Seriously this generation of consoles bites ass

Comixbooks said:
Destiny is a Half Billion dollar Garbage experiment I bet they are burning disks right now for the landfill and Gamestop employees to scratch.
What I seen in the promo videos and what they pulled off are too different things.
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Huh?
 
Godmachine said:
Xbox One and PS4 have been out less than a year. Not really fair to judge an entire generation of consoles by their first year. They are not discounting the Wii U next year or the year after , not sure where you read that rumor. Nintendo stated over and over again they are sticking with it during E3. They have some pretty great titles coming out soon as well..

The first year of the Xbox 360 was pretty awful , overheating consoles , lots of sub standard games , the blade UI (may it burn in hell).

The first year of the PS3 was also a mess. The cheapest version was still $599 , it has lousy launch titles and crappy games following launch.

Nothing great showed up for either system in the first year.

If you don't want to wait sell your consoles and buy them back 5+ years from now when they have a catalog of games otherwise you'll be miserable until then.
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How in the world you hate blade system. It was quick, and didnt have 70% of screens covered in ads for paying gold memebers.. And then some adds werent even relevant to the system! I laughed my ass off when i turned on the xbox and saw a world of warcraft add!
 
I preferred the blade system, it was simple and streamlined.

The next version and the Xbox One OS seems overly complicated and cluttered. They would be fine for a table top touchscreen or something but it was obvious MS thought the Metro UI would change the world. Every product they have went to that system, and while I can appreciate the need to want to unify the MS ecosystem that is not the way to do it imo.

I swear MS kicked serious ass initially. The 360 hardware, the controller and the OS was just spot on.

Except for Bullet Witch, should have never been released.
 
next-Jin said:
I preferred the blade system, it was simple and streamlined.

The next version and the Xbox One OS seems overly complicated and cluttered. They would be fine for a table top touchscreen or something but it was obvious MS thought the Metro UI would change the world. Every product they have went to that system, and while I can appreciate the need to want to unify the MS ecosystem that is not the way to do it imo.

I swear MS kicked serious ass initially. The 360 hardware, the controller and the OS was just spot on.
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Wholeheartedly agree on all points.
And on that subject, I still don't understand why Sony scrapped the XMB; it was a perfect GUI for a game console. Quick, minimal and inobtrusive yet very well organized.
 
I've been really disappointed with both the Xbox One and PS4. From their GUI, to features, to a lack of "next-gen" games that are truly head and shoulders better than the previous generation.
I'm sure the new games will eventually come, but it feels like the hardware just isn't that great and their UI and feature devs took this one off.
 
Domingo said:
I've been really disappointed with both the Xbox One and PS4. From their GUI, to features, to a lack of "next-gen" games that are truly head and shoulders better than the previous generation.
I'm sure the new games will eventually come, but it feels like the hardware just isn't that great and their UI and feature devs took this one off.
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I think it's because both systems last gen were online and the transition to these are just building on to what they already had. Games were slow to come out in the past and consoles always progress in maturity to where you have a Uncharted vs The Last of Us comparison.

Also the 360 and PS3 were missing a ton of stuff that eventually got out in later for OS features.
 
Still don't see a compelling reason to own either ps4 or xbone..:(
 
I have had my X1 sitting here since November unopened. I'm moving to new place and finally gonna set it up.

I'm also gonna pick up a WiiU for a couple games I want i.e W101 and MK8
 
The last 3 months of PS4 PS+ games have sucked. Thank gawd for the PS3+ games and DLNA and MP3 support :D PS4 has disabilities brah.
 
Zohar78 said:
How in the world you hate blade system. It was quick, and didnt have 70% of screens covered in ads for paying gold memebers.. And then some adds werent even relevant to the system! I laughed my ass off when i turned on the xbox and saw a world of warcraft add!
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Are you fucking kidding me? Lol

It crashed CONSTANTLY , it was slow as fucking hell. The blades DID cover about 80 percent of the screen when they were opened and navigating was utter hell. You know what the single most requested feature was for the Xbox 360 in 2005? Removing the fucking blade UI. You obviously have experienced a totally different UI that must have existed in the Twilight Zone you originate from..

Anyone that liked that total piece of trash UI is cherry coating a dog turd of a memory. At the time it was fucking HATED. I'd rather have one ad once in a while and actually be able to navigate the menu without a crash each time I open it.
 
Godmachine said:
Are you fucking kidding me? Lol

It crashed CONSTANTLY , it was slow as fucking hell. The blades DID cover about 80 percent of the screen when they were opened and navigating was utter hell. You know what the single most requested feature was for the Xbox 360 in 2005? Removing the fucking blade UI. You obviously have experienced a totally different UI that must have existed in the Twilight Zone you originate from..

