About to pull the trigger on 4K - thoughts?

Rurki

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your performance will be on the lower end. You will def not be able to use any sort of AA,
 
Not like AA is really needed at 4K anyway. Should be glorious. Enjoy!
 
I'm about to place the order for the following items.

Acer XB280HK bprz Black 28" 1ms 4K Widescreen LED Backlight G-sync
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009658

and

2x MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G GeForce GTX 970 for SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832

I'm not really concerned about the money as I am the performance. What do you think?

I play COD, Diablo 3 and whatever else comes along.

If you're not concerned about the money and moreso with performance, I'd add another 970 and make it Tri-SLI assuming your motherboard and PSU are capable.
 
If you're not concerned about the money and moreso with performance, I'd add another 970 and make it Tri-SLI assuming your motherboard and PSU are capable.

So 4k and tri-sli. That rig will be headache city.
 
I'm not really sold on 4K on a 28" screen. I've never gamed on one but I've sat and watched the video they have running thru the floor model at my local Best Buy. Yeah it looks good but no better than a good 1440 at least to my old eyes. I know gaming will be a little different but I can't imagine it would be that drastic and considering you could spend a grand on video cards and still not get all that great of frame rates I just don't see the point. Even if I could shit money I'd still rather have a high quality 1440 27" or 32" where my pair of 970's would rip thru every game on the market. Just my 2¢.
 
I'm about to place the order for the following items.

Acer XB280HK bprz Black 28" 1ms 4K Widescreen LED Backlight G-sync
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009658

and

2x MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G GeForce GTX 970 for SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832

I'm not really concerned about the money as I am the performance. What do you think?

I play COD, Diablo 3 and whatever else comes along.

To be really honest I was in the dilemma of choosing this too. I almost pulled the trigger but decided against it.

4k really isn't really feasible currently. You need way too much hardware to run games at 60fps +.

After much back and forth Rurki I decided to go with 2560x1440 144hz Gsync or synced monitor after Christmas. When I can get about 60fps from a single graphics card I will consider 4k/5k. I honestly don't think I would feel happy with a 4k gaming rig. The moment a new demanding game comes out it's back to 30fps ville. No thanks (for now)

I'm going to see what Freesync is all about. Once I see some reviews next month of the technology I'll then decide if my next monitor will be a freesync or gsync. I'll be selling my 3 120hz Asus 3d ready monitors and doing all this soon enough. :)
 
I wouldn't go past 2 GPUs. Shit gets crazy.

People have enough issues with 2x. Check out pcper frame times on 3x cards, most the time your performance gets worse.
 
Agreed. I was more coming at it in regards to the 290X's run about $400 less than a pair of 980's. I know OP said he's not really sweating the cash but 400 bones is a big enough number that it makes it worth consideration.

Yeah I kinda agree really. To be honest I'd vote against the 4k jump altogether, but if he's 100% set on that, I'll go and say that if he's willing to go for something more expensive, maybe the 8GB R290X in Xfire may be the most future proof setup for 4k currently and still cheaper than 980s. Probably slightly slower in some games but once Vram becomes a factor he'll leap ahead in those apps.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...202129&cm_re=r290x_8gb-_-14-202-129-_-Product
 
It's hard to ignore [H]'s review that the 290x Xfire feels smoother @ 4k. If I could handle the heat (which my case most certainly can't) of a custom cooler Xfire system I'd probably do 2x 290x if I was pursuing 4k. I don't remember reading about smoothness issues at lower resolutions though.

Personally I think I'd go for a ROG swift before 4k. With DSR I can't imagine being able to see a higher DPI. Higher Vsync (Gsync) Hz I think I could notice.
 
Personally, I'd choose a 1440p @ 144Hz over 2160p @ 60Hz, especially if looking to get a dual 970/980 setup, and enjoy Adaptive VSync/G-Sync at such high refresh rates.
 
It's hard to ignore [H]'s review that the 290x Xfire feels smoother @ 4k. If I could handle the heat (which my case most certainly can't) of a custom cooler Xfire system I'd probably do 2x 290x if I was pursuing 4k. I don't remember reading about smoothness issues at lower resolutions though.

Personally I think I'd go for a ROG swift before 4k. With DSR I can't imagine being able to see a higher DPI. Higher Vsync (Gsync) Hz I think I could notice.

Thinking of the ROG as well, just never in stock.
 
another vote for a nice g-sync 27+monitor at 120+ fps. With the extra horsepower you could always use nvidias new downsample scaleing whatever that is. And get just as good as 4k. Hell I can't really tell that much of a difference on a small monitor anyways, the big screen tvs is where 4k shines (60+ inch)
 
I could not see myself buying new cards for 4k usage with only 4 gigs of vram.....this much is certain
 
I just can't imagine 4K being that big of a deal on only 28". 4K at 37" or 40" seems like it would be worthwhile.
 
