You can disable bloat since 2011 Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.x. Just go to App Manager and click disable next to the app and all disabled apps show up under Turned Off page if you want to reenable them for any reason.
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Galaxy Note 4
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You can disable bloat since 2011 Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.x. Just go to App Manager and click disable next to the app and all disabled apps show up under Turned Off page if you want to reenable them for any reason.
AT&T includes nearly 25 pre-installed apps, of which roughly 20 are of no use to me and were swiftly uninstalled
that's straight quote from review by android central
i think they meant UNINSTALL completely, not just disabled
Disable is not the same as uninstalling
Makeroflostsouls
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Hate I have to wait a damn extra week to get this phone damn Verizon.
I never understood why people post about rooting just to uninstall bloat. Unless the App is tied to the OEM layer or the OS itself you can remove anything. Its been this way since 2012.
Many carrier based apps would not let you uninstall them.
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On sprint there are many things I cannot uninstall. You can uninstall the updates, lol but not the entire app. Is there something I am missing?
last phone i got from at&t was Note 2 and i could not remove jack shit only disable
On my Note 3 the only stuff I had to disable was Samsung branded app's, which were tied to the OEM layer.
None of the ATT stuff still exists on my phone.
I'm reading soem reviews, and it's nice to see that people are starting to wake up to several facts about android and samsung
1. Split-screen feature is the most useful and unique feature on samsung and android devices currently. I would argue it is the most important tool on android since froyo. People like to crap on touchwiz, but wait until split screen will be baked into every app on android. It is such a game changer in terms of efficiency and user experience that I don't think I would be able to buy a phone outside of android once it's fully baked in.
2. reviewers who are iphone users in real life finally admitting that samoled > *. Sure, some will argue that OLED's white reproduction is worse than LCD's blacks, but when it comes down to how smartphones are used today you cannot find better overall screen technology, period.
1. Split-screen feature is the most useful and unique feature on samsung and android devices currently. I would argue it is the most important tool on android since froyo. People like to crap on touchwiz, but wait until split screen will be baked into every app on android. It is such a game changer in terms of efficiency and user experience that I don't think I would be able to buy a phone outside of android once it's fully baked in.
2. reviewers who are iphone users in real life finally admitting that samoled > *. Sure, some will argue that OLED's white reproduction is worse than LCD's blacks, but when it comes down to how smartphones are used today you cannot find better overall screen technology, period.
I know anandtech sold out to Apple but can't they be a little more subtle about it?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/10
iOS 8 polished? It's a laggy bugfest with WIFI, bluetooth, virtual keyboard, screen rotation, battery life, etc. issues and for those that mistakenly took the upgrade.
Equal? The authority on display testing says otherwise.
http://displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Not according to an unbiased authority on mobile battery testing.
http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3
Talk Time
Note 4 28:34h
iPhone 6+ 23:49h
Web Browsing
Note 4 10:44h
iPhone 6+ 9:05h
Video Playback
Note 4 17:25h
iPhone 6+ 11:15h
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/10
iOS 8 polished? It's a laggy bugfest with WIFI, bluetooth, virtual keyboard, screen rotation, battery life, etc. issues and for those that mistakenly took the upgrade.
Equal? The authority on display testing says otherwise.
http://displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Not according to an unbiased authority on mobile battery testing.
http://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3
Talk Time
Note 4 28:34h
iPhone 6+ 23:49h
Web Browsing
Note 4 10:44h
iPhone 6+ 9:05h
Video Playback
Note 4 17:25h
iPhone 6+ 11:15h
NoOther
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First off, there is nothing "broken" about the product. It works perfectly fine with what it comes with. Secondly, I am not removing everything, I am simply using a different mod. My buying a Samsung phone does not at all say I am in love with TouchWiz. What it says is I appreciate Samsung products. What do you say to all the people that buy iPhones for no other reason than their buddies did, or its popular? They are supporting the hype train of Apple and saying their products are better with no real objectiveness.
If we went by your philosophy we would all be constantly switching companies and products all the time until there were no new products to switch to. Every product and company has some kind of issue. The better way to reach a company is to buy their product and if you really don't like a feature get a bunch of other like minded individuals and collectively send a petition to the company for change.
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Last I checked you don't need to root to remove TouchWiz. Simply install another app like Nova or similar. That will replace TouchWiz without requiring root...?
So CHANG 2D, Sprint has the best service and coverage, One M8 is so premium that it ranks below iPhone 6+ for bendability and uh a Foxconn connector is a semiconductor or electronic component? Did I get that right?
Umm, no, TW is a whole lot more than just the launcher. I don't know how many times I have to say that...
