NCASE M1 v2 Build Thread

Looks great! I love how the fans and heatsinks look perfectly aligned. Btw how did you get 5 fans powered with only 4 headers on the mobo?
 
I used NA-SYC1 Y-Cables to control two NF-S12A PWM fans (bottom) via one header.
Rest 3 headers for NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 x2 and NF-A9x14 PWM. :)
 
Still working on my build. Didn't realize a H75 with push/pull fan setup wouldn't fit if mounted above the CPU. Ended up returning the H75.

I'm using the SilverStone NT06-Pro. now that I had been using in my old SG05. Fits well in the M1. Still going to have the two side fans and one fan on the bottom, all blowing air into the case. The only exhaust fans will be my GPU fan and PSU fan. That should still give me positive pressure, right?
 
Synomenon said:
Still working on my build. Didn't realize a H75 with push/pull fan setup wouldn't fit if mounted above the CPU. Ended up returning the H75.

I'm using the SilverStone NT06-Pro. now that I had been using in my old SG05. Fits well in the M1. Still going to have the two side fans and one fan on the bottom, all blowing air into the case. The only exhaust fans will be my GPU fan and PSU fan. That should still give me positive pressure, right?
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you should definitely be able fit a push/pull H75 above the motherboard. i have a Tt Water 3.0 Performer in push/pull (same asetek cooler) above the mobo and it fits with no problems.

i also have a H55 in push/pull in the other fan bracket running a G10 on my 290.
 
izaka said:
Finally got my build done. :D

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Nice build ! It reminds me of the prototype testing Necere did, but with current hardware.
 
callumbolch said:
you should definitely be able fit a push/pull H75 above the motherboard. i have a Tt Water 3.0 Performer in push/pull (same asetek cooler) above the mobo and it fits with no problems.

i also have a H55 in push/pull in the other fan bracket running a G10 on my 290.
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How were you able to fit it in there? I couldn't get the tubes to bend without almost blocking the airflow from the fans.

Have any pics. of the setup?
 
Synomenon said:
How were you able to fit it in there? I couldn't get the tubes to bend without almost blocking the airflow from the fans.

Have any pics. of the setup?
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no pics as yet sorry. i have the pump end hoses at a NW angle on the mobo (top/rear 45deg) then run basically a 270deg loop to have the rad hose ends at the top of the case. fits well, does probably block some fan airflow but its on the downstream side of the rad so im not too fussed. also i appear to get good ventilation out the top of the case (when with my ASUS mobos VRM daughterboard there).

http://www.overclock.net/t/1365342/lightbox/post/22577414/id/2100856

similar to this setup but a little neater haha.
 
izaka said:
Finally got my build done. :D

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My Rig :
CPU: Intel i7-4790K
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VII IMPACT
Memory: CORSAIR Vengeance Pro 16GB
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB
HDD: Hitachi 1TB 2.5"
Video Card: R9 290 Ref with Arctic Accelero Xtreme III
Power Supply: Silverstone 600W SFX

Full Building Record
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amazing log man. I'm looking at the Noctua fans right now as well for my build. Just curious, how do the acoustics of the Noctua industrial fans compare to the original NF-F12's? I'd like to get the black ones as they'd obviously match the case better and the higher air flow would definitely be better for my radiator. But I'd rather stay with the original if switching to the black ones means I'd be losing out on quietness.
 
callumbolch said:
you should definitely be able fit a push/pull H75 above the motherboard. i have a Tt Water 3.0 Performer in push/pull (same asetek cooler) above the mobo and it fits with no problems.

i also have a H55 in push/pull in the other fan bracket running a G10 on my 290.
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I was trying push/pull with normal 25mm thick fans. Looks like the fans are thinner in that pic..
 
Synomenon said:
I was trying push/pull with normal 25mm thick fans. Looks like the fans are thinner in that pic..
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oh yeh sorry i forgot about that.

im running push/pull Akasa Apache Blacks (25mm) on my CPU intake atm, but in the same manner he has his orientation set up
 
Accidentally posted this in the general M1 thread. Edited and moved here since it's a build related post.
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So I have three case fans (two on the side bracket and one on the bottom), all three sucking air into the case.

