phenom II 00 TWKR.....Help me indentify this CPU

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Hi all, i recently purchased a Phenom II black edition 555 x2, new from a trusted retailer.



which unlocks to 4 cores, no problem, but when i overclock to 1.4v 4gh. it says in bios screen AMD Engineering sample, and cpuz says "phenom II 00 TWKR" clocked at 1.6mhz. Do i have a rare chip here? can anyone shed some light on this?

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you may have an ES that slipped though? since even AOD Id's it as an Engineering Sample ? never heard of anything like this
 
Unlocking does things like this. Unlocking the X2 5000 identifies it as a phenom FX 5000.
 
the FX 5000 was supposed to be a real chip i believe, the Identifier is on the chip itself
 
sounds like a bios hiccup.. but check the batch number on the heatspreader of the cpu..
 
so 4 years and 3 months later ..... if I now google "phenom II 00 TWKR" there are a few more occurrences of people with the same chip, on threads that came after this one. On different boards and bios's... I wonder if they were AMD Easter eggs!

Im thinking of selling the chip and see if it does have any collectors value. Still has the original packaging in good condition, and has only been lightly used.

Does anyone know any CPU collectors?
 
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/2009/07/amd-twkr-be-phenom-ii-42-6ghz/

Yeah I remember these chips. They were limited edition chips that were cherry-picked for the "ultimate" overclocking experience. As for the CPU identifier, probably either a hiccup or this chip you have was originally gonna be a TWKR chip but was later rejected or something. I remember some of the Thuban chips, once unlocked, would be identified as an 1600T, even though the highest model that was sold was the 1100T.
 
I think the TWKR 42 was marked on the heat spreader but the TWKR 00 was unmarked, and an easter egg for overclockers.

Im not really an overclocker, so didn't really do much with the chip, just unlocked the 2 extra cores with a modest overclock.
 
The TWKR 00 are just glitches. They're just plain run of the mill unlockable chips. The TWKR 42s are the rare ones. Only 100 made, and only given to professional OCers.
 
The TWKR 00 are just glitches. They're just plain run of the mill unlockable chips. The TWKR 42s are the rare ones. Only 100 made, and only given to professional OCers.

Mine is prime stable @ 4.1 on stock voltage and with the crappy boxed cooler.

Thats about 300-400mhz higher than the average run of the mill 555. If it were a "glitch" then why does both the BIOS and CPUz both display the "glitch"?

And why do only a small number of 555's have the "glitch"... strange glitch, don't you think! And why did Evil Penguin request to buy the 00 TWKR if it's a glitch?

I'm happy to lend it to a real pro overclocker, to prove it's a lot better than a standard 555.
 
4.1-4.2 is about maximum freq for a standard phenom, you may have a special chip if you're hitting 4.1 on stock volts.
 
I'm happy to lend it to a real pro overclocker, to prove it's a lot better than a standard 555.

I wish I still had a decent AM3 board to take you up on this. If you can do 4.1 at stock Vcore with the stock HSF that chip should love water/LN2..I prefer to push my chips right to the voltage wall, and then back down 1%..I haven't lost a single OC'd CPU in the 19 years I've been doing this.

4.1-4.2 is about maximum freq for a standard phenom, you may have a special chip if you're hitting 4.1 on stock volts.

Not sure if this applies to just the PII Quads but I had a launch week 1055T that did 4.3Ghz Prime95/F@H Big Adv (which will kick a Prime stable OC in the nuts) 24/7 @ 1.47V actual. My board at the time would under volt any Vcore setting of 1.44V (or lower) and over volt anything over 1.45V (hence the 1.47V my Fluke Multimeter was reading under 100% load on all 6 cores)..

I really loved those chips..If only AMD had been able to respin them with a 10~15% IPC boost via a new stepping they would have a been a great stop gap to combat the Sandys that Bulldozer's first silicon failed so hard at:(...
 
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Mine is prime stable @ 4.1 on stock voltage and with the crappy boxed cooler.

Thats about 300-400mhz higher than the average run of the mill 555. If it were a "glitch" then why does both the BIOS and CPUz both display the "glitch"?

