Time for a new SSD.. Fastest out?

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I think I have gotten enough use out of my Samsun 830 256gb.. looking for something newer as I will move this drive into another rig. Is the 840 Pro still the top dog.. minus the PCI-E versions. Thank you!
 
I believe the Samsung drives still have the lead. That said, I've been using Kingston and Crucial SSDs in new builds lately. They're cheaper and I can't tell the difference between them and my 750 GB Samsung 840 in real-world use.
 
Thx, I will probably grab a 256gb 850 Pro.. lets me pop my 830 into an older rig for a pick me up!
 
Unelss you need more capacity, imo stay with the 830, still a good ssd, and the difference between ssds is very small for the end user. But if you do need more space and want the fastest atm, i would second the 850pro.
 
Meh, getting the fastest SSD is only for epeen purposes for most users here. Capacity over speed is my priority for SSDs.
 
Tsumi said:
Meh, getting the fastest SSD is only for epeen purposes for most users here. Capacity over speed is my priority for SSDs.
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For me Reliability > Capacity > Performance
 
Steady state performance on the 850s look pretty nice, from the reviews I read. You could also consider the Intel DC S3700 if that makes sense to you.

As others have mentioned, the money for an 850 pro vs twice the capacity with something like a Crucial M500/M550/MX100 might not be worth it depending on your actual use case.
 
Got the 850 Pro... bench marks are insane with RAPID on but real world use I feel no difference in the system at all. The 830 holds up just fine against it. This however lets me put my 830 in my older PC. Not worried about Capacity.. have a ton of drives for data storage.. 256 fits me perfectly. For those with the 830 or 840... dont go to the 850 looking for a seat of the pants power difference.. the 830 honestly felt just as quick to me. As always.. thanks or your input guys! I took a long time away from PC hardware.. I got some catching up to do!
 
My expectation

Samsung Pro: Fastest for desktop use
can be in par on high load with others with a manual 10% overprovisioning

Sandisk Extreme Pro
Cheaper, faster than the Samsung but only on heavy load
- mainly due the overprovisioning per default

Intel S3700
If you really need an enterprise SSD with high write performance and low latency even on heavy load
no matter of the cost
 
_Gea said:
My expectation

Samsung Pro: Fastest for desktop use
can be in par on high load with others with a manual 10% overprovisioning

Sandisk Extreme Pro
Cheaper, faster than the Samsung but only on heavy load
- mainly due the overprovisioning per default

Intel S3700
If you really need an enterprise SSD with high write performance and low latency even on heavy load
no matter of the cost
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What about when using RAPID feature on Samsung? Any idea how much that really helps?
 
I just replaced the same drive, 256GB Samsung 830. I didn't go for speed as it was fast enough and now I'll wait for the next interface.

I got a 1TB Crucial M550 because my 256GB was always full and I wanted to be able to put pretty much anything on my SSD without compromise.
 
Aesma said:
I got a 1TB Crucial M550 because my 256GB was always full
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That brings up a good point. For those experiencing less than expected performance after a while of using an SSD, how many have their SSD full or nearly full at that point? It's pretty universally established that SSDs perform best when they are not full. This is why many over-provision but you can simply just leave some free space on the drive too.

Someone going from, for example, a 256GB Samsung 840 that was full to a 1TB Samsung 840 would likely see a decent performance increase, despite the fact that the drives are using the same controllers, etc, simply because SSDs that aren't full are faster.
 
Copyright said:
What about when using RAPID feature on Samsung? Any idea how much that really helps?
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Caveat: Haven't actually owned a Samsung SSD with RAPID, just speculating on my limited understanding of how it works.

RAPID will help with bursts, but won't really do much for sustained heavy writes. The RAM cache will still have to be flushed to disk at some point. What happens when the cache needs to be flushed (because it's nearly full) depends on how smart it is. Hopefully it isn't so naive that it blocks pending writes while flushing, but I would see RAPID at best "degrading" to pure drive performance when the cache is continually overwhelmed.
 
Copyright said:
I think I have gotten enough use out of my Samsun 830 256gb.. looking for something newer as I will move this drive into another rig. Is the 840 Pro still the top dog.. minus the PCI-E versions. Thank you!
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Put a pair of 840's in Raid 0
 
The point of going for the 850pro is the 10 year warranty and essentially never dyeing NAND on it.
 
Trimlock said:
The point of going for the 850pro is the 10 year warranty and essentially never dyeing NAND on it.
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In 10 years is the capacity/speed going to make a difference? If OP is already buying a new SSD, then in 10 years the OP will be 2-3 SSD's down the road.
 
Nathan_P said:
Put a pair of 840's in Raid 0
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Does RST play nice with SSD's in raid now?

SSD's can still fail, it would suck to have one fail in raid0.

I'd probably just opt for raid1, the speeds are insane enough as they are.
 
Well, got a Samsung Evo 840 250gb (Win7 pc) and a Crucial MX100 256gb (Ubuntu laptop) and honestly can't tell the difference, both fly and made pcs that took forever to boot enter the OSes with startup programs in full go in about 10 seconds.
The truly fastest random access read and write is a pci-e like the Plextor m6e (http://www.amazon.com/Plextor-Serie...8&qid=1408085287&sr=8-2&keywords=sandisk+a110), the differences on everything else is negligible.
 
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I'm running 2 ssd's in raid 0 for over 5 years now and not one failure yet.




ep0x73 said:
Does RST play nice with SSD's in raid now?

SSD's can still fail, it would suck to have one fail in raid0.

I'd probably just opt for raid1, the speeds are insane enough as they are.
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Tsumi said:
RAID-0 doesn't help with anything but SSD-SSD transfers. And can hurt OS performance.
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Yeah this isnt exactly true.. Intel actively markets their 730 drives to use in a RAID-0. Tests dont show a huge increase in OS related benchmarks but they certainly don't get worse.
 
diehard said:
Yeah this isnt exactly true.. Intel actively markets their 730 drives to use in a RAID-0. Tests dont show a huge increase in OS related benchmarks but they certainly don't get worse.
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Depending on the drive and raid implementation latency usually slightly increases (causing a small decrease in 4K performance) when you use RAID0. Although the difference may not be noticeable.
 
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diehard said:
Yeah this isnt exactly true.. Intel actively markets their 730 drives to use in a RAID-0. Tests dont show a huge increase in OS related benchmarks but they certainly don't get worse.
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That's why I said can. Whether or not it does really comes down to the RAID controller used.
 
kirbyrj said:
In 10 years is the capacity/speed going to make a difference? If OP is already buying a new SSD, then in 10 years the OP will be 2-3 SSD's down the road.
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Well yes, I have many parts for a computer that has lasted beyond 10 years and they still find uses. I don't think the capacity will make much of a difference in the future, games are getting massive enough where we may have one SSD for the OS and one for games :D.

Performance is even harder to say, we were almost saturated on speed on first gen. Tough to say if we will need more in the future.
 
ep0x73 said:
Does RST play nice with SSD's in raid now?

SSD's can still fail, it would suck to have one fail in raid0.

I'd probably just opt for raid1, the speeds are insane enough as they are.
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If I'm not mistaken, the RST drivers can pass trim to raid0/1 setups on 7 series and newer chipsets.
 
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