The one on the bottom just happened to align almost perfectly with the GTX770's fan and the side fan closest to the front also aligns pretty well with the SX600G's fan. The side fan closest to the rear of the case sits almost directly on top of the NT06-Pro..

The only exhaust fans are the video card's and the PSU's.


I'm using these fans:

Enermax T.B. Vegas UCTVS12P-W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835214052

They have a switch on them that lets them run in "Ultra Silent Mode", "Silent Mode", or "Performance Mode". I have the switch in "Ultra Silent Mode":

500-1200RPM
20.42-50.68CFM
0.618-1.504 mm/H20 Static Pressure

The two on the side are plugged into my M7 Impact's CPU fan header with a PWM splitter cable. The one on the bottom is plugged into the M7 Impact's chassis fan header. I took off the Demciflex filters and am running filter-less now.



I hope I have enough positive pressure to keep dust to a minimum.




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Synomenon said:
I took off the Demciflex filters and am running filter-less now.

I hope I have enough positive pressure to keep dust to a minimum.
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Even running at positive pressure, you'll still be sucking dust in through the intakes without having filters installed. Any particular reason you decided to remove your Demci's?

Also, how's your temps with that much of an air-gap between the rear side fan and the NT06? I used to have a 120mm F12 mounted on my side rack, blowing through ~1/2" of empty space before hitting my C12 cooler, but found that mounting the fan directly on the cooler provided much better temps (and better still when I switched to larger 140mm fans).
 
I took the Demci filters off because I couldn't feel any air blowing from the fan when the filters were on. When I changed my fans to performance mode, the amount of air blowing was about the same as the fans running in ultra silent without the filters, but with all the noise of performance mode.

I haven't had a chance to measure temps. yet, but if they're not good I'll look into some kind of ducting or adding another fan on top of the NT06-Pro..
 
It might be that the Demciflex filters restrict the airflow up to a certain level and increasing airflow by upping the voltage or PWM cycle isn't helping much. It's not based on anything scientific from my part so it might be totally wrong.
 
Nitro16 said:
I've updated to this bios and I cant boot at anything other than stock settings on my 4770K. It was driving me mad so I've reverted back to the release bios.
Has anyone else had any issues with it?
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IVEST said:
Yes, with the new 0412 BIOS installed the ASUS Maximus VII Impact refuses to see my Samsung XP941 256GB M.2 SSD as bootable. Both Windows 8.1 and the Windows 10 preview refuse installation complaining about lack of motherboard support.

Owners of this motherboard should avoid version 0412 BIOS, and hold off until a working version becomes available.
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Kindly be advised of the above. BIOS 0412 for the Maximus VII Impact appears to be somewhat toxic.

PS: It boots just fine from a standard SATA Samsung 850 Pro
 
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Nice build, well done ! I also like the rubber hoses. Is that a 35mm radiator ?
 
Phuncz said:
Nice build, well done ! I also like the rubber hoses. Is that a 35mm radiator ?
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Thanks! It's EK's CoolStream PE radiator at 38mm thick, plus a pair of Rosewill Hyperborea 120mm at 25mm thick.

I used the Koolance 90° barbs because the thread-in section is only 17mm across so it fits right down into the hole cut in the EK radiator shroud. It probably frees up 3-4mm total.

The tubing is EK's matte black 10/16mm
 
Considering picking up 2 Noctua NF-S12A PWM fans for the bottom on the case, however I have a reference-blower EVGA GTX 980 SC and the clearance will only be a few MM. The side panel is not an intake. Do I need to run a more pressure optimised NF-P12 due to the area-restriction caused by the 980, and regardless of fan choice, will this interfere with the 980's intake?
 
