ASUS Announces ROG SWIFT PG278Q Premium Gaming Monitor

anyone know if it would be possible to have a 780 running this monitor and a 6990 running 2 side monitors? Think the software/gsync could handle it without freaking out?
 
Not really a comparison. The Swift is all about motion clarity combined with a decent resolution, the Korean IPS panels have horrible motion clarity no matter how high they overclock.
 
bigdano said:
anyone know if it would be possible to have a 780 running this monitor and a 6990 running 2 side monitors? Think the software/gsync could handle it without freaking out?
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sethk said:
No.
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You can't do nvidia surround using GSYNC mixed with regular monitors, but if he means just running them as separate screens for extra desktop it is supported. I run 2X SLI 770s with GSYNC on my upgraded VG248QE while running 4 other monitors running on a 650 and 2 more with my onboard i7 gpu.
 
NickJames said:
Yeah I was kind of dissapointed in that, would have loved to be able to hook my console up to it.
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Same here but then that means a scaler would be involved and that would limit performance.


skuko said:
why would you want to do that? doesn't make any sense lol.
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Convenience. It makes perfect sense. A lot of us use both monitors and TVs for our systems depending on setups.

Imagine someone in a college dorm room as an easy example.
 
skuko said:
why would you want to do that? doesn't make any sense lol.
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Easy access to both? My old setup (before I picked up a Korean) had my Xbox 360 and PC on the same monitor with a XIM3 hooked up. Whenever I wanted to game on my xbox I would just hit my KVM switch and start playing then just toggle back and forth.

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zeroibis said:
Is that an M11x in the bk ground.
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Yes it is, got one of those refurbed like 3 years ago for $400, fucking love that thing. It's been demoted to my PC repair/console modding/experimenting computer though. Still use it once in awhile to play some older games, surprisingly still handles newer stuff pretty well. That entire room setup is pretty old though, took that picture almost 2 years ago. I moved out of that room and into a new setup.
 
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NickJames said:
Easy access to both? My old setup (before I picked up a Korean) had my Xbox 360 and PC on the same monitor with a XIM3 hooked up. Whenever I wanted to game on my xbox I would just hit my KVM switch and start playing then just toggle back and forth.

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that makes sense. what i meant is that it makesno sense to connect a concole to the SWIFT, because the console will not take advantage of ANY of its features.
 
skuko said:
why would you want to do that? doesn't make any sense lol.
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to save space for a start, in my room e.g. I have

pc
xbox360
ps3
android phone with mhl cable for hdmi out

and 2 monitors. one monitor is pc/360 shared other is ps3/phone shared

Having 4 monitors would be ridiculous as well as swapping cables everytime I use a different device.

Likewise most modern tv's now have multiple hdmi inputs.
 
skuko said:
that makes sense. what i meant is that it makesno sense to connect a concole to the SWIFT, because the console will not take advantage of ANY of its features.
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Just to save space really. I wouldn't be buying the monitor to hook up a console, it's primarily for my PC but it would be nice. I hate having to game on a side monitor.
 
You could get a few 'prehensile' ergo monitor arms and flip between two monitors if you managed to set them up well enough. The mx arms have quite a wide range of reach and ability to flip around.
There is also an LX dual monitor mount that might allow you to shuffle some, not sure what it's range is in that regard.

You could also just keep a 1080p monitor on a stand tucked alongside desk with a black towel/soft cover on it and drop it in front of the pc gaming monitor when you wanted to play on console. Tether the power and hdmi together with some black zip ties and/or some of that corrugated plastic cable management tubing. Having the 27" swift on an ergo monitor arm would still be handy in that scenario if you wanted to drop it back more or flip it around backwards, out of the way, etc.
 
NickJames said:
Yeah I was kind of dissapointed in that, would have loved to be able to hook my console up to it.
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Why on Earth would you? Its a 1440 monitor that is purpose built for PC gaming.. you could get a much cheaper 1440p monitor that has multi inputs as well with little input latency for much less than $800..

It would just look bloated and ugly being upscaled from 1080p. Even when space is an issue that's just blowing lots of extra cash really..
 
Godmachine said:
Why on Earth would you? Its a 1440 monitor that is purpose built for PC gaming.. you could get a much cheaper 1440p monitor that has multi inputs as well with little input latency for much less than $800..

