The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

i'll be getting the 5960x and 64gb of DDR4 for keyshot and solidworks. It will be a massive upgrade from an i5. Not sure what motherboard to get yet.
 
Fry's has the 5820K for $344 shipped for anyone without a MC nearby. Much better than the $395 and $400 that Amazon and NE are asking for right now.
 
I'll be buying the 5930k to replace my 3930k, luckily I have a Microcenter nearby (Houston). Looking forward to pairing it with an Asus X99 Deluxe and get that thunderbolt card added in.

The only thing that is giving me pause is the memory, I'm a bit worried about buying first run DDR4.
 
Are there any reviews comparing the 5930k +ddr4 Ram to an i5-4670k+ddr3 Ram for gaming purposes @4k ?

Need to know if the new haswell-e's extra cores/threads offer gaming performance to my current i5-4670k or equivelant setup.
 
Your current setup is fine, run it for a little while until the bios's mature and DDR4 speeds ramp up... Early adopters of a whole new platform usually have more headaches to contend with, games are going to get much more threaded in the near future, upgrade when the market has matured a little bit!
 
I just dropped in a new 4790K along with new Asus Hero VII. I don't necessarily have to wait to upgrade as I can flip what I have now and come close to breaking even. But, I kinda want to wait 90 to 180 days for revised boards, updated / mature firmwares and drivers. I may wait, I may not. Depends on a few things.
 
I was wondering if anyone saw any 4930K vs 5930K benchmarks out there?
 
according to a reviewer on youtube the first run of ddr4 is good as all the chips are apparently 3000 spec but just underclocked for the lower priced products. Whilst later on they will likely use lower binned chips that wont overclock much over the rated speeds. Also I expect all motherboard vendors will make their bios compatible with these first run chips whilst later on it will become more of a gamble.
 
Still kicking myself a bit right now for not waiting a year for my new build, I could have got the i7-5920K hexcore for nearly the same price I paid for the i7-4770K last year.

Oh well, I guess I will have to wait for Skylake-E or Cannonlake-E for my next complete build. With Mantle and DX12 coming I guess I can manage on a quad core for some time.
 
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wyqtor said:
Still kicking myself a bit right now for not waiting a year for my new build, I could have got the i7-5820K hexcore for nearly the same price I paid for the i7-4770K last year.

Oh well, I guess I will have to wait for Skylake-E or Cannonlake-E for my next complete build. With Mantle and DX12 coming I guess I can manage on a quad core for some time.
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if you bought it last year no much things to regret.
4770 is still a great CPU for quite everything.
 
So it looks like my 2600k @ 4800mhz strictly for gaming is still not going to be upgraded, one day I will upgrade! Hopefully Skylake will replace it, until then I'll patiently wait for NVidias next round of Video Cards.
 
Looking at reviews, these procs don't really mean anything to gaming. I'm not upgrading. Maybe a new mobo or something. I just don't get on my computer and load a game up and immediately think that I need a new CPU, and dropping $1k+ is what I need... 3-4 fps is a waste of my time...

Please read reviews people... If you have a high end system and proc from the last 2 years, you probably wont see a difference in gaming.
 
The sad thing is hardware is outpacing software as my main game I play is World of Tanks which plans to add Havok engine with in the next update or two.. every other game I play BF 4 /SE 3/War Thunder/Crysis 3 /T R or iRacing sims my x58 can still play them all just fine as I added the Xeon X5660 .. so no upgrade
 
Warrior said:
Please read reviews people... If you have a high end system and proc from the last 2 years, you probably wont see a difference in gaming.
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Even if it improves the fps by 3 or 4 it will be on the high end. The highest fps will be more, which is completely pointless.

I for one not looking only for gaming, I render a lot, and I hate waiting. If I could afford it I'd get xeons with dozens of cores.
 
lutjens said:
There is no harm, financial or otherwise, to Intel that would occur by unlocking the top SKU of Xeons.
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You clearly have never worked in marketing. Xeon has a "brand promise" that included rock-solid stability. Overclocking and stability don't intersect in the mind of a branding person.

HFT shops losing tons of money because of bad math on an overclocked Xeon is pretty much Intel's worst-case nightmare.
 
*foo said:
You clearly have never worked in marketing. Xeon has a "brand promise" that included rock-solid stability. Overclocking and stability don't intersect in the mind of a branding person.

HFT shops losing tons of money because of bad math on an overclocked Xeon is pretty much Intel's worst-case nightmare.
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They seem to have no nightmares with 1366 xeons being ocable.
 
M76 said:
They seem to have no nightmares with 1366 xeons being ocable.
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Which version? Mainstream and high-end Xeon was never overclockable.

There may have been a workstation SKU (like Xeon E5-1600 today) that was basically the Core i7 Extreme SKU with ECC memory that was overclockable. But that is not two-socket Xeon, which is what Lutjens seems to want.

PS: The E5-1600 SKUs are overclockable today too.
 
Now actually on topic - what heatsink are people using for these? A quick scan at Newegg didn't see any listed but I could have missed them....
 
*foo said:
Now actually on topic - what heatsink are people using for these? A quick scan at Newegg didn't see any listed but I could have missed them....
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Don't we just use socket 2011 heatsinks?
 
2011 to 2011-3 sockets are physically all the same. There's only a difference electronically and with the ILM (Independent Loading Mechanism; what is used to hold the processor into place for good contact pretty much).
 
Pulled the trigger on a 5820K, Gigabyte Gaming G1 WIFI, 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 2666, and a Corsair H105 to cool it off with.
 
King Icewind said:
2011 to 2011-3 sockets are physically all the same. There's only a difference electronically and with the ILM (Independent Loading Mechanism; what is used to hold the processor into place for good contact pretty much).
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So are the heatsink mounting holes/dimensions the same? If the ILM is different (I know the load tabs are north/south instead of east/west), the holes could be too...
 