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Considering picking up 2 Noctua NF-S12A PWM fans for the bottom on the case, however I have a reference-blower EVGA GTX 980 SC and the clearance will only be a few MM. The side panel is not an intake. Do I need to run a more pressure optimised NF-P12 due to the area-restriction caused by the 980, and regardless of fan choice, will this interfere with the 980's intake?
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A couple of people apparently tried out bottom fans for additional intake and they found insignificant gains. Also at the bottom while its true that space is limited theres nothing really restricting air flow so I would actually go with something like the S12a rather then a pressure optimized fan so you can concentrate the air flow into the blower.
 
88records said:
A couple of people apparently tried out bottom fans for additional intake and they found insignificant gains. Also at the bottom while its true that space is limited theres nothing really restricting air flow so I would actually go with something like the S12a rather then a pressure optimized fan so you can concentrate the air flow into the blower.
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Thanks for the reply :) I'm replacing my H220 with the new Noctua NH-U9S, and moving the HDD from the bottom to the side-mount cage, removing my side intake. That's my primary reason for wanting to run bottom intakes. Thanks again for the input!
 
Hi guys,

Long time lurker, first time poster :).

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14 CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card
Hard Drive: 3.5" Western Digital 4TB SATA
Hard Drive: 3.5" Western Digital 4TB SATA
Hard Drive: 2.5" Samsung 840 Pro 500GB SSD
Power Supply: Silverstone SX500-LG 500W Gold SFX-L
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan
Case: NCASE M1 v3

Rationale:
* I chose the Gigabyte motherboard for three main reasons: 1) Its intel wireless chipset is much better supported in Linux than the Broadcom chipset in the Asus Maximus VII. 2) I feel that position of the CPU socket is more ideal than on the MSI z97 Gaming 5. 3) I plan on using a Schiit Modi USB DAC for which the guaranteed 5v USB port will be nice.
* The MSI GTX970 looks to have a pretty good blower setup.
* The G.Skill Sniper memory should hopefully not be impeded by the NH-C14 CPU Cooler.
* I'm planning on using 2x Noctua NF-F12 on the case floor as intakes.

Questions:
1) If I understand correctly, the top fan of the Noctua NH-C14 will be almost touching the panel of the case. So, I won't need a 120mm fan in front of it?
2) The only fans venting air out of the case would be the CPU Cooler and the Video Card's rear exhaust blower. Will this work okay?
3) I'm planning on mounting the 2x 3.5" HDDs in the drive cage above the PSU and the SSD where the ODD would have been. Will the drives fit - will they not be obstructed by the SFX-L PSU or Video Card?

Thanks!
 
andornaut said:
Questions:
1) If I understand correctly, the top fan of the Noctua NH-C14 will be almost touching the panel of the case. So, I won't need a 120mm fan in front of it?
2) The only fans venting air out of the case would be the CPU Cooler and the Video Card's rear exhaust blower. Will this work okay?
3) I'm planning on mounting the 2x 3.5" HDDs in the drive cage above the PSU and the SSD where the ODD would have been. Will the drives fit - will they not be obstructed by the SFX-L PSU or Video Card?
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1) There is no substantial advantage in putting two fans in series, it would be more efficient to have a duct so the fan can't get warm air from inside the case (when attached to the CPU cooler) or blow the cool air into the case (when attached to the fan bracket). Fans with more static pressure will help in this regard as they offer a more focused cone of air but often a simple DIY duct or commercial one will do more.
On a side-note, the 140mm fan won't fit with the HDD bracket together on the HDD bracket. Optimally you's best look at a heatsink with a 120mm fan mount and one that doesn't extend towards the PSU.

2) Don't forget the PSU which exhausts air into the top panel. The CPU cooler itself won't exhaust air, but it has an "exit" in the top panel if the air can't go anywhere else. You could try turning the 120mm fan on the fan bracket around so it exhausts air through the side panel if you are going to use fans on the bottom. This way you have the PSU's 120mm fan exhausting air, as well as the CPU's fan.