It would just look bloated and ugly being upscaled from 1080p. Even when space is an issue that's just blowing lots of extra cash really..
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Not everyone exclusively PC games. I'm a PC gamer and a console gamer so I'm looking for a monitor that has very low input lag that I can use for both. So its not wasting money at all. I will still use the 144hz and 1440p with gsync all the time on PC. He's just saying it would be nice if it had an HDMI port or something
 
kregstrong said:
Not everyone exclusively PC games. I'm a PC gamer and a console gamer so I'm looking for a monitor that has very low input lag that I can use for both. So its not wasting money at all. I will still use the 144hz and 1440p with gsync all the time on PC. He's just saying it would be nice if it had an HDMI port or something
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Exactly. Save money and space. My ASUS VH24H will still be my console monitor I guess.
 
NickJames said:
Exactly. Save money and space. My ASUS VH24H will still be my console monitor I guess.
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Well what I'm gonna do is get a displayport to HDMI adapter and just swap cables when I wanna console game. Might keep my benq as a monitor when I console game on my rog swift cause sometimes I like watching watchespn haha
 
kregstrong said:
Well what I'm gonna do is get a displayport to HDMI adapter and just swap cables when I wanna console game. Might keep my benq as a monitor when I console game on my rog swift cause sometimes I like watching watchespn haha
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Is it possible though? I tried the same with a DVI-HDMI adapter on my Korean display and it came out all warped. I think you would need to buy a switch with built-in scaler to get it down to 1080p.
 
sharknice said:
You can't do nvidia surround using GSYNC mixed with regular monitors, but if he means just running them as separate screens for extra desktop it is supported. I run 2X SLI 770s with GSYNC on my upgraded VG248QE while running 4 other monitors running on a 650 and 2 more with my onboard i7 gpu.
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I have no intention of running 3d surround- I just want my main (center) monitor to run gsync at 144hz.

I use my side monitors to monitor stocks and the news- Never for playing games.

Should that be OK?

Also, what happens if you fuck up and drag a window from your center screen to a right/left screen while its doing 3d? Does that cause shit to go bonkers?
 
kregstrong said:
Not everyone exclusively PC games. I'm a PC gamer and a console gamer so I'm looking for a monitor that has very low input lag that I can use for both. So its not wasting money at all. I will still use the 144hz and 1440p with gsync all the time on PC. He's just saying it would be nice if it had an HDMI port or something
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But this monitor is purpose built JUST for PC gaming. I mean it appeals to a very small segment of users , even more niche than gaming monitors in general.

People who are buying this monitor are not looking for it to have lots of inputs but are in fact buying it for a 1440p 144hz monitor with G-sync. The only reason its gotten any attention is because its a 1440p 144hz G-sync monitor. Considering how bleeding edge it is I think its unreasonable to complain about some minor absences.
 
what happens if someone has 2 pc's to share on one screen.

To me having only one input is pretty silly. it saves what? 5-10 usd of the cost?

So 800usd for a 8bit TN that has only one input. Who here will actually buy one?
 
chrcoluk said:
what happens if someone has 2 pc's to share on one screen.

To me having only one input is pretty silly. it saves what? 5-10 usd of the cost?

So 800usd for a 8bit TN that has only one input. Who here will actually buy one?
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Anyone interested in the first 1440p 144hz G-sync enabled monitor will which is exactly the purpose of this monitor. Its not a monitor built for the masses its a monitor purpose built to demo new technology and only the most niche core gamers will drop $800 on it. Having a few extra inputs may only cost a few dollars but it would have to contain a more complex computer to support the extra inputs (my G-sync DYI kit now makes my monitor DP only so it could be a current limitation of G-sync) so what seems like only a few dollars ends up being around $30 more and since its an already focused market item that ASUS probably makes no money on then why bother?. You are not going to see this monitor commonly on sale at a local retailer and probably infrequently online.

I'm considering buying one because I have the rig to support it.
 
So is ASUS ROG truly 8bit or is it 6bit + dithering? Has a credible or reputable site confirmed that? I read TFT Central review and it didn't mention whether it was 6bit or 8bit.

I am quite impressed with ASUS ROG performance as a purely competitive gaming monitor (not meant to be used to enjoy game graphics) due to G-Sync, ULMB, response time, and input lag. Color accuracy is much better on this monitor than I expected :eek:! It has excellent pre-calibration accuracy that makes sure you don't need to buy yourself a device to run a calibration and you know what you see is close to what it looked like when it was developed/mastered within technological limitations of course. Contrast ratio is way beyond VG248QE in LightBoost/ULMB and it generally excellent for a TN or IPS monitor.

