FBI Blasts Apple And Google For Offering Encryption

HardOCP News

[H] News
Joined
Dec 31, 1969
Messages
0
Honestly, did any of you expect any different from the FBI?

"I like and believe very much that we should have to obtain a warrant from an independent judge to be able to take the content of anyone's closet or their smart phone," Comey said. "The notion that someone would market a closet that could never be opened — even if it involves a case involving a child kidnapper and a court order — to me does not make any sense."
 
Hey FBI....just use the NSA description tools, or have them unlock the phone via the password in court.
 
Luckily the market doesn't revolve around what notions make sense to a few people in a cult with special badges and costumes.
 
Yeah, so just make it easier for hackers to obtain information by storing all data unencrypted. Good plan!
 
hey FBI, show us your dirty little secrets, and we'll show you ours.
oh, they're classified? Then my shit is too.
 
Give it a little time, and laws will be passed to force a change in this.

Its inevitable.
 
We obviously need to outlaw closets.

But seriously, if anyone really believes Apple and Google can't decrypt the files, then I have some bridges and prime ocean front property to sell them.
 
There are closets that can't be opened (easily). It's called a vault. That's essentially what encryption is. Not that it can't be opened, just that it isn't easy.
 
Countdown to Icpiper aka NSAspook showing up to tell us it's for our safety and the gov is our best buddy in 3....2....1
 
I read this as:
FBI Director James Comey said:
Gosh darn it! Parallel reconstruction of all the illegally obtained evidence we get from the NSA is going to be a lot harder now that it is all encrypted and we can't explain how we decrypted it in court...
 
It's always about the children...

That's what I thought with the comment
"The notion that someone would market a closet that could never be opened — even if it involves a case involving a child kidnapper and a court order — to me does not make any sense."

No no no... we're not going to say we should be able to get into a phone with a legally rubber stamped court order, but what if there's a child kidnapper! Or worse, a pedophile child trafficking drug smuggling terror cell network!!!! DONT YOU GUYS WANT US TO BE ABLE TO STOP THAT!!!!
 
Saving a kid because they had universal access to all phone would be the outlier.
Trampling the rights and invading the privacy of normal law abiding citizens would be the norm.
 
I'm bored so....

This is all a sham! And the FBI is only making this statement to make you put your guard down.
 
So just because a few people might do something bad they need to have access to everyone's data because we could all be pedophiles or could all kidnap children.

i was unaware that the U.S. was a guilty unless proven innocent country. You know because stuff like due process doesn't matter at all since children could be at stake. What a bunch of hogwash. Apparently the bill of rights is just some old piece of paper that doesn't mean anything because it's expired or something.
 
You do realize that the FBI said Apple and Google can't decrypt user data for the FBI. He didn't say the FBI couldn't decrypt user data. If you think any of your data stored by corporate Amerika is secure, read some of the disclosures from Snowden.
Poor attempt to make the public trust putting their lives on their phones again.
 
Hey FBI....just use the NSA description tools, or have them unlock the phone via the password in court.
A password means they can plead the 5th effectively. Now a key such as a fingerprint can be obtained by court seizure, passwords cannot.
 
that train has long since left the station

not going to unlearn the maths...sorry

To clarify, what I meant (in my rush to post while at work) was that if this proves a real problem in the eyes of the NSA, FBI and other law enforcement, you'll see laws rushed through our government to make this sort of thing illegal to manufacture and sell.

Keep your eyes peeled for a law to get fast tracked that makes encrypted devices like phones illegal, if the NSA decides it "must be". Short of lobbying by some major players, I'd bet it would get passed in no short order, since anything that prevents the NSA/FBI from doing as it damn well pleases must mean you're a terrorist threat. :rolleyes:

At this point our government is well out of control, and there's really nothing to be done, since lobbyists usually buy whatever they want to happen, and the same stupid fuckers with no clue keep getting re-elected to positions of power. Money talks after all.
 
"That ship has sailed".

If the FBI and the rest of the multi-letter groups had behaved, and followed the social compact (that Constitution thing that some folks keep bringing up) and the rule of law, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. But since they can't do things The Right And Legal Way (tm), F'em.

I'd rather ten guilty people go free than one innocent be falsely imprisoned. Since those agencies want to change that to 10000 innocent people getting their rights trampled for one guilty one, we do not see eye-to-eye.

Of course, this could, in the end, all be a conspiracy to make people RELAX about thinking they're safe.... would be simple for Apple and Google to still have a backdoor for the Police to use, but with all the wailing, gnashing of teeth and lamentations, they may just be trying to throw us off track..... </tinfoil hat>
 
I'd rather ten guilty people go free than one innocent be falsely imprisoned. Since those agencies want to change that to 10000 innocent people getting their rights trampled for one guilty one, we do not see eye-to-eye.

Hear, hear,
 
This is just theater to make the proles less paranoid. Apple, Microsoft, and Google have all given the Federal government back doors into all of their products.
 
This is just theater to make the proles less paranoid. Apple, Microsoft, and Google have all given the Federal government back doors into all of their products.

yes but its interesting that there is now a public demand for privacy again
 
Back
Top