And why do only a small number of 555's have the "glitch"... strange glitch, don't you think! And why did Evil Penguin request to buy the 00 TWKR if it's a glitch?

I'm happy to lend it to a real pro overclocker, to prove it's a lot better than a standard 555.

Look, you're convinced you have something special, and that's fine. You might have a better then average piece of silicon, but because it OC's well on stock air usually means its shitty for LN2. Enjoy the chip, it's getting old, and ripe for replacement. I'd hit it with a pile of volts and see just how far you can get it on a suicide run. It's not like it would matter much.

At the end of the day, its just another 555.
 
Not to mention, the TWKRs didn't really sell for that much more than the Phenom II x4 965s at the time on the used market.
 
Look, you're convinced you have something special, and that's fine. You might have a better then average piece of silicon, but because it OC's well on stock air usually means its shitty for LN2. Enjoy the chip, it's getting old, and ripe for replacement. I'd hit it with a pile of volts and see just how far you can get it on a suicide run. It's not like it would matter much.

At the end of the day, its just another 555.

Yep it's getting old now, it's been in a second machine with light use for a while, I got a 4790K last year, happy with that. You do seem to be a little bitter in some way though. Like you had a 555 and you were upset it was not a 00 or a good overclocker. come on whats your story?

At the end of the day it's a special 555 :)
 
Not to mention, the TWKRs didn't really sell for that much more than the Phenom II x4 965s at the time on the used market.

money is not my objective. and I know it won't make more than any other used 555, I just want to make sure that whoever buys it is someone that will play with it and not just use it as a 2 core 3.2GHZ chip.

I would love to see a pro overclocker buy it, to see what they can get out of it. not having the time or skills myself to play with it.

It would in my opinion be a tragedy for it to be brought by a system builder and it go into granny's "new" desktop with windows XP and a floppy drive.
 
Yep it's getting old now, it's been in a second machine with light use for a while, I got a 4790K last year, happy with that. You do seem to be a little bitter in some way though. Like you had a 555 and you were upset it was not a 00 or a good overclocker. come on whats your story?

At the end of the day it's a special 555 :)

*Shrugs* Last AMD chip I had was a Athlon X2 3200+.
 
you just like hanging around in the AMD forums. fair enough.

Yes, because regardless of what chips I use, competition is a necessity for the market. So everything AMD does directly influences what Intel does, and vice versa.

I also just wanna follow you around because you're trying to pawn off that 555 on eBay likes it's god gift to man, when it's just another 555. Hell, you can't even prove the point anymore as you. The eBay ad says you can't get the glitch to occur anymore. I think you're trying to rip someone off, and trying to make sure there's enough info on the internet so you can have plausible deniability if the eBay buyer calls you on it. I think you're a shyster, and I think you're trying to get extra for nothing.

Fair Enough?
 
Yes, because regardless of what chips I use, competition is a necessity for the market. So everything AMD does directly influences what Intel does, and vice versa.

I also just wanna follow you around because you're trying to pawn off that 555 on eBay likes it's god gift to man, when it's just another 555. Hell, you can't even prove the point anymore as you. The eBay ad says you can't get the glitch to occur anymore. I think you're trying to rip someone off, and trying to make sure there's enough info on the internet so you can have plausible deniability if the eBay buyer calls you on it. I think you're a shyster, and I think you're trying to get extra for nothing.

Fair Enough?

Touch a raw nerve did I? Don't worry, "it's not your fault, you hear me!? it's not your fault"

You will notice the advert on ebay I have been totally honest (unless of cause, you think i already sold the 00 TWKR and this is an imposter). I told the whole story, you will also notice the 100% positive feedback. After selling countless CPU's, GFX's, RAM and Mobo's on ebay for over 10 years.

"plausible deniability" It's not a WMD inspection. lolololol

you are a true troll. I notice you weren't even a member when countless people were unlocking the 555. I doubt you even read the original thread.

you think i created a post just so I could come back to it 4 years later to make 5% extra on a second hand cpu lol.

My master plan :D

I was a BTC early adopter, back in the 5850 days, so making 5% on a $50 CPU is not really a top concern.
 