*foo said:
So are the heatsink mounting holes/dimensions the same? If the ILM is different (I know the load tabs are north/south instead of east/west), the holes could be too...
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The LGA2011-V3 socket is compatible with earlier LGA2011 cooling hardware. I'm using my CPU-370 water block with the same mounting hardware for LGA2011 CPUs I've always used.
 
Dan_D said:
The LGA2011-V3 socket is compatible with earlier LGA2011 cooling hardware. I'm using my CPU-370 water block with the same mounting hardware for LGA2011 CPUs I've always used.
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That's interesting and makes for a cheaper upgrade path. I personally see no reason to upgrade my 4.8GHz 3930k, especially after checking out the benchmarks. I think that [H]'s review made the observation that most people are GPU limited right now, not CPU- that's me for sure. I have a 580 GTX and am waiting for the 880 to come out before upgrading- plowing cash into a new platform just doesn't make sense, especially since I'll see zero performance gain until I get a new graphics card.
 
Matt174e said:
5820k for me. I don't plan to ski or crossfire so I doubt I'll need more than 28 lanes.
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Right now I see little point in the 5820. I think you'd do better to go with a 4790k and some fast DDR3 RAM if your going to stick to a single graphics card.
 
Even if that's true. I'd like to have the option to upgrade the CPU to a higher end 8 core down the road. I also really like the MSI gaming 7 Mb.

How many lanes does the 4790k have? A quick google search is telling me 16, but that doesn't seem right...
 
@Matt174e: ALL Sandy/Ivy Bridge/Haswell CPUs have only 16 PCI-E lanes. For Sandy Bridge, the only variants were x16/x0 and x8/x8. Since Ivy Bridge, you can also have x8/x4/x4.

All the remaining PCI-E lanes are 2.0 from PCH (Z97 and others).
 
faugusztin said:
@Matt174e: ALL Sandy/Ivy Bridge/Haswell CPUs have only 16 PCI-E lanes. For Sandy Bridge, the only variants were x16/x0 and x8/x8. Since Ivy Bridge, you can also have x8/x4/x4.

All the remaining PCI-E lanes are 2.0 from PCH (Z97 and others).
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No way a gaming platform for SLI future cards.
 
sblantipodi said:
Are you joking?
I think the opposite, completely.
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For me the biggest draw of the X99 platform is the massive amount of PCI-Express lanes. The 5820K gimps the platform in that regard. Of course I'm always a multiGPU kind of guy so I tend to see these platforms through the eyes of someone planning on stuffing his case with video cards.

Realistically I guess it comes down to budget. A 5820K based system isn't going to perform any better in games than a 4790K based setup with a single graphics card. I'd save the money on the CPU, motherboard and RAM and put that money toward a better graphics card. If the budget isn't of any real concern then it matters less. Now if your doing more with the system than just gaming then obviously that changes the playing field. The 6c/12t of the 5820K could very well be worth while over the 4c/8t of the 4790K.

Another thing to consider is overclocking. I'm not sure what the overclocking headroom is like on the 5820K. So far we aren't getting much out of Haswell-E past 4.5GHz and were seeing more than that on Devil's Canyon. 4.7GHz and better isn't at all uncommon.

So I guess pointless isn't the right word for it.
 
Matt174e said:
Even if that's true. I'd like to have the option to upgrade the CPU to a higher end 8 core down the road. I also really like the MSI gaming 7 Mb.

How many lanes does the 4790k have? A quick google search is telling me 16, but that doesn't seem right...
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Yeah, I can see that as being a draw for some people towards the X99 camp. I just don't tend to work that way. I usually go for either the highest end CPU or the next one down from it if the highest end CPU doesn't offer something more than the one a step below. The 3960X didn't have much on the 3930K so I didn't go for it. I went with the 980X when it offered two more cores and more overclocking headroom than the other 9xx series chips.

I rarely upgrade CPUs usually opting for the highest end CPU at the time I purchase the motherboard. I'm much more likely to replace the motherboard than the CPU down the road. I only replace the CPUs in cases where additional cores are offered since the platform launched or the next iteration of CPUs for that socket offer substantial gains. They usually don't so I rarely bother. I liked the 4930K as an example but didn't think it was worth the cost to upgrade over my overclocked 3930K. The Core i7 980X was a definite jump from the Core i7 920 D0 that preceded it.

I just need more than a 10% CPU speed increase to spend money on another one. Motherboards tend to offer new features or overclocking improvements over their predecessors so again I'm much more likely to upgrade the motherboard and keep the CPU.
 
Dan_D said:
Yeah, I can see that as being a draw for some people towards the X99 camp. I just don't tend to work that way. I usually go for either the highest end CPU or the next one down from it if the highest end CPU doesn't offer something more than the one a step below. The 3960X didn't have much on the 3930K so I didn't go for it. I went with the 980X when it offered two more cores and more overclocking headroom than the other 9xx series chips.

I rarely upgrade CPUs usually opting for the highest end CPU at the time I purchase the motherboard. I'm much more likely to replace the motherboard than the CPU down the road. I only replace the CPUs in cases where additional cores are offered since the platform launched or the next iteration of CPUs for that socket offer substantial gains. They usually don't so I rarely bother. I liked the 4930K as an example but didn't think it was worth the cost to upgrade over my overclocked 3930K. The Core i7 980X was a definite jump from the Core i7 920 D0 that preceded it.

I just need more than a 10% CPU speed increase to spend money on another one. Motherboards tend to offer new features or overclocking improvements over their predecessors so again I'm much more likely to upgrade the motherboard and keep the CPU.
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Newer mobo generally require new CPU to unleash the new features so what is the sense ?
 
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