Anyone that liked that total piece of trash UI is cherry coating a dog turd of a memory. At the time it was fucking HATED. I'd rather have one ad once in a while and actually be able to navigate the menu without a crash each time I open it.
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I didn't mind Blade. Though NXE was by far the best UI for the system. I've never been a fan of the modern "Kinect" UI that the console has.
 
Godmachine said:
Are you fucking kidding me? Lol

It crashed CONSTANTLY , it was slow as fucking hell. The blades DID cover about 80 percent of the screen when they were opened and navigating was utter hell. You know what the single most requested feature was for the Xbox 360 in 2005? Removing the fucking blade UI. You obviously have experienced a totally different UI that must have existed in the Twilight Zone you originate from..

Anyone that liked that total piece of trash UI is cherry coating a dog turd of a memory. At the time it was fucking HATED. I'd rather have one ad once in a while and actually be able to navigate the menu without a crash each time I open it.
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I didn't mind the blades. However back then I think people spent a lot less time in the UI and more time actually playing games. The consoles were much more simple and did a lot less.
 
I also liked the blade system. Fast, easy, and geared around playing games or watching videos. Other than the video streaming apps - who actually uses those other functions? As much as they want us to use Bing, Xbox Twitter, and whatnot it's still 5x easier to just do all of that stuff on your phone.
 
Megalith said:
The problem is that I have a gaming PC. Consoles are never going to be relevant for me.
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I have a gaming PC as well. I play games a lot on it. But, I'm a gamer. I don't limit myself to just one platform. I want to play games. Always have. So, I have a lot of options to play games. Consoles, PC, emulators, handhelds... As a gamer (not console-gamer. Not PC-gamer.), I like my options.

The newer consoles are like the others before them - there isn't a huge library at launch. Sega used that against the SNES back in the Genesis days. Sega was out for a couple years and already had a ton of games compared to SNES's (<10, IIRC).

If you don't like the games that are out - don't buy the system. Easy peasy. If there is a game you want in the future, it'd be awesome if the price of the console has dropped. Bonus for you. Why buy a console if it doesn't have any games that you want to play? You don't. No one forces you, either.

I think the current generation is pretty awesome. Lots of great upcoming games. Lots of potential. For some, it's not there yet. For me, I'm having fun. Sure, a limited library. But, having fun nonetheless.
 
I have a love hate relationship with the voice commands on the One. "Xbox watch TBS" isnt "Xbox watch BET".
 
Clumsydenial said:
I have a love hate relationship with the voice commands on the One. "Xbox watch TBS" isnt "Xbox watch BET".
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Outside of "Xbox On" I don't have any issues with voice commands. Then again I don't have cable so I don't use those features of the system. For navigation around the menus it's really good.
 
The blade system looked very Fisher-Price, but it was fast, it did the job, and (like others have said) it wasn't wall-to-wall ads.
 
Godmachine said:
Are you fucking kidding me? Lol

It crashed CONSTANTLY , it was slow as fucking hell. The blades DID cover about 80 percent of the screen when they were opened and navigating was utter hell. You know what the single most requested feature was for the Xbox 360 in 2005? Removing the fucking blade UI. You obviously have experienced a totally different UI that must have existed in the Twilight Zone you originate from..

Anyone that liked that total piece of trash UI is cherry coating a dog turd of a memory. At the time it was fucking HATED. I'd rather have one ad once in a while and actually be able to navigate the menu without a crash each time I open it.
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Kiunda ironic that when you hit the Xbox button, guess what that menu is and why? Its blade! because its extrememly fast, uses very little resources, and ist gaudy as hell with ads.
 
I dont like this next gen market for the reasons below.

In 2005 the games been released were still spread out well over many genres, now for consoles FPS and sport are too dominant.
DLC, pre order exclusives etc rampant which has left gamers angry.
Both new consoles have no BC. Whilst on previous gen both had some BC, I think PS3 was fully BC in its first model. With BC a lack of new games doesnt matter.
More connectivity options on last gen, new consoles are hdmi only.
More exclusives first party support, this is less on the next gen.
 
I think the lack of BC really IS one of the main issues. While the devs are still making lots of 360/PS3 games, you have to keep those old systems hooked up to play them. In the past, your new system would play them.
Plus, in the old days the systems were staggered. You would keep your NES hooked up after the Genesis came out because there was no new Nintendo system to replace it. By the time the SNES hit, it had been out in Japan for a while, so there was a wave of releases ready to roll on day 1.
 