I have that chip I bought back in 2011 BX 555 only unlocks on certain motherboards I found out.
 
I have that chip I bought back in 2011 BX 555 only unlocks on certain motherboards I found out.

Yep, there is a thread here with the full list.. the board must have Advanced Clock Calibration settings, if that does not work try different official bios's failing that custom a bios, and even then your board may not unlock.

But im sure there are some people out there that could unlock them on any board. Bios programmers and the like.
 
The TWKR 00 are just glitches. They're just plain run of the mill unlockable chips. The TWKR 42s are the rare ones. Only 100 made, and only given to professional OCers.

what's a professional OCer? who pays them?
 
what's a professional OCer? who pays them?

slightly off topic, but an interesting point.

I have always took it for granted that there would be some overclockers on the payroll of AMD or Intel. But never gave it much thought. Maybe not as there main income and maybe not for direct cash. So maybe you're right and the existence of an overclocker that does it for a living, is too far of a stretch.

maybe start a thread, and see if anyone comes forward.
 
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I think you're trying to rip someone off, and trying to make sure there's enough info on the internet so you can have plausible deniability if the eBay buyer calls you on it. I think you're a shyster, and I think you're trying to get extra for nothing.

Fair Enough?

Reported, we will let the MODs find out;)..



what's a professional OCer? who pays them?

There are quite a few out there.. Most are sponsored by Mobo/GPU/RAM manufacturers and given free product (and possibly a paycheck)..8Pack, K|NGP|N, HiCookie, being the 3 of the most well known to me..Hell the first two now have custom systems and GPU's with their labels now..
 
Reported, we will let the MODs find out;)..

What exactly will the mods find out? If the TWKR 00 was deliberate or a Bios glitch?

There is no answer.

It's upto a buyer to decide, what if any extra significance the TWKR 00 holds over a standard 555. If indeed they were chips that were wrongly binned, or they were chips that just missed out on being TWKR 42. Or maybe they were special AMD easter eggs. Or maybe all 555's displayed "engineering sample" under certain conditions. A TWKR 42 has no or reduced L3 cache where as this chip has the standard amount. (in fact I will add this statement to the auction)

I personally believe that chips that showed TWKR 00 are better than a standard 555. If you don't believe that fair enough.

some people think that BTC has no value, and others think they are worth a lot.

At the end of the day it's for the person buying the chip to assign what value they perceive. If they pay a bit over the average for the chip, then they maybe think along the same lines a me. and if it fetches the exact same as any other used 555 then whoever buys it got a very decent chip at a good price.

It's an auction, if people want to pay a little more than usual for the chip then that's their choice. They will bid what they perceive it to be worth. No one in the world will be searching for a "TWKR 00" without having some idea what it is or what it may be.

There is a link to this forum thread in the auction, so they are free to read it.

And once again it's an auction so the buyer assigns the value not the seller.
 
what's a professional OCer? who pays them?

slightly off topic, but an interesting point.

I have always took it for granted that there would be some overclockers on the payroll of AMD or Intel. But never gave it much thought. Maybe not as there main income and maybe not for direct cash. So maybe you're right and the existence of an overclocker that does it for a living, is too far of a stretch.

maybe start a thread, and see if anyone comes forward.

Interesting thread.. I saw the word "TWKR" in the thread and had to come by and see what this is about. I haven't played with the TWKR for years. This thread brought back some nice memories :) Those that received TWKRs were hand selected by AMD and a few were provided to news sites for benching, who then in turn distributed it to other overclockers.

I haven't professionally or competitively overclocked in years (changes in life priorities), but it was fun times :)

Many of the top overclockers work directly with companies to show case the performance and superiority of their products, or engineers. You guys have to remember, that many boards are reference design, and the various levels are based on "bin'ing". Those manf that have the resource to design and manufacture non-reference boards want to show off how much better their products are. To make a long story short, its all marketing.

Either way.. i suggest you keep the TWKR, its a nice piece of history. I am keeping the ones I have :) Actually, I think I promised AMD that I wouldn't sell it, since they are engineering samples :p

- Ton
 
A 555?! I have a magic 555 that unlocks into a monster quad B55. Is that the same?
 
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