I just can't imagine 4K being that big of a deal on only 28". 4K at 37" or 40" seems like it would be worthwhile.

That and smartphones with 1440p resolution, I even find that overkill for my 27" monitor
 
I was on this same boat but decided against 4k at 60hz and dual 970's will struggle with some games around 25-40fps. I think you'd be happy at 1440p hitting over 60 fps consistently with settings maxed out.
 
I'm about to place the order for the following items.

Acer XB280HK bprz Black 28" 1ms 4K Widescreen LED Backlight G-sync
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009658

and

2x MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G GeForce GTX 970 for SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832

I'm not really concerned about the money as I am the performance. What do you think?

I play COD, Diablo 3 and whatever else comes along.

I actually own this monitor with my system specs noted in my sig. For gaming, I think with my lowly GTX 760, I utilize the G-Sync functionality pretty well. I do have to lower my game settings to Ultra in Heroes Of The Storm from Extreme to hit an average FPS of 45. So I think a single GTX 970 should do fine let alone dual GTX 970s. Not sure about COD though.

One thing I noticed using blur busters was that I saw between 2-4 of the UFOs on the UFO test. I also had set my desktop DPI to 200% so not sure if that affected the test. I will try again later tonight withe the DPI set to normal (100%).

I also came from an Acer GD235Hz 120Hz monitor so I did notice a difference in "smoothness" between the two. Maybe its because I am using a GTX 760.

Anyway, if you are coming from a 120Hz/144Hz monitor, I'd definitely go with an Asus ROG Swift but if you are coming from a 60Hz monitor, I think you would be happy with the Acer XB280HK. I don't have or ever used an Asus ROG Swift so I don't know if its all its hyped up to be plus with all the negative reviews regarding faulty monitors I'm not sure if its worth the wait. I didn't wait and bit on the XB280HK.

Edit. AA off, V-sync off
 
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4k is amazing, I'm going to guess most of the naysayers haven't tried it.

I think you have a great package. I'd only consider XDMA crossfire as an alternative (not the 980) but then freesync isn't ready so this is your best alternative atm. The 980 isn't worth the premium imo.

You'll have to drop aa in the more demanding games, maybe even some other settings if really demanding, but personally I prefer 4k with low details over e.g. 1080p ultra. The fidelity of the "retina" like display has to be experienced in games to understand.
 
I actually own this monitor with my system specs noted in my sig. For gaming, I think with my lowly GTX 760, I utilize the G-Sync functionality pretty well. I do have to lower my game settings to Ultra in Heroes Of The Storm from Extreme to hit an average FPS of 45. So I think a single GTX 970 should do fine let alone dual GTX 970s. Not sure about COD though.

One thing I noticed using blur busters was that I saw between 2-4 of the UFOs on the UFO test. I also had set my desktop DPI to 200% so not sure if that affected the test. I will try again later tonight withe the DPI set to normal (100%).

I also came from an Acer GD235Hz 120Hz monitor so I did notice a difference in "smoothness" between the two. Maybe its because I am using a GTX 760.

Anyway, if you are coming from a 120Hz/144Hz monitor, I'd definitely go with an Asus ROG Swift but if you are coming from a 60Hz monitor, I think you would be happy with the Acer XB280HK. I don't have or ever used an Asus ROG Swift so I don't know if its all its hyped up to be plus with all the negative reviews regarding faulty monitors I'm not sure if its worth the wait. I didn't wait and bit on the XB280HK.

Edit. AA off, V-sync off

I will be coming from a Samsung S27A950D, which is 120Hz. So not sure how the 60hz will feel in games, but I thought g-sync resolves some of the need for higher refresh rates.

That Acer XB280HK is looking really nice, newegg is about to get acer money if this Asus ROG doesn't come in stock.
 
I will be coming from a Samsung S27A950D, which is 120Hz. So not sure how the 60hz will feel in games, but I thought g-sync resolves some of the need for higher refresh rates.

That Acer XB280HK is looking really nice, newegg is about to get acer money if this Asus ROG doesn't come in stock.

Oh ok, so if you were to get the Asus ROG Swift, you will only be getting G-sync part as an upgrade therefore it may not be worth the premium price as well as the wait time. Otherwise I think its available on MC @ Asus ROG Swift.

