Silverstone FT05 | CES 2014

Regarding fan choice in the FT05, I like to share more of our thought process:

AP182 is an excellent fan that was designed primarily as a retail fan for upgrades. It had speed range greater than AP181 to satisfy customers that needed either lower speed for even quieter builds or higher speed for those requiring more performance headroom. But it was also very expensive (for perspective, the cost of AP181 at the OEM level is 3 times that of average 120mm case fans, and AP182 is nearly 3 times more than AP181!) so we didn't envision including this fan in our cases as standard equipment until the opportunity came about when we were developing the FT04. With a price tag that is going to be more than $200, we felt the same as many of you do now that a case at this price level should have premium fans. So we happily included it in the FT04 and hoped that the extra flexibility and quality of AP182 can bring more positive response from everyone that tried it.

Unfortunately the reality after we started selling FT04 was that very few people could appreciate AP182 as used in the FT04 because most do not have system hot enough to take advantage of the extra performance headroom. If you look at all the available online FT04 reviews, you'll see that only a few sites managed to uncover its cooling potential. In fact, AP182's air pressure and air flow at maximum speed is so forceful that it affected lesser CPU or GPU fans to actually perform worse. Even those with systems that had one powerful GPU may not see better temperatures when running AP182 up to maximum speed. Though variable fan speed controllers were included, few bothered or had the time to test out speeds in between minimum and maximum setting to find more optimum performance/noise for their system. In the end, the general consensus was that AP182, and thus FT04 as a whole, are unnecessarily loud with little performance gain to be worth the price.

So with this experience in mind, and after finalizing the design of FT05 with all costs factored in, we felt AP181 was the better choice this time around. First, it let us achieve price level that will open up the case to more potential customers and second, we will likely receive better consensus review in regards to performance/noise level than before because AP181's max speed of 1200rpm is better balanced for the majority of systems people will use. I am also quite confident that almost everyone here at Hardforum looking to buy FT05 will not be disappointed by the case's air cooling performance (unless you are running 3-way graphics cards)!
 
The high flow mesh used in the RV04/FT04 is more fragile so we've decided not to use it in RV05/FT05 because users lifting the case may accidentally puncture them. This is not a problem in RV04/FT04 because the filters are behind a front door. RV05/FT05 instead has our "ultra fine" filter that is used in our retail FF123 and FF143 fan filters. These are more restrictive than high flow filters, but still very good and is much stronger.

The FF142 uses the older standard mesh (same as the ones used in FT02), so no, it is different from the FF143.

Thank you for the information Tony, that's very helpful!

Would you happen to know how restrictive the ultra-fine mesh in the FF143 is compared to the older mesh in the FF142? Thanks!
 
Thank you for the thorough explanation Tony. I think I will just buy an FT05 and keeps the fans as is after reading your post.
 
I have just order an FT02 after reading all these explanations on the FT04 and the FT05 :D
 
i have an ft02, and the only thing i want to know is when will the FT05 be on sale in the UK?
 
Anyone know when this ft05 coming out?Would the silver comes out the same time as black?Got a new antec p100 and it feel so cheap,was gonna pull the trigger for nzxt h440 but the airflow and theme sucked..Apparently so many companies coming out with stupid concepts.Silverstone making to many htpc cases the should make FT02-e. Evolution version...
 
We will aim to launch FT05 with both silver and black color versions at the same time.
 
I've had both the FT01 and now the FT02 and I would love to get my hands on the FT05. Awesome cases. Just wish it would get released already.
 
Nice [H] review of the RV05. Looks like a new air-cooling champion. SPCR also came out with a very positive review. Hardware Canucks... not so much but they never tested the build for noise or heat.
 
Sorry to disappoint you, but FT05 will also have 2 x 3.5" slots (and 2 x 2.5" slots) just like the RV05. We consider ourselves one of the best in designing case to utilize space effectively (lots of experience with SFF and HTPC cases) so please believe me that there isn't room for additional 3.5" slots unless we compromise space for other components.

A two-drive restriction is understandable if the end user wishes to double or triple GPU- they'd not fit together. For a dude like me that will always be single-GPU, would Silverstone consider or allow ordering of a second cage or a replacement drive cage that doubles the drive capacity out into the open PCIe space? I think I could hack this design as-is to add the extra two drives but I'd rather order it from SS.
 
