Audioengine A2+ vs M-audio AV40 : who give more deep bass ?

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Im interested to know between Audioengine A2+ and AV40 who give more bass and who give the deeper bass.
I'll use the monitor speaker specially for games and films, little music, what is your advises ?
Answer me please :)
 
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Without a subwoofer, you will never get even halfway-decent bass. This is just the laws of physics, a bigger speaker is required to make low-frequency sound waves. Buy either one, and add a sub.
 
i am not a fan of "strong" bass, and usually i play with low / mid-low volume

your talk is even valid ?
 
i am not a fan of "strong" bass, and usually i play with low / mid-low volume

your talk is even valid ?

AVT is right - you simply won't get great bass from either speaker. The AV40 due to the larger size of the woofer and enclosure will have more bass. With that being said, I'd buy the AudioEngine A2+ if you listen at low-mid volumes, because its a higher quality product. If you need more bass, just buy a used subwoofer and connect it to the A2+.
 
if you listen at low-mid volumes, because its a higher quality product.
Is it not the reverse ?
A bigger speaker at lower volume not should response better for bass ( or i should call mid-bass at this point ) ?

Subwoofer of M-Audio or Audioengine is much expensive :(
 
The Audioengine A2+ has a -2dB point of 65Hz.
The AV40s response is quoted as 85Hz, I assume this is -3dB
Neither can do deep bass, the Audioengine has for sure the lowest response.

For deep bass with these speakers you will need a subwoofer.
Inescapable.
 
its not a question of budget, the limit is the space on my desk.

i cant positions monitor over 4" or 4.5" woofer ( and even so its already at the limit )
 
monitors will not give you the bass you are looking for unless you have a subwoofer. my advice is to ditch those options (crappy options, i must say) and get a KRK Rokit RP5. You will be able to find a used pair for $150. It has more bass than all the other 5" active monitors I've tried. if that's too big for your desk space, you're pretty much out of luck. You can get a pair of monitor stands too.

but honestly, unless you're gonna do audio work or will be installing acoustic panels in your room, it won't be worth it. especially without proper room acoustics, a pair of monitors is useless (if you're trying to do precision audio production). if you're looking for heavy bass, you WILL regret dumping money on a pair of monitors.

monitors are highly overrated for home-use. you don't need flat frequency response when watching movies.
 
monitors are highly overrated for home-use. you don't need flat frequency response when watching movies.

I disagree. My JBL LSR305's provide more than adequate bass for my needs, plus they get loud. The clarity/ detail has improved my enjoyment of games, movies and music. I've actually been startled by the detail and imaging of these speakers. I would buy them again in a heart-beat.

Most high-end home-theater speakers also strive for flat response.

if you're looking for heavy bass, you WILL regret dumping money on a pair of monitors.

Depends on the size of the monitor, but that's moot for the TC. LOL.
 
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I'm really happy with my sp2500. Still great bass and little desk space used. The sub is pretty big though.
 
Not only will larger woofers give you more bass capability, they are also typically more efficient.
 
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Good bass is that which the music produces (be it high or low), with less phase smear, well timed and of adequate level but with relatively flat response (ie no bumps in the response).

Low response wont help if the music doesnt use it.
But there are some cues in deeper bass that you may not pick up on if you dont have good depth, so it can be helpful where you think it might not.
ie the clack sound of an instrument being used or lower harmonics of multiple tones.
Low is not very descriptive when making definitive statements though.

My speakers are very good to 25Hz but I still come across some tones on the occasional track that are a little under powered because they are too low (ie 22Hz on Tron Legacy 'Solar Sailor').
For those I have hooked a sub up with a modded lower cutoff to suit, but I hardly ever use the sub because its not needed most of the time.

How you set the speakers up and position them can affect the quality/strength of bass as much as changing speakers.
Where you want to put the speakers AND where you sit will affect the bass you perceive a lot, its very possible where you want to put them or where you sit can ruin the bass response.
Be prepared to shift your room round if you want your hifi to sound its best.
 
I disagree. My JBL LSR305's provide more than adequate bass for my needs, plus they get loud. The clarity/ detail has improved my enjoyment of games, movies and music. I've actually been startled by the detail and imaging of these speakers. I would buy them again in a heart-beat.

Most high-end home-theater speakers also strive for flat response.



Depends on the size of the monitor, but that's moot for the TC. LOL.
Another vote for the JBL LSR305's. They're definitely a step (or two) above speakers typically marketed for the PC.
 
Klipsch Promedia 2.1

Or build a bucket sub and select the bookshelves of your choice
 
Klipsch Promedia 2.1

Personally I think the Audioengine A2+ is and upgrade over the Promedia 2.1

In doing a frequency response test, the Promedia tweeter couldn't handle 90 dB output sweep and kept cutting out, the A2 did it just fine.

With the small subwoofer, the Promedia will give more base VOLUME, but that is about it. The A2+ will actually go just as deep (though not as loud), and sound better also.

I cannot really comment on the sp2500, but seems ok for the price.

If you want good quality (but at a higher price) maybe look at the Blue Sky eXo2.
 
Personally I think the Audioengine A2+ is and upgrade over the Promedia 2.1

In doing a frequency response test, the Promedia tweeter couldn't handle 90 dB output sweep and kept cutting out, the A2 did it just fine.

With the small subwoofer, the Promedia will give more base VOLUME, but that is about it. The A2+ will actually go just as deep (though not as loud), and sound better also.

I cannot really comment on the sp2500, but seems ok for the price.

If you want good quality (but at a higher price) maybe look at the Blue Sky eXo2.
Can you explain me better these phrase ?
 
You can add a sub to any speaker as long as the lowest setting of the subs high cutoff is at or below the lowest cutoff of the speakers.
In other words, as long as the subs high f output isnt forced to overlap with the lower bass of the speaker, it will work.
Also be sure the sub goes deep enough (some subs dont even reach 25Hz) and has enough power/output to cope with the level you play at.

Because my speakers reach down to 25Hz at around -3dB, I couldnt use my sub with them because the lowest the high cutoff of the sub would go was 40Hz,
So I modded the subs high cutoff filter to 25Hz.
Mine is more of an extreme situ though, most speakers wont go so low.
Most speakers can be easily matched with a sub without doing mods.
 
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my audioengines dont really need a subwoofer though, plenty of bass.. obviously not the same as having a sub but I like them by themselves thats why I bought em
 
for gaming ? good or decent ?

great. I got them on massdrop for 299.

to be honest theyre a little pricey, usually most people will recommend an amp and non-powered bookshelf speakers but my desk is crowded enough and I already have and amp and dac for my heaphones. So I liked these.
 
great. I got them on massdrop for 299.

to be honest theyre a little pricey, usually most people will recommend an amp and non-powered bookshelf speakers but my desk is crowded enough and I already have and amp and dac for my heaphones. So I liked these.

also without subwoofer ?
 
Is the a2+ really that much better than the a2? I just want speakers without other bloat on the desk.
 
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