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Isn't most of the complaints stemmed from the launcher itself which drains performance?
http://www.samsung.com/uk/mobileappsandservices/touchwiz.html
TW is "the user interface" and what exactly defines that and what does Nova change? What am I missing when you say its more than the launcher?
No one but you call a connector a semiconductor, so stop attributing your own stupidity to others. And, yes, Foxconn is an electronic manufacturer; once again, it's you who seem to believe that the only electronic component is a semiconductor, so if anyone else suggests that something else is an electronic component, it's somehow a semiconductor... So, yes, you got it right that your own stupidity is asinine and why no one should ever read your bullshit.So CHANG 2D, Sprint has the best service and coverage, One M8 is so premium that it ranks below iPhone 6+ for bendability and uh a Foxconn connector is a semiconductor or electronic component? Did I get that right?
And no one had ever said Sprint has the best coverage... Truly, it hasn't been uttered by anyone. With my employee discount, Verizon is technically cheaper for me in a 4 phone family plan, but no thanks; I'll avoid giving money to an evil corporation for as long as possible. If I could stop giving money to comcast, I would too.
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your own quote talks about TW is a task manager. TW also controls the settings. And even if you do just install another launcher, TW will still run in the background, for task managing, background tasks, and control the settings. TW will continue to lag your phone, taking up memory space, until you get rid of it completely by installing a custom rom, which you're not going to be able to for a long time. Is TW completely unusable? No, but neither is iOS, and I would say iOS is far smoother and more intuitive than TW, whereas AOSP/Google Now and Sense 5/6 is better than iOS.
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But here's the thing: you're rooting the phone to get away from TouchWiz. For you, the device is broken, because you don't like the very core of its software experience. I would be just as critical of someone who keeps buying iPhones despite disliking the interface... don't reward behaviour you don't like simply because you can't resist a brand name or sweet-sounding specifications.
And no, my philosophy wouldn't result in a merry-go-round. The market likely has an overall preference, and certain companies simply do a better job than others. Every OS has its flaws, but some are more flawed than others... or at least, rub certain people the wrong way. If you're genuinely opposed to using TouchWiz, don't buy a phone that comes with TouchWiz; and if it only has minor quirks, then why not use it?
As for feedback... I wouldn't use a petition. Find out the company's actual feedback process and go that route, and if it doesn't have a feedback option, vote with your dollar. Buying the company's products and then hoping it'll maybe, kinda, eventually consider a petition is not really an effective way to produce change.
CHANG 2 D you grasping at chopsticks. That what UI layer do on top of Android which is Linux. Can kill processes from command-line without TW UI.
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Incorrect. Currently I am using TW with no issues on my Note 3. So you strike out again. And just because I want to change some software on a device in no way makes that device broken. How many times do people have to keep telling you that before you stop trying to spread the same drivel? Also TW is only a mod for Android. I have no issues with the Android system running on great hardware. So yet again, your points really are not valid when trying to declare it "broken". There is nothing "broken" about it. I would say Apple not allowing mods to their phone is more broken than anything Samsung does with TW.
Yes it most certainly would, because you keep insisting that "1" component of a device, in this case TW makes the entire device broken and therefore you should completely change manufacturers and go to a completely different one just because of TW. If one continued to change companies because of one aspect, they would have to perform the "merry go round" routine as you call it.
Also, why would I limit myself to using a phone with inferior hardware, when all I have to do is a few simple steps in order to make my experience better with the phone I like? Your arguments make absolutely no sense.
Because petitions make a difference for company's more so than just the feedback process. I never said to avoid the feedback process, I just said signing a petition with a large number of people would have a greater effect than just ditching the company to go to another one. If you just bought a different phone only because of TW, what does Samsung get out of that? Nothing, they have no idea why you got a different phone, it could have been hardware, maybe you didn't like Android, maybe it was the carrier, could have been any number of reasons. And if only one component was bad and otherwise you like everything the company has done, why would you hamstring them but not buying something? Essentially by choosing not to buy it, you are now reducing their budget to fix things. When you could buy the phone, make a simple change yourself, give feedback and sign a petition to change the thing you don't like.
Touchwiz isn't just a graphical feature. Everything in the background is still running
You may change the lockscreen and the app launcher on the home screen but everything else will be the same
Another topic where you don't know what you're talking about again. We're not talking about just another task manager to monitor/kill tasks. We're talking about the system task manager where it manages the tasks and activities stack. One example of what it does is know which tasks to dump from memory when memory is low.