I emailed asking for an update. This is what I got:

Unfortunately I was just informed by my headquarters that we have had a slight pushback in the mass production of the Silver version of the FT05.

Because we want to release both the Black and Silver version of the case at the same time, our first complete shipment has been pushed back until what looks like the week of September 22nd.

It does look as though we will be receiving a small quantity of the Silver without window, and Black with window during the week of the September 15th. If you are interested in these two variations, please let me know and I can reference you to one of our resellers who can create a special order for them once they come.

I do apologize for the delays, and appreciate your patience in getting the best possible product for you.

Thank you

Best Regards


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It's finally on Silverstone's website with some better looking pics.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=522

I'm guessing the September 22 date someone listed before is about right. With the Raven RVZ-01 and RV05 launches, they put it on the website first then launched a couple weeks later.

I've noticed a couple interesting differences between this and the RV05 (other than the styling of course).

First, it looks like Silverstone has lined the case with sound absorption material. They also put the stuff on the stand underneath the case near the intake fans, I'm guessing to eliminate some of the noise reflecting off the aluminum stand underneath and radiating outward.

Second, the FT05 has a different placement of the fan speed selector switch. Silverstone placed them next to the USB3 ports for convenience instead of requiring to remove the top panel like the RV05.

Third, the slide out fan filter slides out to the side, not the front like the RV05. This is a minor difference and doesn't affect functionality.

It's a beauty though. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
 
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Assume I am going to purchase two next gen Maxwell cards and SLI them. I have an FT01 right now. I probably would buy whatever power supply is necessary to support the dual Maxwell configuration. I am thinking two GTX980. Is this case better for that type of configuration than the FT02? I want quiet performance but I also want significant GPU cooling.

I also use one solid state drive and one regular hard drive but might possibly require a third drive in the future for mass storage.
 
Assume I am going to purchase two next gen Maxwell cards and SLI them. I have an FT01 right now. I probably would buy whatever power supply is necessary to support the dual Maxwell configuration. I am thinking two GTX980. Is this case better for that type of configuration than the FT02? I want quiet performance but I also want significant GPU cooling.

I also use one solid state drive and one regular hard drive but might possibly require a third drive in the future for mass storage.
This case will have amazing cooling configuration just like the FT02 did. The massive 180mm fans are directly in front of the GPU's with nothing impeding or heating up the airflow. However, this case will be a more minimal case versus the FT02.

The case has an identical internal layout to the RV05. 2x3.5" hard drive bays located directly below the PSU mount, and 2x2.5" ssd bays behind the motherboard.

If you need more than 2x3.5" bays, mod this case or get a larger model like the FT02. As far as modding to fit more drives, you could make a mount directly the motherboard below the RAM if you didn't have a watercooling radiator mounted there.

If you need a PSU longer than 7" (usually the more powerful 1000+ watt PSU's), you can remove the hard drive cage and run without 3.5" drives, mod the drives to fit elsewhere, or get a larger model like the FT02.

Since the internals will be identical to the RV05, judge the FT05 based on the RV05 reviews.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...5_rotated_computer_case_review/4#.VBIHuPnxprY
 
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The internals of the FT05 have been modified from the RV05.
How so?

The pics on Silverstone's website make it appear almost exactly the same internally as the RV05.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=522

The only thing I see different is the shape of the bracket at the bottom/behind of the motherboard tray (near the optical disc tray) where wires would be routed, which happens to be the same part [H] complained about during the RV05 review. Maybe that is improved.

Other than that, the placement of parts inside the case and the internal volume looke exactly the same as the RV05. This looks like the same situation they had with the FT02 vs the RV02...nearly identical internals, different external styling.
 
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Modified doesn't mean radical change, but changes were made.

Hi guys, here is a little update to some of the adjustments we made prior to FT05's production: - Tighter window mount on side windowed version compared to first run of RV05 - Additional cable management hole on the motherboard tray - Revised bottom panel to better fit sound dampening foam - Stronger I/O door mechanism
 
So this case has a smaller footprint than FT02? It is tempting, but I have a lot of storage needs so FT02 is probably the better choice.

