchangeably brand their phones.
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Normally I would do/say the same thing (just get the best smartphone). But in addition to my above points, I hate to admit that I'm just sick of seeing Samsung phones everywhere too. I seriously see more GS and Note phones more than iPhones now. More than anything though, QHD pretty much kills the deal for me, I just think it's way too excessive and virtually imperceptible in a sub 5.5" display compared to 1080p.

And yes, a HTC/Sony merger/partnership would be fuggin sweet. A water proof One with Sony's newer and much more power efficient Triluminos display and camera sensor would be epic.
 
Maybe I'm alone on this. Logos placed on the front of the phone are distracting and tacky. They made such a beautiful phone and then stamped their brand / advertising on it.
 
OP20 said:
Maybe I'm alone on this. Logos placed on the front of the phone are distracting and tacky. They made such a beautiful phone and then stamped their brand / advertising on it.
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Looks pretty tasteful and clean to me. logos in and of themselves are not hideous, it depends on the logo/branding.


This logo

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looks a hell of a lot cleaner and more elegant than this blue oval monstrosity

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Although the GS6's design has not been confirmed yet, but the rumors don't look too good for Samsung. So now I'm deciding between the regular or the Ultra/Max version. If the regular one doesn't go the Apple route to include OIS, I'll take the regular one. That logo bar makes the Ultra/Max ugly, and I don't need fingerprint sensor anyway; I plan on using a bluetooth device for locking/unlocking. I sure hope that the regular one has the UltraPixel front facing camera. Also, if neither phones have OIS for rear facing camera, I'd wait for a 6S/6SP. Another reason for me to get an iPhone is the Apple watch.
 
Hmm, I want that leak to be real so bad even though I'm pretty sure it's fake as usual. Hopefully the Snapdragon 810 that HTC is using won't be problematic...
 
Any rumors if they will offer this with Windows OS on it, like they did with the M8?
 
I am hoping the new M9 keeps water resistance. I might get it since its been rumored that Sony might not make a Z4.
 
Nimisys said:
Any rumors if they will offer this with Windows OS on it, like they did with the M8?
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Not as of yet. They took like 6-8 months to release the WP variant of the M8, so it will probably take a while after launch for them to do it again if they even do it at all (honestly I wouldn't count on it though).
 
So is there an official size listed for the battery ?

If they stick with the 1080p screen, we'd only need like a 2,900mAh battery or so, to get some killer life out of the M9. Is the Snapdragon 810 + Lollipop supposed to be more efficient, compared to the Snapdragon 801 + Kit Kat was on the M8 ?

I had the HTC One M8, great phone, was running a custom ROM, with a battery friendly kernel, and I had Greenify and settings for battery saving, etc... Overall the One M8 was pretty good on battery life, but not awesome. After the M8, I got the OnePlus One, it had much better and longer battery life, and now running a Jailbreak iPhone 6 Plus, and this beast is even better than the OnePlus on battery, and totally blows away the One M8, on battery stamina.

Any chance the One M9 could get close to 6 Plus battery life ?
 
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Zorachus, let's wait for the official announcement...

But I also find it funny that HTC's real world battery life is better than Samsung's when Samsung has the highest battery spec.

Also, all rumors point to Samsung using a smaller battery this year due to trying to make it thin and Apple-esque...
 
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CHANG3D said:
Zorachus, let's wait for the official announcement...

But I also find it funny that HTC's real world battery life is better than Samsung's when Samsung has the highest battery spec.

Also, all rumors point to Samsung using a smaller battery this year due to trying to make it thin and Apple-esque...
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Between the two phones only, the S6 or M9. IMO the M9 all the way no comparison. The M9 will have the right 1080p screen, where as the S6 will sport the stupid 2K screen. The M9 has a 2900mAh battery, the S6 like 2550mAh to keep it thin. No more waterproofing on the S. And of the two UI's I find Sense much nicer than Touchwiz.
 
Why is this M9 thread towards the bottom of the page, and the last post was 7 days ago :( Where as the S6 is posted in like every hour or more.
 
Zorachus said:
Why is this M9 thread towards the bottom of the page, and the last post was 7 days ago :( Where as the S6 is posted in like every hour or more.
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Probably because more leaks/news has been coming out about the S6 and more people are concerned about it with the somewhat controversial/disappointing leaks we've seen so far.

M9 seems like it's going to be a solid phone regardless with what we've seen so far. Not much to talk about unless we hear something different.
 
T4rd said:
Probably because more leaks/news has been coming out about the S6 and more people are concerned about it with the somewhat controversial/disappointing leaks we've seen so far.

M9 seems like it's going to be a solid phone regardless with what we've seen so far. Not much to talk about unless we hear something different.
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Yep, S6 is new and different, M9 is pretty much same old same old.
 
I like the integrated kickstand, but I think I hate curved backs as much as I hate the camera bump.
 
I can't tell if that's a camera bump. I would expect HTC to know better than to have a camera bump in the design; if you're not Apple, you can't get away with a camera bump! This goes to you, too, Samsung! I hope it's a spigen rendering mistake, because the angle of it on the blue case doesn't even make sense. Maybe the sensor has a flat silver border around it.
 
Here is the render of the camera bump and all. Still don't know which one is real!

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I would still say any less of the evleaks render would be kind of disappointing now!
 
Yeah I hope the leaks from yesterday are not real. Otherwise they are disappointing. The One has always had an outstanding build quality. However the one area they could improve on was form factor. The screen to size ratio has never been very good making the M8 feel much bigger than it actually is (huge top and bottom bezels being the main culprit). It looked like HTC had improved this by making their boom speakers smaller slits which would hopefully keep the awesome sound while reducing the overall footprint of the phone. The leaks from yesterday looks like a phone virtually identical to what was released two years ago. If true, where's the progress? Anyway, I hope the evleaks are accurate because that looks like a phone I would buy.
 
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Here is the render of the camera bump and all. Still don't know which one is real!

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I would still say any less of the evleaks render would be kind of disappointing now!
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Oh please don't be real :(. I much prefer the other leak above this from Spigen with the speakers just a slit on the edge.

These newest ones make the M9 look nearly identical to the M8 still with the wasted space HTC black logo bar at the bottom. Will be very disappointed if this is needed the M9
 
Doesn't really effect my decision yet. Still waiting on whether TouchWiz would still suck. I'm also waiting for the Apple Watch announcement.
 
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