Affordable Vizio 4K Ultra High Def TV Now Available

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Vizio, the Dollar General of affordable television screens, has announced the availability of what the company promised back in January at CES: affordable 4K UHD LCD TV. The 50” P-Series pricing starts at just $1K.

The new sets have a native refresh rate of 240Hz, as well as a simulated “Clear Action Rate” of 960Hz if you’re really into the soap-opera effect. To handle all that motion processing and 4K content, the P-series is driven by six processing cores: A quad-core GPU and a dual-core CPU.
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It might just run Crysis! (At 1080). ;)
If I had $2k just laying around for the 70", I'd get one.
 
Betaboy1983 said:
It might just run Crysis! (At 1080). ;)
If I had $2k just laying around for the 70", I'd get one.
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$2.5k

That said I must be scared but $2.5k for a 70" 4K TV just makes me think it will have some serious design flaw. That's a super good price.
 
^^^^
Or maybe the big brand companies are just ripping us off as they always do with new tech..
 
I've had a 42" plasma from them since 2007 and it still works really well. I'd buy one.
 
4k TV's are really coming down was in Best Buy over they weekend and they had a 50 or 55inch samsung for 1500 bucks. Hell even the OLED 55inch they had as on sale for 3k. Oh did the blacks look good. Can't wait till there main stream.
 
Makeroflostsouls said:
4k TV's are really coming down was in Best Buy over they weekend and they had a 50 or 55inch samsung for 1500 bucks. Hell even the OLED 55inch they had as on sale for 3k. Oh did the blacks look good. Can't wait till there main stream.
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I didn't realize 2 things.

1. OLED TVs were made at 55"
2. They were only $3000 - seems like a bargain honestly.
 
xJ321x said:
$2.5k

That said I must be scared but $2.5k for a 70" 4K TV just makes me think it will have some serious design flaw. That's a super good price.
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For eight years, we proved without a shadow of a doubt that all of the major LCD manufacturers were price fixing, so people are used to high prices.

They settled with a $1.1 billion fine two years ago, but even once busted they haven't been engaging in a price war with one another, and yet prices have still dropped drastically.
 
I like Vizio as much as any brand, but when I did TV repair work, Vizio's were the most common ones to have board failures, but all brands have trouble.

I've been very happy with the TCL I have currently a 40 inch that's been going strong for over 3 years now.

They also have 4k TV's a 50 inch is going for under 500 bucks on Amazon right now....

http://www.tclusa.com/currentmodels/le50uhde5691/
 
240hz native... where is my 240hz native monitor. W T F
 
Had my 52" LCD Samsung since... 2004-2005.. Not exactly sure. Last year I had to replace some bulging capacitors but it's running great again. I was working great until we had to have someone house sit for us one night. Got home and the TV wouldn't turn on. My theory is she fell asleep on the remote just right and it kept turning on and off or some damn thing. Or, it was just a coincidence and they the capacitors were on the brink of failure. lol Either way, $10 later it's all good.

The only TV I had with a board problem was a Sony 53" projection TV. I decided to throw it in the snow bank and let it rot until spring.
 
I'm still using 3 year old Vizio 55" backlit LED. It's a nice screen. Does have some minor annoyances .. Speakers crackle with certain types of sounds. If using the Hulu or Netflix apps ("VIA Apps"), they'll crash the TV and it goes into full dumbdumb mode for 4 minutes.

So I'd say if you can buy it at Costco (auto 2 year warranty) and/or get the warranty upgrade (+3 years?) it might he worth it for no content that is 4k. Heck, we still don't get 1080p for most things.
 
my living room is too big for these 4k TVs :(
i will have to wait until the 110" version drops down in price.
 
I bought the 2013 model (maybe 2014?) because of the bezel. Didn't care about anything else and it was relatively cheap.
 
Somehow, I don't think that "native refresh rate of 240Hz" really means what everyone wants it to mean. Even the just-finalized Displayport 1.3 won't do 4K at 240Hz.

Going to Vizio's page for these P series TVs, there's a bit about High Velocity Mode which is "for hardcore gamers" and "adjusts your TV's frame rate to enable extreme gaming at an ultra-fast 120 frames per second". This appears to be saying it will take 120Hz from a video source, but at what resolution? Not 4K, that's impossible; maybe 1080p, but I'm suspecting we'll find out it only does 120Hz at 720p.
 
Spidey329 said:
I'm still using 3 year old Vizio 55" backlit LED. It's a nice screen. Does have some minor annoyances .. Speakers crackle with certain types of sounds.
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Wait what... speaker crackle? Its 2014 bro, nobody uses TV speakers. At least get a sound bar w/ wireless subwoofer.
 
See display forum, people already have these P series Vizios and no one has gotten 4k@60hz to work, with 444 color.
 
bexamous said:
See display forum, people already have these P series Vizios and no one has gotten 4k@60hz to work, with 444 color.
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Because they are still mainly a TV? I wouldn't expect these to be the best choices for gaming, even if Vizio mentioned it at their reveal. There is a reason 4k monitors are $900+ compared to $1000 for a 50" TV.
 
Just wait to see this at Costco for $500 in a year or two. The way prices have been falling is crazy.
 
evilsofa said:
Somehow, I don't think that "native refresh rate of 240Hz" really means what everyone wants it to mean. Even the just-finalized Displayport 1.3 won't do 4K at 240Hz.