I like my FT01 but I'm concerned it doesn't cool the GPU's enough for SLI.
 
Why did they have to leave that god awful looking bright silver band around the black version of the case?
 
Modified doesn't mean radical change, but changes were made.
Good to know. Thanks for pointing those out. It looks like the cable management is improved.

So this case has a smaller footprint than FT02? It is tempting, but I have a lot of storage needs so FT02 is probably the better choice.

I like my FT01 but I'm concerned it doesn't cool the GPU's enough for SLI.
If you need lots of storage space, the FT02 is a much better choice.

Why did they have to leave that god awful looking bright silver band around the black version of the case?
Don't know, but at least it can be fixed cheaply. Buy the case, spend $10 on some painter's masking tape and a can of good spraypaint. Fixed.
 
Why did they have to leave that god awful looking bright silver band around the black version of the case?

That acrylic mirror trim is the same on both black and silver FT05. I think our art designer exaggerated the effect of that trim against white background a bit too much for the black FT05 on our product page. In real life, it is noticeably more subtle unless your room has all white walls with studio lighting. To get a feel of how this acrylic reacts in different lighting condition, you can also check out the Milo ML02 slim HTPC case, which uses the same material on its front panel.

Update 2014/09/22
A Chinese review of FT05 is now up, they have some really good photos of the case so you can see another perspective on how the trim looks around the FT05.
 
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Tony, would you happen to know when this case will be available in US or North America?

Been waiting for this for ages, and while Sept 22nd has come and passed, I don't see the ft05 anywhere on Newegg, Amazon, or the other typical channels
 
Tony, would you happen to know when this case will be available in US or North America?

Been waiting for this for ages, and while Sept 22nd has come and passed, I don't see the ft05 anywhere on Newegg, Amazon, or the other typical channels

From what I can see, the initial shipment of FT05 should have already arrived at our US office. So we should be seeing them for sale soon. If you really want to know which stores will have it first, maybe you should give our US colleagues a call.
 
do you guys think a mATX board would look silly in a case this big? I don't see a reason to get an ATX board for only one GPU
 
given the lack of decent mATX cases in the last year, and the fact that it is pretty compact, i'd say go for it.
 
Tony, would you happen to know when this case will be available in US or North America?

Been waiting for this for ages, and while Sept 22nd has come and passed, I don't see the ft05 anywhere on Newegg, Amazon, or the other typical channels
The only places I've seen in North America currently carrying it is Performance-pcs.com and Frozencpu.com (link above). They have extremely limited stock of all 4. Black with and without window, and Silver with and without window.
-edit- The black versions are sold out and now on pre-order/backorder status at Performance-PCs. No idea how they sourced these considering no one else has them yet. AFAIK, they have 1 each in stock.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/silv...um-full-tower-chassis-with-window-silver.html

do you guys think a mATX board would look silly in a case this big? I don't see a reason to get an ATX board for only one GPU
The case is smaller than you think, especially considering the lack of 5.25" bays.

I don't think its silly at all. In fact, with the 3 leftover PCI slots, you can modify them and install other things besides expansion cards. The case is lacking 5.25" bays and has extremely limited hard drive expansion. You could put a fan controller there, extra SSD/HDD mounts (1. or 2.), extra USB ports, light switches, brackets to mount a water pump/reservoir, etc. Possibilities are endless.
 
Almost considered it for my new build, but:

Limitation of CPU cooler: 162mm
Noctua NH-D15 height: 165 mm

Back to FT02B then...

EDIT: the guy who wrote the Techspot's review was kind to check and
The Noctua NH-D15 does fit but it touches the window in the case door. So if you don't mind that then it is fine.
The windowless version should have slightly more room so it might not even touch the door. That said there will be more foam but it still should fit.
 
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Why not buy a diff CPU cooler that will fit? I love how compact the FT05 is. Finally time to retire my FT02.
 
Can you fit a 2x180mm radiator on the bottom in a similar way its been done in the FT-02? Or a 360mm radiator with the adapters that were shipped with the FT-02?

How much room is there? HDD cage and that Optical Drive Mount could be removed.

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