Sure, it has some negatives to it, like being a TN screen, having a pitch-black bezel, low ULMB brightness, and a few others :rolleyes:, but for a TN monitor - what did you expect? I think its an excellent TN screen that competes with some IPS monitors in terms of color accuracy, even though it has a gamma shift problem like all TN panels do :mad:. In the end though, it is probably THE best TN panel out there right now :cool:.

If my gaming life involved a ton of BF4 or some other fact-paced game where I'd completely ignore graphics and sacrifice it for smooth gameplay, then I'd set my eyes on ASUS ROG ;). However, I enjoy eye-candy too much, so anything with a contrast blow 4000:1 is out of the picture. Back to my Half-Life 2 Cinematic Mod (finally in BETA stage!) replay on my trusty and irreplaceable Eizo Foris FG2421 :D:D:D
 
PG278Q owners: how is movie playback? 3:2 pulldown and all the other tricks needed for 60 Hz displays to show 24 FPS content bugs the heck out of me. How does the display handle video and scrolling?
 
MonarchX said:
So is ASUS ROG truly 8bit or is it 6bit + dithering? Has a credible or reputable site confirmed that? I read TFT Central review and it didn't mention whether it was 6bit or 8bit.

I am quite impressed with ASUS ROG performance as a purely competitive gaming monitor (not meant to be used to enjoy game graphics) due to G-Sync, ULMB, response time, and input lag. Color accuracy is much better on this monitor than I expected :eek:! It has excellent pre-calibration accuracy that makes sure you don't need to buy yourself a device to run a calibration and you know what you see is close to what it looked like when it was developed/mastered within technological limitations of course. Contrast ratio is way beyond VG248QE in LightBoost/ULMB and it generally excellent for a TN or IPS monitor.

Sure, it has some negatives to it, like being a TN screen, having a pitch-black bezel, low ULMB brightness, and a few others :rolleyes:, but for a TN monitor - what did you expect? I think its an excellent TN screen that competes with some IPS monitors in terms of color accuracy, even though it has a gamma shift problem like all TN panels do :mad:. In the end though, it is probably THE best TN panel out there right now :cool:.

If my gaming life involved a ton of BF4 or some other fact-paced game where I'd completely ignore graphics and sacrifice it for smooth gameplay, then I'd set my eyes on ASUS ROG ;). However, I enjoy eye-candy too much, so anything with a contrast blow 4000:1 is out of the picture. Back to my Half-Life 2 Cinematic Mod (finally in BETA stage!) replay on my trusty and irreplaceable Eizo Foris FG2421 :D:D:D
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Are you saying you actually have the Swift and still prefer the FG2421?
 
TroyX said:
speaking of being overpriced, I think Eizo FG2421 still holds that crown.
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Probably although if that thing weren't such a risky gamble on panel roulette it would be a lot more forgivable. That monitor could have and should have been a game changer.
 
I guess I should post this again after someone is making claims about graphics and aesthetics not being compromised in highly dynamic FoV motion 1st/3rd person gaming again, and trying to say that this monitor only has twitch gaming advantages.
During FoV movement you aren't even at what can be considered a solid grid resolution, especially when below a 120hz low response tn at decent fps so I find the aesthetic comments hard to take seriously. You don't play a screen shot.

elvn said:
Comixbooks said:
This monitor is designed so you can your K/D ratio improves over people without this monitor in First person shooters. Does that make you a better player =)
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Whether this is marketed as giving an edge in gaming or not, there are huge aesthetic advantages to this monitor in regard to motion and it is the only one to combine such a high level of aesthetic motion advantages and options with 2560x resolution so far. Some game's coding/physics aren't tight enough to gain much if any player performance advantage that the monitor might otherwise give too.

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The first and most obvious is 60hz panels have massive screen blur during your continual movement keying + mouse look flow pathing in 1st and 3rd person games. 120hz TN reduces this blur by 50% so that it is more like a strong soften blur, making your entire viewport of high detail geometry and textures (incl depth via bump mapping as well as other shader effects) "fuzz out".

120hz-144hz (even at 100fps or so) also allows many more game world state action slices show per second which has several aesthetic (and depending on the game, potential performance vs game and/or other players) advantages:
Increased motion defintion, increased motion tracking (seeing more "dots per dotted line path length"), and increased animation definition. These factors create a more refined/articulated and smooth motion of both individual screen elements their individual pathing/paths, their individual animation cycles, and of the entire world moving during continual viewport/player-camera FoV movement.
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Of course this monitor also adds g-sync dyanamic hz option to eliminate screen abberations w/o using v-sync, and downsides of v-sync like frames per second limitations/penalities and added input lag. It also should have a ulmb option (mutually exclusive from the dynamic hz option) that can produce near zero blur similar to the pristine motion clarity of a high end crt on games that get very high fps. All this again on the only 2560x1440 monitor that has all the aformentioned techs by design (and hopefully on panel that has vibrant/saturated color compared to some of the more recent 144hz reportedly pale tns).

