The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

I had no problem going from P55 to X99. Just booted in windows, did some reconfiguring and installed drivers for motherboard. Everything is running fine.
 
Those Crucial DDR4 DIMMS that have no heat spreader on them are readily available... If you can't stand to not have green stock looking RAM, just buy a heat spreader off ebay for next to nothing, and bam... you can get a great set of RAM that looks good too at a great price compared to all other kits right now.

I just got the 32GB kit and will put these on them:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-DDR-DD...506?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a13d2e812
 
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I was thinking about doing this too cbutters, but was worried that the additional thickness of DDR4 modules might make those heatspreaders not fit correctly.
The PCB spec increased from 1.0mm to 1.2mm, and the IC thickness also increased by .1mm (so .2mm if double sided ram).

Let us know how it works out for you!
 
Zoson said:
I was thinking about doing this too cbutters, but was worried that the additional thickness of DDR4 modules might make those heatspreaders not fit correctly.
The PCB spec increased from 1.0mm to 1.2mm, and the IC thickness also increased by .1mm (so .2mm if double sided ram).

Let us know how it works out for you!
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Oh snap didn't realize this.... I'll have to see if a little bending makes it fit correctly, in my experience, the clips on heat spreaders are pretty malleable, so I think it will be fine. I'll let you know.
 
Really hating the lack of DDR4 available.

It's funny that I have over $500 worth of new water cooling parts coming, a third Titan on the way, a 5820K and 5960X sitting here in front of me (I'll have to pick one), am looking get a $400-$500 X99 motherboard, yet I cannot seem to stomach paying $400-$450 for 32GB of value RAM. And then if I want "good" RAM, it's like $600+. It's just a tough pill to swallow when you've got ultimate DDR3 ram like this set going for less than the value stuff.
 
blade52x said:
Really hating the lack of DDR4 available.

It's funny that I have over $500 worth of new water cooling parts coming, a third Titan on the way, a 5820K and 5960X sitting here in front of me (I'll have to pick one), am looking get a $400-$500 X99 motherboard, yet I cannot seem to stomach paying $400-$450 for 32GB of value RAM. And then if I want "good" RAM, it's like $600+. It's just a tough pill to swallow when you've got ultimate DDR3 ram like this set going for less than the value stuff.
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I know how you feel, although I also remember when 1MB RAM modules cost more than $125 ea.
 
blade52x said:
Really hating the lack of DDR4 available.

It's funny that I have over $500 worth of new water cooling parts coming, a third Titan on the way, a 5820K and 5960X sitting here in front of me (I'll have to pick one), am looking get a $400-$500 X99 motherboard, yet I cannot seem to stomach paying $400-$450 for 32GB of value RAM. And then if I want "good" RAM, it's like $600+. It's just a tough pill to swallow when you've got ultimate DDR3 ram like this set going for less than the value stuff.
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The G.Skill set in my sig overclocked to 2666 no problem. Even if it didn't overclock at all it's not like there's any performance need for > 2400.
 
i've been having a hard time with haswell-e, hah. i really want to keep the 5960x i got on sale. do i need it? nope, not at all. but i surely want the thing. trying to tell myself i'll be just as well off with the 5820k, but it hasn't been working. oh well.

probably wait to see what happens with the micro atx boards. i'd like to see a gene from asus before i do anything more. not trusting evga or asrock with this one.
 
tacos4me said:
probably wait to see what happens with the micro atx boards. i'd like to see a gene from asus before i do anything more. not trusting evga or asrock with this one.
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Then you are going to continue waiting. Asus is not releasing a gene and if they do, it will be sometime next year.

From MarshallR@ASUS on the rog forums.
I can say in 2014 there certainly won't be any more ROG boards. Apart from X99-A and Pro launching by ~Oct, we are researching what TUF users will need for a possible Sabertooth X99 late in Q4, but so far that's it.

During 2015 - when the X99 market size potentially increases as price of DDR4 and some new components come down - I guess we will re-evaluate adding Formula/Gene/BE boards to the lineup.
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tonyftw said:
Then you are going to continue waiting. Asus is not releasing a gene and if they do, it will be sometime next year.