3) The HDD bracket won't fit with that CPU cooler.
 
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andornaut said:
3) I'm planning on mounting the 2x 3.5" HDDs in the drive cage above the PSU and the SSD where the ODD would have been. Will the drives fit - will they not be obstructed by the SFX-L PSU or Video Card?
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It is very likely that the 3.5" HDD cage for the side bracket will be blocked by the C14 cooler. I'm not 100% sure if this is the case using a Gigabyte board, but it is with an ASUS.

I would highly recommend reading through the M1 spreadsheet to verify if anyone has already tried this combo (Gigabyte, HDD rack, C14) before proceeding.

Also, maybe take a look at using the narrower Noctua C12 or L12, and the Scythe Kabuto 2 instead, if you'll be using the side HDD rack.


EDIT: Appears that the CPU socket placement on the Gigabyte is about the same as the ASUS..

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Ah yes, I forgot the C14 is that huge Noctua cooler with the 140mm fans. I'll edit my post.
 
Thanks very much Phuncz and AFD!

Re: CPU Cooler
The spreadsheet doesn't have an entry for the C14 or L12, but for the C12 it says:
"Yes, with heatpipes towards rear. Possible with pipes towards front, but no room for any rear exhaust fan. Clearance for non-VLP ram is good"

Noctua's site says that the C12P-SE14 has been discontinued in favor of the L12, which is a bit smaller with its 120mm fan vs 140mm for the other two. This seems like a safer bet.

Changes:
* Use the Noctua L12 instead of C14.
* Investigate placing a duct between the CPU cooler and side-panel.

Now I just have to wait for the Silverstone SX500-LG to be released. I'm a bit concerned about this PSU fitting with the MSI 970, but I guess I'll have to wait and see.
 
So I'm about to order everything for my first build (ever). If people could offer any suggestions or feedback on my selections or let me know what i'm forgetting that would be very helpful.

I've tried to review what other people have used (and I checked the google doc to see what works) but there is always the chance I over looked something obvious.


CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII IMPACT Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($229.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($149.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.96 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Silverstone 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($117.99 @ Directron)
Case Ncase M1 v2
Total: $1566.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-24 11:34 EST-0500

My biggest concern is cooling. I've never done anythign with liquid cooling before and not sure what else I'd need. I was told to get some additional fans but I'm not sure how many would be ideal.
 
If you're using a waterblock, memory height isn't an issue. No waterblock will extend beyond the HSF clearance area, let alone over the memory. The H100i has 90° angled swivelling barbs, so will easily manoeuvre around DIMMs of any height.
 
Indeed AFD ! The H100i does have both barbs on one end but it's still recommended to avoid possible issues when it's basically the same RAM but half the height and lower voltage for a small price increase.
 
So, last question before I order (promise). It looks like the 16GB kit for VLP Ram is more expensive than a single 8GB kit and it doesn't have prime shipping.


Can I just order two 8 GB sticks?

Here i the listing I'm looking at
 
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nipo said:
So I'm about to order everything for my first build (ever). If people could offer any suggestions or feedback on my selections or let me know what i'm forgetting that would be very helpful.
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Any specific reason for the Maximus Impact? MSI, Gigabyte and AsRock have much cheaper alternatives.
 
A couple of people apparently tried out bottom fans for additional intake and they found insignificant gains. Also at the bottom while its true that space is limited theres nothing really restricting air flow so I would actually go with something like the S12a rather then a pressure optimized fan so you can concentrate the air flow into the blower.
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Is there a specific fan you'd recommend to go with the case to circulate air?
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Can we really get away with no bottom fans? Less costs and less noise... too good to be true?
 
You rarely need bottom fans in this case, most GPU's block a lot of the airflow anyway. The only problem is when you have a non-reference GPU that doesn't use a blower-fan, they tend to circulate their own hot air because it get's trapped down there. Solutions are using fans to force cool air into the fans and the hot air to the top of the case, but almost the same result can be achieved by making ducts.
 
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