Going to Vizio's page for these P series TVs, there's a bit about High Velocity Mode which is "for hardcore gamers" and "adjusts your TV's frame rate to enable extreme gaming at an ultra-fast 120 frames per second". This appears to be saying it will take 120Hz from a video source, but at what resolution? Not 4K, that's impossible; maybe 1080p, but I'm suspecting we'll find out it only does 120Hz at 720p.
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The older Seiki 30hz 4k TV's can do real 120hz 1080p. I'm guessing the 'native 240hz' number is BS but I'm still interesting in seeing what these new TVs are actually capable of. 60Hz 4k for $1000 would be great.
 
There's a megathread about these TVs on avsforum. Each of the sizes of the P Series has different panel types and issues. In the last couple of pages, there's a lot of confusion about 60Hz 4K only working in 4:2:2 and not 4:4:4, and discussion about how only LG has 4K 60Hz 4:4:4 working right now. There's also some chatter about 120Hz 1080p.
 
But...but its the future... lol ya right. They want people to get used to fake faster frames yet only movie I know of that was shot with 48 frames was the Hobbit and a lot of people just did not like it because they are not used to it. If the only tv you watched was using smooth motion your entire life then I am sure you would be fine with it but problem is we are all used to the 24 frames for movies, they just need to default it back to normal and have you turn it on if you want smooth motion. I went to someone's house who had it on by default of course and could not stand how it made the old black and white movie Harvey look let alone Netflix content so I turned it off. The tv companies leave it on because it somehow makes it look more 3dish and people are easily wooed when buying a tv.

Megalith said:
Smooth motion should be outlawed.
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Heh. I knew the '240hz' was just "marketing Hz' from a mile away. There's no free lunch.
 
xIronCrossx said:
Because they are still mainly a TV? I wouldn't expect these to be the best choices for gaming, even if Vizio mentioned it at their reveal. There is a reason 4k monitors are $900+ compared to $1000 for a 50" TV.
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Well shit if you don't care about gimped setups, you can get a 4k 50" Seiki for <$500. Why pay $1000?
 
devonhiee said:
Just wait to see this at Costco for $500 in a year or two. The way prices have been falling is crazy.
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That is what I am waiting for......and also 4k content as well. That said, I love my current Vizio LED.
 
xIronCrossx said:
Because they are still mainly a TV? I wouldn't expect these to be the best choices for gaming, even if Vizio mentioned it at their reveal. There is a reason 4k monitors are $900+ compared to $1000 for a 50" TV.
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True, but the reason 4K monitors are $900+ isn't because they have more features or are "better", they're just meant for a different market. I mean the 4K monitors we have now are pretty bad.
 
evilsofa said:
Somehow, I don't think that "native refresh rate of 240Hz" really means what everyone wants it to mean. Even the just-finalized Displayport 1.3 won't do 4K at 240Hz.

Going to Vizio's page for these P series TVs, there's a bit about High Velocity Mode which is "for hardcore gamers" and "adjusts your TV's frame rate to enable extreme gaming at an ultra-fast 120 frames per second". This appears to be saying it will take 120Hz from a video source, but at what resolution? Not 4K, that's impossible; maybe 1080p, but I'm suspecting we'll find out it only does 120Hz at 720p.
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Its likely 120hz will be in 1080p mode. 240hz is just an advertising gimmick. Nothing actually runs at 240hz in a native function for LCD's. Its frame interpolation and its used as a marketing gimmick for ages.

In reality its a 4k 60hz TV with hardware/software to do frame interpolation.
 
xJ321x said:
$2.5k

That said I must be scared but $2.5k for a 70" 4K TV just makes me think it will have some serious design flaw. That's a super good price.
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There are 4k panels and 4k panels. Maybe it will have a crappy contrast and colors compared to the 'real' panels.
 
Godmachine said:
Its likely 120hz will be in 1080p mode. 240hz is just an advertising gimmick. Nothing actually runs at 240hz in a native function for LCD's. Its frame interpolation and its used as a marketing gimmick for ages.

In reality its a 4k 60hz TV with hardware/software to do frame interpolation.
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TVs won't run even a 'real' 120hz usually, they're adding frame doubling to 120hz and interpolation to double that so marketing can use the 240hz.
 
B00nie said:
TVs won't run even a 'real' 120hz usually, they're adding frame doubling to 120hz and interpolation to double that so marketing can use the 240hz.
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That's why this is special. It does have 120hz in the edid. AFAIK it's the first tv to do it (other than that one seiki?).

240hz, otoh, is terrible market-speak. I know Sharp has some 1080p 4ms panels, but still...not a common average pixel refresh/persistence (especially with any kind of quality).

Like you said, for video they take a 24/30fps video source and frame double it to 240fps (since just like 120hz/fps, it is an even or very close multiple of either), you're then limited by refresh rate of the panel, typically somewhere in the 150-165hz range (6-6.5ms), but some are slightly better....some are worse (up to typically 8ms/125hz rated avg, which typically means simply 120hz avg, but perhaps not guarenteed hence they often have 60hz input). This is why some auo/ips are good at motion/blur (closer to 5ms/~180-200hz) than some others like a typical sharp/samsung.

A good way to cut through the bs is look at their super-inflated number many use now.

For instance, LG. '1320' = 165hz (~6ms refresh). 1500 = 187.5hz (5.33_ms).
 
Pretty sure the 240hz panels refers to a strobing backlight with native 120hz panel. Then the 960hz part refers to shortening the pulse duration to reduce retinal persistence with a 25% duty cycle. These are useful features for gaming but they really need the marketing guys to stop blurring the lines between different measurements that all use hz.
 
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