From MarshallR@ASUS on the rog forums.
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yeah, i saw that. figured i'd hold out for a bit and wait for the next bit of news on something. probably end up grabbing an x99 deluxe if there aren't any other matx boards out by november. hopefully ddr4 prices will have normalized a bit as well.
 
crappy overclock here on a 5930,
can't go over 4.2GHz and my corsair overclock the BCLK to go higher than 2200MHz that is something that I don't like.
 
Today newegg got a 4x8gb Corsair LPX 2666MHz 16-18-18-35 kit in stock. For those of you who were waiting on the ballisix because of height tolerance, now's your chance to snag some good ram that will physically fit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233712
Only thing is... it's >$200 more expensive. I'll finally be building my x99 system this weekend after over a month of having all the parts except the ram!!!
 
First OC test run
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Stress testing with 1GB ram when you have 64GB doesn't prove stability at all. Test with the maximum viable problem set size: 9216MB.
You should be pushing >300GFlops with that chip at that speed.
 
I bought in. Or rather I convinced my girlfriend to buy one. She was planning to build a photoshop/3dstudio/premiere computer, so it fit perfectly.

got her a 5820k.
waiting for the watercooling equipment before overclocking, but I'll post up benchmarks once I do.
 
Wouldn't be worth scrapping/selling my 4930k setup for a 5960x setup? Ignore the cost factor, thanks. Two 980s going in. I game at 1080p up to 4k.
 
What's a typical OC for a 5820K? I am starting to think about upgrading (though dat DD4 pricing, dayum) and right now I am rolling with a 920 at roughly 4 GHz. What kind of performance gain am I going to be looking at with an OCed Haswell?
 
If you're going for 100% stability 4.2-4.3GHz.
If you're looking for 'bench stable' you'll do 4.5-4.6GHz.
 
Zoson said:
If you're going for 100% stability 4.2-4.3GHz.
If you're looking for 'bench stable' you'll do 4.5-4.6GHz.
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Thanks! Follow-up question: Rough estimate of performance increase %? It seems hard to find clock-for-clock comparisons.
 
sblantipodi said:
at 4.2GHz you get a 16% performance increase. more or less.
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So clock-for-clock there is really not much difference between a i7 920 and a 5820K? That seems pretty disappointing.

EDIT: Unless you mean just overclocking the 5820K from stock, in which case my question was more related to what I have currently versus the 5820K (sorry if that was confusing).
 
Intel sent two photographers to my apartment yesterday and they took a bunch of pics of my rig! :D They're gonna show up on Intel's instagram feed!
 
MavericK96 said:
So clock-for-clock there is really not much difference between a i7 920 and a 5820K? That seems pretty disappointing.

EDIT: Unless you mean just overclocking the 5820K from stock, in which case my question was more related to what I have currently versus the 5820K (sorry if that was confusing).
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I was referring at performance improvements over stock frequency.
Haswell-E will give you a very significant performance improvement over i7 920 at same frequency.
 
I tried running LinX 0.65 to see what all the fuss was about, and in the first 10 seconds it hovered around 60C. I was like "oh, this isn't that bad". And then all of a sudden all my CPU cores showed 90-100C, and then my computer turned off (overcurrent protection on motherboard shut it down). This was at 4.5ghz 1.3v, but on custom water. The water in my loop was not very warm either. Someone else on OCN said they throttled (also on water) and were getting power draw readings above 400W.

So yeah, I'm not doing that again! :p
 
blade52x said:
I tried running LinX 0.65 to see what all the fuss was about, and in the first 10 seconds it hovered around 60C. I was like "oh, this isn't that bad". And then all of a sudden all my CPU cores showed 90-100C, and then my computer turned off (overcurrent protection on motherboard shut it down). This was at 4.5ghz 1.3v, but on custom water. The water in my loop was not very warm either. Someone else on OCN said they throttled (also on water) and were getting power draw readings above 400W.

