Verizon: We Don't Think You Need 1Gbps

besides, if the bandwidth is available and affordable, i am positive that people will come out with many fun and creative ways to utilize it
 
This guy seems to think that there is no real need for 1Gbps service in the home. :rolleyes:



This is probably the same asshole who argued with me years ago, Verizon Wireless is NOT double billing you each month. Ironically enough a LANDLINE employee whos only job was to switch phones to new addresses was the one who ultimately proved.... YES YOU WERE DOUBLE BILLING ME. lol

Verizon, in my experience, is the shittiest company I have ever had to deal with, and one of a handful i will NEVER do business with knowingly ever again.
 
umm if you look up in the above posts you see a clear example of why current internet connections are ready to be saturated right now.

The example that's quoted below your post is for an enterprise application. I have no doubt that there are companies that could use Gb pipes, but that's not what Verizon is talking about. Enterprises don't get Gb pipes for $70.00.
 
The example that's quoted below your post is for an enterprise application. I have no doubt that there are companies that could use Gb pipes, but that's not what Verizon is talking about. Enterprises don't get Gb pipes for $70.00.

Enterprise service is far and away different from consumer. Enterprise requires massive tolls of bandwidth and 99.99 percent reliable service minimum up time otherwise since time is money it cripples businesses not actively functioning. Consumers lose the Internet and its lame but it doesn't cripple them from continuing day to day activities unless they are running a small business out of their home which changes things.

The truth is that all of these services are overpriced. Business pay through the nose because they don't have a choice. Consumers , same deal. Once the fiber is laid its all an issue of maintaining the service. The amount of profit these ISP's rake in is astounding compared to after investment servicing.

There is very little oversight either. The FCC is probably the least functional arm of the Government. Tom Wheeler is a Dingo and bought and paid for by ISP's. Until the Internet is declared a utility things will remain the same.

People still don't think access to the net should be a right (or not enough of them) even though its now a function of your day to day life and many of the ways you can even achieve those functions is only because of the Internet. Other countries have seen this truth and made it mandatory. But here in the states its just a "luxury" and corporations are allowed to move about the cabin freely and take and do what they want when they want.

There is no debate anymore. 2 Million plus people chimed in about hating anti-net neutrality concepts being proposed by ISP's and the FCC's response? A joke of a "hybrid" plan that allows them exactly what they want circumventing the entire argument and leaving us without any say in the matter. That is a failure of capitalism because the market should dictate its own progression and the market is us the consumer.

Verizon should be honest and just say "We are scared shitless because Cable TV is dying. Its a huge revenue stream and now that everyone has a device connected to the Net that is portable and capable we see the writing on the wall. But here is how we will stifle this evolution of technology with archaic behavior and bought and paid for politicians"

The end.
 
A corporate shill decrying the need for higher-quality services! Whodathunkit?

For those of us that work over remote VPNs on a regular basis, there is no such thing as too much bandwidth. If his company spent less time minimizing the usage of his company's available services and more time maximizing the performance of his company's offerings, then maybe he could realize the value of maximizing revenue via providing the highest QOS vs the shortsighted perspective of maximizing profit for the least amount of available performance. I think the underlying issue here is that streaming threatens the dependence on dedicated channel bandwidth. And pretty much all broadcast content is currently structured on the false need for dedicated individual channel bandwidth.
 
If you manage to some how require 1Gb, great, but most customers don't need it and most aren't going to dump 70/month for internet.



I'd take 1Gb for $120 a month.... Then again, I'm currently paying $45 a month for 3 meg DSL. The MAXIMUM speed my AT&T offers. Sadly, I've been waiting for U-verse for years and it just arrived Wednesday!

Problem is... I called to upgrade and the maximum speed offered in my area is 768kb. :mad:
 
With all the talk about the money the ISPs rake in from fiber optic networks I am surprised that a lot of people here haven't started up their own ISP yet to make tons of money also.

While at it let me know how exactly you rake in all this money as it will help me with some of my projects
 
Starting up a new last mile communications provider* is always going to be a struggle. Your costs will likely end up comparable to the incumbent (new technology can reduce costs a bit, but building from scratch means lots of extra costs that the incumbent paid down years ago) but you will have to spread the income over far fewer suppliers. Worse the incumbent will likely try every legal trick it can think of to stop you.

