The new GLOSSY AH-IPS Dell S2415H

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Finally someone reviewed the new glossy Dell S2415H. You can read it here:
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-s2415h/

Pros:
-Clean, vibrant picture (because of no matte filter distorting the picture, duh)
-Good accurate gamma/colours in multimedia preset
-Good contrast ratio/ black point
-Low input lag (4.8ms, 1/4th of a picture)
-No PWM

Cons:
-Has some overshoot in pixel response time

I will definitely buy and try out this monitor. The previous Dell S2340L had a screen door effect, probably caused by weird pixel structure that made me return it. I hope this monitor doesnt have any issues like that. I use a Acer H226HQL 21.5" monitor right now, which im very happy with except for the small screen size and some response time overshoot (you get used to it).

Please use this thread to share new information about this monitor.
 
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Looks very nice! The S2715H looks nice too, and with DSR on the new NVIDIA cards, the 1080p resolution isn't quite as much of a deal-breaker as it might once have been.

Looking forward to hearing your in-hand impressions.
 
Could it be that the review of the S2415H could apply to the S2715H as well?
 
I got this monitor from Dell a few days ago. The glossy panel is so eye-pleasing at office work and web browsing. There is reflection but nothing serious as long as it's kept away from direct sunlight. The most important feature: it's PWM free. I tested it using the white line image from TFTCentral and a Canon 6D at 1/60 sec shutter speed. Notice the white band is uniform, which indicates NO PWM modulation of the backlight.

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HP's PWM free, 23" Envy is available for 50$ less but offers similar performance and has been available since the beginning of 2014 along with the Acer S236HL which goes on sale for 160$ frequently in the US. The Acer suffers from obvious overshoot ghosting, but it can be reduced via the service menu, though the setting resets every the monitor powers off. Why get excited about the Dell?

Acer S236HLtmj Review

HP Envy 23 Review

I owned the Acer for a few months, it had nearly perfect preset colour accuracy, but could only cover 90% of the sRGB colour space like the rest of the 1080p AH-IPS panels. The frame-less bezel ruined the perceived black depth, but it was nearly glow free and the service menu overdrive settings are more flexible vs. the Dell & HP.
 
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HP's PWM free, 23" Envy is available for 50$ less but offers similar performance and has been available since the beginning of 2014 along with the Acer S236HL which goes on sale for 160$ frequently in the US. The Acer suffers from obvious overshoot ghosting, but it can be reduced via the service menu, though the setting resets every the monitor powers off. Why get excited about the Dell?

Acer S236HLtmj Review

HP Envy 23 Review

I owned the Acer for a few months, it had nearly perfect preset colour accuracy, but could only cover 90% of the sRGB colour space like the rest of the 1080p AH-IPS panels. The frame-less bezel ruined the perceived black depth, but it was nearly glow free and the service menu overdrive settings are more flexible vs. the Dell & HP.

Well, those are both 23" and not 23.8" like the new Dell S2415H and both probably has the same panel as Dell S2340L, that i had issues with (screen door effect). Thats mainly the reason i stayed away and rather decided to go for the Acer H226HQL half a year ago. Im hoping Dell S2415H dont have any weird issues.
 
23 vs 23.8=tiny difference and all monitors suffer can and usually do suffer from uniformity related SDE to a certain degree when viewing greys and light colours.

The reason i mentioned difference in size is because this new Dell clearly has a new panel (i dont care about the extra 0.8"). My worry is with screen door effect, as it was very appearent with the previous Dell S2340L.

What do you mean by uniformity related SDE? On Dell S2340L you could see it allways. I think it has to do with subpixel structure.
 
Is the overshoot better than the S2340L/M? I loved that monitor until all I saw was this weird reverse ghosting in which made me sell my 5 monitors.

That thin bezel was great for this:
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(S2340L and S2340M in which were identical save for an hdmi and dvi port respectably)

Also, shame there's no displayport. I guess this really is aimed at regular consumers.
 
Is the overshoot better than the S2340L/M? I loved that monitor until all I saw was this weird reverse ghosting in which made me sell my 5 monitors.