So yeah, I'm not doing that again! :p
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You mean like this?




If you're too lazy to do that math, that's my CPU going +440W from idle to P95 smallFFT. If I throw in Furmark it jumps to over 1000W total, and my UPS starts beeping because it exceeds its max wattage :)

That 11C temperature tho
:D
 
FIVR really was a poor decision for heat reasons... basically adds ~10C in temperature. The issue is that we're trying to cool such a small device. Previously that heat load was on the motherboard and we could cool it separately.

Honestly, I tried a 4.6GHz overclock that passed realbench, but it wouldn't do x264 encoding while playing a game. Dropped to the 4.4GHz linx stable overclock and i'm golden.

Needs more voltage for 4.4GHz linx stable than 4.6GHz realbench stable.
 
Zoson said:
Honestly, I tried a 4.6GHz overclock that passed realbench, but it wouldn't do x264 encoding while playing a game. Dropped to the 4.4GHz linx stable overclock and i'm golden.
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Same for me. I've found 4.5ghz passed stability tests overnight at 1.25v and 4.6ghz at 1.29v, but would crash once in a while. I backed off to 4.4ghz and been solid since. But I'm not running LinX. I tried once and it tripped over current protection on my board while temperatures soared to 100C.
 
blade52x said:
Same for me. I've found 4.5ghz passed stability tests overnight at 1.25v and 4.6ghz at 1.29v, but would crash once in a while. I backed off to 4.4ghz and been solid since. But I'm not running LinX. I tried once and it tripped over current protection on my board while temperatures soared to 100C.
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LinX and Prime95 28.x is very hard to pass.
What testing software are you using to say "solid" ?
 
sblantipodi said:
LinX and Prime95 28.x is very hard to pass.
What testing software are you using to say "solid" ?
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Event Viewer and making sure no WHEA related errors or warnings are showing up over. Those are the ones that show your system to be unstable, but will not crash it. Until you get the bad one (like error 124 that cannot be corrected) It's very useful because when you look into the details of these errors you can look up the vendor ID, and then match the last 4 digits with device manager, and find out exactly where it is coming from. ;)

Stability tests (not P95 or LinX with AVX2) = the obvious and get into the ball park
Normal use and event viewer = the less obvious and will let you know if you are "solid"

Certain errors and warnings are overclocking related, while others are driver related.

With that said, it feels good to be temperature limited again! I haven't been temperature limited since the Q6600!
 
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After messing with settings over the last few days I've gotten to a stable for video and batch photo processing 4.6ghz @ 1.295v cooling with a H100i. Tried LinX and temps get to be too high at 4.6ghz but are acceptable at 4.4ghz.
 
After much tinkering around. I have found that running at 4.3GHz with a voltage setting of 1.3 works perfectly. Anything higher, the system becomes unstable.
 
The Cobra said:
After much tinkering around. I have found that running at 4.3GHz with a voltage setting of 1.3 works perfectly. Anything higher, the system becomes unstable.
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same with my 5930K, I like to run everything on my system, powerviruses too, IBT, LinX, Prime95 and this is the only config that is a setit and forget it.

I also preferred to lower the RAM frequency.
My Corsair Vengeance LPX 2800 are able of 3000MHz 16-18-18-36-2T @ 1.35V or 2666MHz 13-14-14-28-1T @ 1.35V.

I choosed the 2666MHz, it performs better, it requires less VCSSA and it works great.
 
MavericK96 said:
So clock-for-clock there is really not much difference between a i7 920 and a 5820K? That seems pretty disappointing.

EDIT: Unless you mean just overclocking the 5820K from stock, in which case my question was more related to what I have currently versus the 5820K (sorry if that was confusing).
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If the P6T supports Xeons, which I think it does, you may be better getting one of the cheap 6 core xeons for X58 on ebay.

Here is Anandtech's link comparing the 5820k to the 990x. The newer stuff is better, but not THAT much better (in these examples at least).

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/444?vs=1320
 
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