Domingo said:
I think the lack of BC really IS one of the main issues. While the devs are still making lots of 360/PS3 games, you have to keep those old systems hooked up to play them. In the past, your new system would play them.
Plus, in the old days the systems were staggered. You would keep your NES hooked up after the Genesis came out because there was no new Nintendo system to replace it. By the time the SNES hit, it had been out in Japan for a while, so there was a wave of releases ready to roll on day 1.
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I was younger back in the SNES and earlier era, but when new consoles released how often did devs still release for the older platform? I would guess it wasn't very often
 
VladDracule said:
I was younger back in the SNES and earlier era, but when new consoles released how often did devs still release for the older platform? I would guess it wasn't very often
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It was fairly often. Not a whole lot of first party titles, but third party were still strong for a couple years. At least until the majority of gamers moved to the newer platforms.
 
VladDracule said:
I was younger back in the SNES and earlier era, but when new consoles released how often did devs still release for the older platform? I would guess it wasn't very often
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The games continued to come out for older systems, but they were rarely high profile. I'm sure a lot of that probably relates to the US (and Europe) getting the systems well after Japan did. There were slews of AAA titles ready to roll right away and they shipped with a "system seller" game, too. These days we see just as many western devs as Japanese, but in those days that wasn't the case. The Japanese had LONG since moved their development over to the new platform since they got the new systems so much sooner. That's not really the case now.
 
I don't get the whole fuss about backwards compatibility. Most consoles have never featured it. I can name 5 consoles that are backward compatible. Far more that aren't.
 
demingo said:
I don't get the whole fuss about backwards compatibility. Most consoles have never featured it. I can name 5 consoles that are backward compatible. Far more that aren't.
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A severe lack of release titles. with BC you could at least play old games and clear out the shelf space but with very little to play on current gen consoles you have to keep the old ones or you run out of content
 
If library availability is an issue at release, don't buy the consoles at release.
 
I'd preordered PS4. Then cancelled my order on the last possible day before Amazon shipped it. Best decision I ever made in my life.

Still enjoy my PS3 with its great game library and new free AAA games every month from PS+. Meanwhile, PS4 lacks the multimedia features, UI isn't much faster, and has nothing worth playing.
 
MrCrispy said:
I'd preordered PS4. Then cancelled my order on the last possible day before Amazon shipped it. Best decision I ever made in my life.

Still enjoy my PS3 with its great game library and new free AAA games every month from PS+. Meanwhile, PS4 lacks the multimedia features, UI isn't much faster, and has nothing worth playing.
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Disagree. UI is MUCH faster than the ps3.
 
refraxion said:
Disagree. UI is MUCH faster than the ps3.
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Faster but i still think its a shitty UI. Navigating to anything in it is such a pain in the ass. Of course that could be because i barely even power my PS4 on that im not familiar enough with it :p
 
VladDracule said:
Faster but i still think its a shitty UI. Navigating to anything in it is such a pain in the ass. Of course that could be because i barely even power my PS4 on that im not familiar enough with it :p
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That's not the point. Its not just "slightly" faster. I can get into the store probably four to five times before the ps3 gets into it. I can navigate around much faster on the crappy ps4 ui.
 
BC is a big big factor.

IF it existed I probably would now own both consoles, as it stands I own neither.

The attitude of both companies "oh just clutter up your room with the extra cables and consoles its all fine" whilst on a pc if I update it, old games still work. I guess they think everyone lives in these large american houses we always see on tv that have lots of space, here my space is at a premium.

Perhaps if they didnt keep deliberatly changing the architecture on every generation then BC wouldnt be such an issue for them.
 
chrcoluk said:
BC is a big big factor.

IF it existed I probably would now own both consoles, as it stands I own neither.

The attitude of both companies "oh just clutter up your room with the extra cables and consoles its all fine" whilst on a pc if I update it, old games still work. I guess they think everyone lives in these large american houses we always see on tv that have lots of space, here my space is at a premium.

Perhaps if they didnt keep deliberatly changing the architecture on every generation then BC wouldnt be such an issue for them.
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Ok, how would they do it and NOT cost more money? Oh, and no, people will not be willing to pay more.
 
Who wouldnt pay more?

I think £400 for a non BC PS4 is a ripoff, I think £500 for a PS4 with BC is worth buying.

If you already at the point you paying the launch prices than an extra 10-20% on the price isnt going to stop the purchase.

Also whats wrong with having 2 models, one non BC for those who see no value in older games and a proper BC console next to it?
 
chrcoluk said:
Who wouldnt pay more?

I think £400 for a non BC PS4 is a ripoff, I think £500 for a PS4 with BC is worth buying.

If you already at the point you paying the launch prices than an extra 10-20% on the price isnt going to stop the purchase.

Also whats wrong with having 2 models, one non BC for those who see no value in older games and a proper BC console next to it?
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PS3, $600, Nuff said. :eek:
 
chrcoluk said:
Also whats wrong with having 2 models, one non BC for those who see no value in older games and a proper BC console next to it?
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R&D budgets, for starters...