The incumbents making large profits is not incompatible with life being very difficult for new upstarts.

* This is distinct from merely setting up an ISP. In many areas the last mile communication providers are vertically integrated with the ISPs but this is not true everywhere and it's less often true for enterprise class connections than for consumer connections.
 
I'd take 1Gb for $120 a month.... Then again, I'm currently paying $45 a month for 3 meg DSL. The MAXIMUM speed my AT&T offers. Sadly, I've been waiting for U-verse for years and it just arrived Wednesday!

Problem is... I called to upgrade and the maximum speed offered in my area is 768kb. :mad:

Well I wouldn't pay 120 for a 1TB (big b) connection, unless that meant I could resell my bandwidth, but $45.00 for DSL is fucked up. Hell, $45 for 30Mb is too much (unless it comes with HBO Go, then it's not awful, but not great either)
 
The example that's quoted below your post is for an enterprise application. I have no doubt that there are companies that could use Gb pipes, but that's not what Verizon is talking about. Enterprises don't get Gb pipes for $70.00.

No there are home examples read again.
 
Will streaming 4k content require Gb? Or perhaps 5k content? Someone out there would find a reason to use it.
 
Once the fiber is laid its all an issue of maintaining the service.
That's the problem, in many cases the main trunks of fiber are laid. But it's the big "ISPs" (Comcast & AT&T usually) that prevent it from getting used either by keeping it tied up in the courts or "freely speaking" (with donations) to those in charge. There's fiber not but 2 blocks away from me, it's all dark though.
 
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Enterprise service is far and away different from consumer. Enterprise requires massive tolls of bandwidth and 99.99 percent reliable service minimum up time otherwise since time is money it cripples businesses not actively functioning. Consumers lose the Internet and its lame but it doesn't cripple them from continuing day to day activities unless they are running a small business out of their home which changes things.

The truth is that all of these services are overpriced. Business pay through the nose because they don't have a choice. Consumers , same deal. Once the fiber is laid its all an issue of maintaining the service. The amount of profit these ISP's rake in is astounding compared to after investment servicing.

There is very little oversight either. The FCC is probably the least functional arm of the Government. Tom Wheeler is a Dingo and bought and paid for by ISP's. Until the Internet is declared a utility things will remain the same.

People still don't think access to the net should be a right (or not enough of them) even though its now a function of your day to day life and many of the ways you can even achieve those functions is only because of the Internet. Other countries have seen this truth and made it mandatory. But here in the states its just a "luxury" and corporations are allowed to move about the cabin freely and take and do what they want when they want.

There is no debate anymore. 2 Million plus people chimed in about hating anti-net neutrality concepts being proposed by ISP's and the FCC's response? A joke of a "hybrid" plan that allows them exactly what they want circumventing the entire argument and leaving us without any say in the matter. That is a failure of capitalism because the market should dictate its own progression and the market is us the consumer.

Verizon should be honest and just say "We are scared shitless because Cable TV is dying. Its a huge revenue stream and now that everyone has a device connected to the Net that is portable and capable we see the writing on the wall. But here is how we will stifle this evolution of technology with archaic behavior and bought and paid for politicians"

The end.

EOT... Godmachine wins the discussion
 
That's the problem, in many cases the main trunks of fiber are laid. But it's the big "ISPs" (Comcast & AT&T usually) that prevent it from getting used either by keeping it tied up in the courts or "freely speaking" (with donations) to those in charge. There's fiber not but 2 blocks away from me, it's all dark though.

Trunk fiber is cheap, last mile is expensive.

It's more expensive than you think to build out a neighborhood.
 
Zarathustra[H];1041245930 said:

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Give the vast majority of customers the option between 50Mbps for $50/month and 1Gbps for even $70/month and your uptake of Gigabit will be pitiful.

There's no killer app to sell the service when slower, cheaper tiers exist. But the MSO still has to engineer their network to handle the Gigabit offering, while making a profit.

It just doesn't make sense to build it outside of greenfield construction.
 
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