That thin bezel was great for this:
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(S2340L and S2340M in which were identical save for an hdmi and dvi port respectably)

Also, shame there's no displayport. I guess this really is aimed at regular consumers.

Yeah, its bad there is only HDMI and VGA input. Im sure many noobs mistake monitors for being bad when they use the HDMI input and get a washed out picture, because they are ignorant on the problem of blacklevels being wrong (16-235, instead of the correctly 0-255 on PC). It can also be a pain to get it forced correctly with nvidia control panel. I remember i had to use another tool to get the HDMI to output 0-255 black levels on Dell S2340L.

On the overshoot problem, its possible you could adjust the overdrive agressiveness in service menu. In the review i linked to, they say the overshoot is less than on previous S-models from Dell.
 
It's possible that the S2340L uses BGR pixel layout which effects clarity. The 23.8" panel the P23/2414 uses is BGR while the S2415H is RGB. The S236HL suffers from the same overshoot ghosting as the Dell S2340L while the S2415H and HP have overshoot free overdrive settings.

Once uniformity related SDE is seen and understood, it can not be unseen, so I shall stfu.
 
It's possible that the S2340L uses BGR pixel layout which effects clarity. The 23.8" panel the P23/2414 uses is BGR while the S2415H is RGB. The S236HL suffers from the same overshoot ghosting as the Dell S2340L while the S2415H and HP have overshoot free overdrive settings.

Once uniformity related SDE is seen and understood, it can not be unseen, so I shall stfu.

Am thinking of getting one as a second monitor for #1 I love glossy screens and their clarity. #2 apparently decent black level (even though I imagine far off from my current Eizo fg2421's contrast). and #3 AH-IPS? So should have better colors and screen uniformity than my current Eizo fg2421. I wonder how much the 60hz would bother me coming from a constantly 120hz monitor :_)
 
i like the look of the HP Envy 23 with the white stand, will both these be similar in response times in games.
 
I got this monitor from Dell a few days ago. The glossy panel is so eye-pleasing at office work and web browsing. There is reflection but nothing serious as long as it's kept away from direct sunlight. The most important feature: it's PWM free. I tested it using the white line image from TFTCentral and a Canon 6D at 1/60 sec shutter speed.


ISO, Aperture?
 
Am thinking of getting one as a second monitor for #1 I love glossy screens and their clarity. #2 apparently decent black level (even though I imagine far off from my current Eizo fg2421's contrast). and #3 AH-IPS? So should have better colors and screen uniformity than my current Eizo fg2421. I wonder how much the 60hz would bother me coming from a constantly 120hz monitor :_)

Most 60hz monitors can be overclocked to over 70hz. Im sporting 72hz on mine right now, it makes a significant difference IMO.
 
Yeah, it's new so I wouldn't expect Amazon to be selling it directly just yet. Seems like they always have some sort of delay.
 
there's a link in the first post to a review...
 
Picked one up from BB last week, specifically for my PS4.

Looks great in terms of color and motion, but I felt it could produce enough detail to images compared to my other TN panel. Wish it did, I'd keep it.
 
Picked one up from BB last week, specifically for my PS4.

Looks great in terms of color and motion, but I felt it could produce enough detail to images compared to my other TN panel. Wish it did, I'd keep it.

You mean it didn't produce enough detail to images? What do you mean? Also are the blacks better than on your other TN panel (btw what is the model of the TN you are speaking of).
 
I got this monitor from Dell a few days ago. The glossy panel is so eye-pleasing at office work and web browsing. There is reflection but nothing serious as long as it's kept away from direct sunlight. The most important feature: it's PWM free. I tested it using the white line image from TFTCentral and a Canon 6D at 1/60 sec shutter speed. Notice the white band is uniform, which indicates NO PWM modulation of the backlight.
I have copied questions from other topics, but feedback from real owner is very interesting for me:
1. Have you noticed any backlight bleed?
2. How bad is the IPS glow?
3. Do you have any eyestrain or anything unusual after switching to these Dells?
4. What's the lowest brightness on these? Do you think it would be OK for a dark room?
5. How is it colorwise, everything OK, no color tint?
6. Is there a noticeable fading, whitish?
7. What is the build quality and materials? Is there a backlash and squeaks?
 