Sony can only afford to put down so much cash on the development of a new console. It's not an infinite number. The cost of integrating BC was probably ruled to be better spent improving somewhere else. Two SKUs would make even less sense. Given a choice, I think a very large number of gamers would choose the less expensive model. That would mean the money spent on developing BC would get an even lower return. That's not smart business.
 
I don't see how it's possible to say the PS4 UI is worse than the Xbox One. It's extremely simple, fast, etc. The Xbox One UI is just a cluster fuck of tiles and will have to change at some point now that Kinect has been dropped.

The PS4 UI certainly could use some work in the Game/Media Folder scene because scrolling 3 seconds to the far right is somewhat annoying looking for a game you haven't played in awhile. How is it shitty or bad to have 3 levels;

Level 1
Store - Notifications - Friends - Messages - Party - Profile - Trophies - Settings - Power

Level 2
Whats New - Games A-Z

Level 3
Whats New (Details) - Games A-Z (Details)

At any point in any of those options you can get to any place within 1-2 seconds. On my Xbox that is impossible to do, never mind the time it takes to navigate the UI (which is much longer than 1-2 seconds) the transition effects prevents the speed of the user from ever being able to accomplish it even if it was possible.

I can see any arguments with features, (snap is awesome and resume actually works on my One as opposed to the PS4), but strictly the UI?
 
chrcoluk said:
Who wouldnt pay more?

I think £400 for a non BC PS4 is a ripoff, I think £500 for a PS4 with BC is worth buying.

If you already at the point you paying the launch prices than an extra 10-20% on the price isnt going to stop the purchase.

Also whats wrong with having 2 models, one non BC for those who see no value in older games and a proper BC console next to it?
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A backwards compatible PS4 would be a hell of a lot more than 500 dollars, it would probably cost 700+. The good news is that most every console that comes out from now on should be BC. I doubt any console maker switches off of x86 for quite some time.
 
next-Jin said:
I don't see how it's possible to say the PS4 UI is worse than the Xbox One. It's extremely simple, fast, etc. The Xbox One UI is just a cluster fuck of tiles and will have to change at some point now that Kinect has been dropped.

The PS4 UI certainly could use some work in the Game/Media Folder scene because scrolling 3 seconds to the far right is somewhat annoying looking for a game you haven't played in awhile. How is it shitty or bad to have 3 levels;

Level 1
Store - Notifications - Friends - Messages - Party - Profile - Trophies - Settings - Power

Level 2
Whats New - Games A-Z

Level 3
Whats New (Details) - Games A-Z (Details)

At any point in any of those options you can get to any place within 1-2 seconds. On my Xbox that is impossible to do, never mind the time it takes to navigate the UI (which is much longer than 1-2 seconds) the transition effects prevents the speed of the user from ever being able to accomplish it even if it was possible.

I can see any arguments with features, (snap is awesome and resume actually works on my One as opposed to the PS4), but strictly the UI?
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Newest beta dash for release by end of August has totally revamped friends and put speed in switching installs and many other things these are non issues now.

Sony needs to update it seems fast but the whole thing is a fucking mess games can't be organized no easy way to do anything with your friends list. Never mind still no damn resume.

Gotta give a shutout to remote vita play being the worst working fucking feature ever touted as something good.
That really pisses me off.
But hey at least we get lots of stability :rolleyes:

Neither is perfect but one is definitely improving much faster.

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And people bitching about backwards compatibility keep your old consoles is that so fucking hard? Don't sell the shit for fractions of its value.

Btw here are some of the August changes this is what we have so far it isn't final yet

&#9726;Friends List: New view options
&#9726;Friends List: "Last Seen" displayed (Example: "Last seen 20m ago: Forza Motorsport 5")
&#9726;Activity Feed: Single column of updates
&#9726;Activity Feed: Post a text message to friends on your feed
&#9726;Activity Feed: Like a friend's feed item
&#9726;Activity Feed: Share a friend's feed item on your feed (with comment if desired)
&#9726;Activity Feed: Share a friend's feed item privately via a Live Message
&#9726;Upload Hub: Like a Game Clip
&#9726;Upload Hub: Share a Game Clip
&#9726;Mobile Purchase: Purchase content on Xbox.com or SmartGlass (requires SmartGlass beta), and your console will download it. (Console must be set to Instant-on, and automatically download updates).
&#9726;Low Battery Notification: A notification will appear when your controller's batteries are low.
&#9726;Notifications: Control notifications preferences by notification type
&#9726;Notifications: Disable notifications during video playback, by type
&#9726;Settings: Voice control is enabled for most Settings options.
&#9726;Controller: Haptic feedback on the Xbox button when holding to action on a notification or go to power center.
3D Bluray
Improved install times
Improved response switching from video apps to games and other tasks
 
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