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elvn said:
From everything I've read the korean oc ips monitor's response times are slow so they are more toward the 60hz smearing outside of the lines end of the motion clarity "scale". That smearing doesn't just affect individual objects moving on your screen, it smears the entire viewport/game-world during your continual movement keying + mouse looking periods in 1st/3rd person games.
Further down the page in the following link, I borrowed some pictures from blurbusters.com and some eizo advertisement/review that try to show blur amount difference between 60hz, 120hz, and backlight strobing"zero blur" modes.
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So an oc'd ips is more toward the 60hz TN baseline smear blur end of things from what I've read from motion clarity purists in this thread and others, and reviews. On a 120hz TN at high fps you get about 50% blur reduction, at 144hz TN you get about 60% reduction. This results in what is more of a strong soften blur effect, where the screen goes "fuzzy", but more within the "shadow mask"/footprint of onscreen elements. The texture detail and depth via bump mapping, etc is all lost just like you can't read blurry in game text.

Obviously an ips will have more uniform color(no tn shift/ "gradient shadow") and more degrees of color. The asus rog swift seems to be capable of some good color saturation from what's being reported, which was a big concern of mine since several of the newer 120hz-144hz tn monitors have been notably pale lately. I hope the swift can be tweaked for some lush (relatively high vibrancy) color even if not totally uniform nor having the most extreme color pallete size. I'm happy with the color of my samsung A750D 120hz 1080p tn for gaming, but i keep a ips next to it for desktop/apps.
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Sure the eizo VA would be great if it didn't have a panel lottery/issues, wasn't limited to 24" size and 1080p, and would be better with an included g-sync option to go with it's included backlight strobing option. To say there are not huge aesthetic advantages to the motion clarity , motion defintion , g-sync screen abberation elimination, and resolution of this PG278Q monitor and try to dismiss it as merely/supposedly twitch gaming scoring tech is false imo.
 
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TroyX said:
speaking of being overpriced, I think Eizo FG2421 still holds that crown.
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If someone stole my FG2421s and the retail price had suddenly doubled, I'd still rebuy them.
The FG2421 is still in a league of its own in the LCD segment (imo), no new 4k monitors/gsync can come close for gaming/general use, sad to say.

Personal opinion I guess, but I don't see how anything can beat or even match it until gsync/freesync can be combined with strobing or OLED or some other native low persistence tech.

The swift is not a competitor in the strobed monitor segment, it is only an alternative if you want to go cheaper and use gsync with a weaker graphics card, or if you only have one slot for a graphics card for example and can't buy a second even if you wanted to.
 
Morkai said:
If someone stole my FG2421s and the retail price had suddenly doubled, I'd still rebuy them.
The FG2421 is still in a league of its own in the LCD segment (imo), no new 4k monitors/gsync can come close for gaming/general use, sad to say.

Personal opinion I guess, but I don't see how anything can beat or even match it until gsync/freesync can be combined with strobing or OLED or some other native low persistence tech.
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If I had a guarantee I could actually get a good one I'd buy it today without hesitation.
 
Morkai said:
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The swift is not a competitor in the strobed monitor segment, it is only an alternative if you want to go cheaper and use gsync with a weaker graphics card, or if you only have one slot for a graphics card for example and can't buy a second even if you wanted to.
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Or (and/or)... alternative if you want 27" size and 2560x1440 resolution and not limited to 24" diagonal and 1080p with a panel lottery/issues.
Also, setups like dual 780ti's aren't exactly "weak" and even they can't get over 60fps on a few of the most modern games on ultra (at 2560x), and barely get 100fps on many others (at 2560x). So the rez and g-sync could go hand in hand in some scenarios/for some games.

Q-BZ said:
If I had a guarantee I could actually get a good one I'd buy it today without hesitation.
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dat FG2421 panel lottery and/or inherent issues, yeah - huge negative.

Otherwise

a pristine fg2421 VA(24" ,1080p, no g-sync option still being negatives, esp screen size to me)

or PG278Q high quality TN(27" size, 2560x rez, g-sync option included)

...are the highest end 1st/3rd person gaming monitors on the map that I know of until the consumer release of the oculus rift comes out someday (90hz+ OLED w/ some kind of blur elimination/low persistence tech).
 
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