I am curious how this compares to the P2414H and the U2414H. Outside of this screen being glossy, it seems in many ways worse. Price seems to go for about the same on sale as the P2414H and only $60 more for the U2414H. Both the P2414H and U2414H have more ports and height adjustable stand. Any price advantage the S2414H may have goes out the window if you bought an HDMI switcher and a VESA stand for it. You also get the Premium Panel Guarantee with the P2414H and U2414H unlike the S2414H.
 
All right, i have had the monitor for several days now and i can honestly say its not a good screen. Compared to my 21.5" glossy screen, subjective picture quality is worse. The picture looks a bit washed out, which i find interesting considering black point is very similar between the two (mind you i had the right black levels 0-255 on the S2515H). It could be caused by the aggressive white glow that was expected moving from a 21.5" to 24" screen. One other thing i noticed is that there seem to be some kind of hazy filter in the glossy coating that affects PQ in a bad way. Up close picture of pixels would probably reveal this if you compared to a clean glossy monitor.

Dont get me wrong, there are probably many people that would be happy with this screen, but that has to do with most peoples low standards for PQ. Honestly, even my 21.5" acer glossy screen that i am happy with looks like crap compared to OLED screens. I think im just gonna wait for OLED monitors to arrive and not waste my time with LCD monitors anymore.
 
All right, i have had the monitor for several days now and i can honestly say its not a good screen. Compared to my 21.5" glossy screen, subjective picture quality is worse. The picture looks a bit washed out, which i find interesting considering black point is very similar between the two (mind you i had the right black levels 0-255 on the S2515H). It could be caused by the aggressive white glow that was expected moving from a 21.5" to 24" screen. One other thing i noticed is that there seem to be some kind of hazy filter in the glossy coating that affects PQ in a bad way. Up close picture of pixels would probably reveal this if you compared to a clean glossy monitor.

Dont get me wrong, there are probably many people that would be happy with this screen, but that has to do with most peoples low standards for PQ. Honestly, even my 21.5" acer glossy screen that i am happy with looks like crap compared to OLED screens. I think im just gonna wait for OLED monitors to arrive and not waste my time with LCD monitors anymore.

What was your 21.5 inch screen Acer model for reference?
 
All right, i have had the monitor for several days now and i can honestly say its not a good screen. Compared to my 21.5" glossy screen, subjective picture quality is worse. The picture looks a bit washed out, which i find interesting considering black point is very similar between the two (mind you i had the right black levels 0-255 on the S2515H). It could be caused by the aggressive white glow that was expected moving from a 21.5" to 24" screen. One other thing i noticed is that there seem to be some kind of hazy filter in the glossy coating that affects PQ in a bad way. Up close picture of pixels would probably reveal this if you compared to a clean glossy monitor.

Dont get me wrong, there are probably many people that would be happy with this screen, but that has to do with most peoples low standards for PQ. Honestly, even my 21.5" acer glossy screen that i am happy with looks like crap compared to OLED screens. I think im just gonna wait for OLED monitors to arrive and not waste my time with LCD monitors anymore.

Sounds like you might be seeing more obvious IPS glow. This is the very reason I hate IPS (compared to VA) as I like big monitors! I've actually seen this Dell myself and it is fully glossy. Has an AR coat but no AG/matteness at all. I think it's just the glow you're seeing though.
 
Sounds like you might be seeing more obvious IPS glow. This is the very reason I hate IPS (compared to VA) as I like big monitors! I've actually seen this Dell myself and it is fully glossy. Has an AR coat but no AG/matteness at all. I think it's just the glow you're seeing though.