Not saying that TW's implementation of the system task manager is awful; the awful part is TW itself taking so much memory that it's hard to multitask, having to dump out other apps when there's so much of TW that is gimmicky if not completely useless. This is proven by a result benchmark on how many apps you can load on a HTC One M8 vs Samsung GS5 at the same time and the loading time of the apps. One M8 finishes a lot faster than the GS5 did.
http://youtu.be/nCln9_mgZJo?list=UUhYU73igK5wQhWAXPh3X8PA
(just ignore the iPhone part of this)
If they replicate this test with Google Now Launcher installed on GS5 on top of TW, GS5 would likely be even slower due to Google Now will also be using that memory.
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So I walk into BB to do some final testing between my iPhone 5S and the N4.
I took a few shots of the store and focused on objects in the distance.
The N4 color reproduction was more accurate, brighter and true to color than the 5S.
In one shot, I could read the credit card numbers on a banner advertisement hanging from the ceiling with the N4. On the 5S the zoom is limited and and the text wasn't noticeable at all.
Win for N4.
But the best moment was using the S Pen and S Note.
I asked a guy looking at the N4 if he was thinking about buying one, he pointed at his ears and signaled he was deaf.
Then he pointed at the N4 and did a writing gesture, so I opened S Note and gave him the S Pen, and we started communicating by writing on the N4.
The iPhone 6+ I pre-ordered can't do any of those tasks. Of course we could have typed on the Notepad in iOS, but writing out our communication was much more natural and personable. That sold me on the spot.
Oh, and the screen is drool. Awesome phone.
I took a few shots of the store and focused on objects in the distance.
The N4 color reproduction was more accurate, brighter and true to color than the 5S.
In one shot, I could read the credit card numbers on a banner advertisement hanging from the ceiling with the N4. On the 5S the zoom is limited and and the text wasn't noticeable at all.
Win for N4.
But the best moment was using the S Pen and S Note.
I asked a guy looking at the N4 if he was thinking about buying one, he pointed at his ears and signaled he was deaf.
Then he pointed at the N4 and did a writing gesture, so I opened S Note and gave him the S Pen, and we started communicating by writing on the N4.
The iPhone 6+ I pre-ordered can't do any of those tasks. Of course we could have typed on the Notepad in iOS, but writing out our communication was much more natural and personable. That sold me on the spot.
Oh, and the screen is drool. Awesome phone.
Why do so many people have this misconception?
Settings, dialer, contacts, messages, notifications, mem manager, background tasks, TW framework, just some of the many things related to TW that have nothing to do with the launcher.
A TW Rom is ~1.2GB
A AOSP Rom is ~300MB
Do you think the launcher makes up that difference?
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Yeah, I've got Nova Launcher but still have to see disgusting shit like the TouchWiz dialer.
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The dialer is irritating since Google's dialer does some data-driven caller ID magic....does touchwiz have a similar feature yet?
Can anyone test what the sequential transfer rate via cable to the SD card is?
Older phones had a puny 10-13MB/s write even if the microSD could do a lot more.
The Note3 could do 40-50MB/s based on a youtube video I saw.
Not sure what a Note 4 going back to USB2 could do.
Older phones had a puny 10-13MB/s write even if the microSD could do a lot more.
The Note3 could do 40-50MB/s based on a youtube video I saw.
Not sure what a Note 4 going back to USB2 could do.
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LOL, I was just going to post the same thing.... I think dude is a bit misinformed.
The single usb port is the only hard point to connect to the pc. I transfer stuff to my sd card all the time using the usb 3 connection to my pc.
And to the person asking the question, usb 2 typical data transfer did around 40 mbs, but unless you enabled usb3 each time you were actually transferring at usb2 speeds.
USB3 isn't enabled by default on the note 3.
got my note 4 today. coming from note 3. im not wow like i was going from note 2 to note 3.
only thing that impresses me is the camera. just my 8 hours of having the phone.
being able to put notes with the s pen on the home screen actually has me using the s pen for the first time ever. i never really used it in the note 2 and 3.
oh and my 4g lte i can get 45Mbs down and 26 up now. my note 3 i was only able to do 15Mbs.
i think i had a bad radio.
only thing that impresses me is the camera. just my 8 hours of having the phone.
being able to put notes with the s pen on the home screen actually has me using the s pen for the first time ever. i never really used it in the note 2 and 3.
oh and my 4g lte i can get 45Mbs down and 26 up now. my note 3 i was only able to do 15Mbs.
i think i had a bad radio.
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Let me get this straight... you just yank out the pen and write on the screen anywhere and it works??
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PS - With those other two guys banned, anyone else notice how slow this forum now is?? LOL
I went to best buy to pickup a N4 today as they had only one pre-order and were sure they would get a box of 50 or more. Turns out they only had one shipped to them. Going to hold out a week or so in case I find stock, otherwise trading in my old phone for a free Galaxy S5. The N4 does look pretty sweet though...
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LOL... almost had me going there. Saw N4 and thought Nexus 4.