All I'm saying is that when I went from a 1080p @ 60Hz to a 1080p @ 120Hz, I recall saying "WOW". I can't say the same going from a 1080p @ 120Hz to a 4K @ 60Hz. Don't get me wrong, the G-sync works, gameplay is smooth like butter. I noticed gameplay being smoother in Batman Arkham Asylum from the 1080p @ 120Hz vs 4K @ 60Hz but thats with a GTX 760 gpu so my system is gimped compared to yours if you have a GTX 970 or better. I think there will be an adjustment period coming from a 120Hz to a 60Hz.

Also, I still experience a stutter here and there but definitely far less than before using the same system specs except monitor.

P.S. I had mine for about a month now.
 
Oh ok, so if you were to get the Asus ROG Swift, you will only be getting G-sync part as an upgrade therefore it may not be worth the premium price as well as the wait time. Otherwise I think its available on MC @ Asus ROG Swift.

All I'm saying is that when I went from a 1080p @ 60Hz to a 1080p @ 120Hz, I recall saying "WOW". I can't say the same going from a 1080p @ 120Hz to a 4K @ 60Hz. Don't get me wrong, the G-sync works, gameplay is smooth like butter. I noticed gameplay being smoother in Batman Arkham Asylum from the 1080p @ 120Hz vs 4K @ 60Hz but thats with a GTX 760 gpu so my system is gimped compared to yours if you have a GTX 970 or better. I think there will be an adjustment period coming from a 120Hz to a 60Hz.

Also, I still experience a stutter here and there but definitely far less than before using the same system specs except monitor.

P.S. I had mine for about a month now.

The ROG Swift would be Gsync 2560x1440 at 144Hz

It definitely is a worthy upgrade.
 
Oh ok, so if you were to get the Asus ROG Swift, you will only be getting G-sync part as an upgrade therefore it may not be worth the premium price as well as the wait time. Otherwise I think its available on MC @ Asus ROG Swift.

All I'm saying is that when I went from a 1080p @ 60Hz to a 1080p @ 120Hz, I recall saying "WOW". I can't say the same going from a 1080p @ 120Hz to a 4K @ 60Hz. Don't get me wrong, the G-sync works, gameplay is smooth like butter. I noticed gameplay being smoother in Batman Arkham Asylum from the 1080p @ 120Hz vs 4K @ 60Hz but thats with a GTX 760 gpu so my system is gimped compared to yours if you have a GTX 970 or better. I think there will be an adjustment period coming from a 120Hz to a 60Hz.

Also, I still experience a stutter here and there but definitely far less than before using the same system specs except monitor.

P.S. I had mine for about a month now.

Pulled the trigger. I ordered the Acer with the 2 970 SLi. I'll post back when they come in on the performance in COD and some of the other games I play.
 
Pulled the trigger. I ordered the Acer with the 2 970 SLi. I'll post back when they come in on the performance in COD and some of the other games I play.

Nice. Interested in hearing your COD performance review.. I want to go 4k as well.. was considering the R9 295x2 as the GPU..

I recently bought a 144hz monitor and Im not sure I would want to game at 60hz again. I guess Ill be on the waiting list for now..
 
Yeah I know but his Samsung is 2560x1440 at 120Hz. Is the 24Hz that big of a difference?

I was just pointing out that you said he will only get Gync but in reality he would be getting Gsync & 144hz. Not just gsync.
 
One thing I noticed using blur busters was that I saw between 2-4 of the UFOs on the UFO test. I also had set my desktop DPI to 200% so not sure if that affected the test. I will try again later tonight withe the DPI set to normal (100%).

So I reran the UFO blur busters test with DPI set at normal and I did not notice any blur.
 
Pulled the trigger. I ordered the Acer with the 2 970 SLi. I'll post back when they come in on the performance in COD and some of the other games I play.

awesome! you'll love it

don't let all the nay-sayers make you second guess your purchase. 4K + gsync is just a whole new level of gaming. the clarity is at a "forget it, don't need AA" level for most people's eyes and g-sync just makes you completely stop staring at your fps counter all game

you stop worrying about pixilation/aliasing and fps/fps dips - you just look at a super crisp image and play. period

and just two 970's is more than enough as shown by hardocp themselves (esp with g-sync) - armchair experts will never get over this "4K takes too much to drive" mentality, it's pointless listening to them.

heck my 3 titans run 4K better than it EVER did on 3440x1440. I could run 150% res scale on this 4K g-sync panel on BF4 ultra and still stay somewhat playable on smaller/less intensive maps. NVidia REALLY improved their drivers for 4K since the first 4K panels hit the market. all old benchmarks are mostly inaccurate representations of 4K performance these days
 
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