I agree, I have a qnix qx2710 and even the minimal blb on the bottom left and right corners bothers me greatly, especially with the low black levels. The colors on the IPS are great, however the overall IQ is much lesser than that of my Eizo fg2421 with the great, almost plasma like black levels and great motion control. Only thing I would personally change on this monitor would be to go full glossy, even if the current light ar coating on it has no matte effect but just a slight blur on pixels which is only noticeable when looking at the monitor from very close up.
 
What was your 21.5 inch screen Acer model for reference?

Acer H226HQL. I can definitely recommend it, as it is the best subjective PQ ive seen on an LCD-screen.

Sounds like you might be seeing more obvious IPS glow. This is the very reason I hate IPS (compared to VA) as I like big monitors! I've actually seen this Dell myself and it is fully glossy. Has an AR coat but no AG/matteness at all. I think it's just the glow you're seeing though.

Well, all i can say it seemed kind of hazy, not as clear as my Acer H226HQL. Its possible the dirtyness could just be the increased PPI. Its funny, i seem to have forgotten how bad the PPI is at 24" with 1080p. 21.5" is just a tad too small, but at least i get a very nice PPI. :)

That and the washed out picture made me return it.
 
Acer H226HQL. I can definitely recommend it, as it is the best subjective PQ ive seen on an LCD-screen.



Well, all i can say it seemed kind of hazy, not as clear as my Acer H226HQL. Its possible the dirtyness could just be the increased PPI. Its funny, i seem to have forgotten how bad the PPI is at 24" with 1080p. 21.5" is just a tad too small, but at least i get a very nice PPI. :)

That and the washed out picture made me return it.

I totally agree about PPI. I can't imagine how some people do 1080p on a 27 inch monitor. To have a decent image you have to move the screen away from your face, defeating the purpose of having a larger monitor display (as long as you are not trying to share the monitor with other people sitting at the same desk). I would love to have my eizo fg2421 actually be 21 inches instead of 23.5 for that extra PPI density that would make every oh so nice and sharp from up close.
 
The review is quite positive. Is there other glossy 1080p monitors that might be better in terms of picture quality?

I'm currently waiting for it to arrive at the stores nearby, no way I'm getting another monitor without seeing it in person.
 
The review is quite positive. Is there other glossy 1080p monitors that might be better in terms of picture quality?

I'm currently waiting for it to arrive at the stores nearby, no way I'm getting another monitor without seeing it in person.

Acer H226HQL 21.5" is the best glossy screen ive tested and the one i use. You get alot less white glow and much better pixel pitch with a 21.5" compared to 24" @ 1080p.
 
I agree, I have a qnix qx2710 and even the minimal blb on the bottom left and right corners bothers me greatly, especially with the low black levels. The colors on the IPS are great, however the overall IQ is much lesser than that of my Eizo fg2421 with the great, almost plasma like black levels and great motion control. Only thing I would personally change on this monitor would be to go full glossy, even if the current light ar coating on it has no matte effect but just a slight blur on pixels which is only noticeable when looking at the monitor from very close up.

Its strange because I bought a FG2421 recently and the image quality on it was poor, other than a load of other problems it had, the colors and contrast on it did not look as good as my TV which has 2700:1 contrast vs the Eizo 5000:1 contrast, the one I received the colors were rubbish and everything looked washed out even though the blacks were black everything else looked washed out and the colors were nowhere near as good as my Sony TV or NEC 20wgx2 monitor, not sure if they are all like that or if mine was particularly bad.
 
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that looks nice. im ordering this lets see how it turns out.

edit: decided not to go for it after reading some user reviews. o well. maybe there is another decent glossy ips out there somewhere.
 
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I didn't like it either. Looked completely washed out to me in store and the black was really poor even in daylight.
Tried connecting through vga - no change.

My s27a950d looked so much better, with inky blacks and punchy yet accurate enough colors.

The only good thing I noticed about it - it could display all white levels in lagom test, which was as well noted in the review.

Well, I guess IPS monitors aren't suitable for anything other than critical color work. :D
 
ive got this monitor it is fantastic colors are great and not washed out. the only issue i have is with some light bleed on the right corner.
 
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