University Sets Punishments For Pirating Students

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Damn, if only there were some way to avoid these punishments like...you know...not pirating stuff. :D

There are many ways to tackle the issue of online piracy and Louisiana State University has decided on its approach. At the bottom end, offenders will experience a temporary Internet disconnection, with repeat offenders receiving fines and potentially career-damaging notes on their education records.
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OMG NO, NOT THE PERMANENT RECORD (p.s. if they think any note in that will impact their career they are fools)
 
All I want to say was ~25 years ago there was a similar punishment for the same thing at my university..
 
Oh no! A note on my education record. What ever will I do after graduation when the only thing they can legally say is "yes the degree is valid"?

Ok snark aside, I think the university handling it is far better than the AAs ruining some kids financial life over downloading a song.
 
drescherjm said:
All I want to say was ~25 years ago there was a similar punishment for the same thing at my university..
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When I graduated school almost 20 years ago, the entire lan campus was on 10/100bt HUBS for hundreds of machines. It really wasn't an issue as the network was barely usable :)
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Oh no! A note on my education record. What ever will I do after graduation when the only thing they can legally say is "yes the degree is valid"?

Ok snark aside, I think the university handling it is far better than the AAs ruining some kids financial life over downloading a song.
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You think the university wagging their finger will stop or take the place of the AAs from ruining kids financially?

I have a bridge to sell you.
 
With everyone in such close proximity on a campus Sneakernet always wins and is safest. No digital trail to follow.
 
drescherjm said:
All I want to say was ~25 years ago there was a similar punishment for the same thing at my university..
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25 years ago the University was probably the fastest internet you could possibly get ever, today, not so much, a lot of which people with cable access can get at home. I remember hearing about ResNET and was in awe at the raw speed you could have... not enough to actually make want to live in the dorms, but still it was tempting.
 
Or the collage kids decide that they'll come up with a new method of hiding their tracks, which will then filter to the rest of the masses. Making it all that much harder for some to track who's pirating.
 
Why would you use campus internet to do that anyways, use your own home internet and if you live on campus lol way to waste your money overpaying.
 
As a computer genius who doesn't need their educating, cause if I was there I would end up reaching the teachers how to use Windows... Let me be the first to say, fuck you!

Go punish your history and English teachers, we of the geek universe don't need your education.
 
drescherjm said:
All I want to say was ~25 years ago there was a similar punishment for the same thing at my university..
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I got suspended for 2 days and it's on my "permanent record" for "computer hacking". I didn't hack anything, I just was playing around with the new school network (we were behind the times... 1990 and just got our IBM 386's networked). Did some cool stuff, but somehow sent all screen traffic to the printer, which gave things away. I wasn't doing anything bad, but I did use a shit ton of paper (dot matrix, FTW). The teacher didn't know how to do stuff, so I was teaching myself. At least I figured out what NOT to do! :)

No one has ever seen my permanent record. It's there if you want to see it, but no one cares. I think it also shows that I took a piss behind the school at one time, too.

I think pirating students should get cut off and have to have a sit down. Getting caught is a pain in the ass, and you find out the other consequences. You either stop pirating or find a new method. Otherwise, you can't do it with no connection.
 
A number of years ago, when I was in University, I did some "hacking" that I do now admit was wrong ... albeit hilarious.
I took an elective in technology in the classroom and I had a teacher named Richard. He had a wireless projector, that was not password protected. The class was incredibly boring so I used my laptop to login to the projector and play a looped clip from the movie Tommy Boy .. the clip where Chris Farley is wearing David spades coat "fat guy in a little coat" where he says "Richard what's happening". I thought it was applicable .... Richard however ... did not.
 
Or they could do what my university did a while back. Just block all the ports that are known to carry that kind of traffic. Problem solved. It was actually done as a measure to protect students from RIAA suits, interestingly enough.
 
I attended LSU from 1998 to 2002. p2p sharing was exploding due to programs like Napster and Morpheus and Kazaa. I remember the administration grumbling at the time.
 
Oh no! A note on my education record. What ever will I do after graduation when the only thing they can legally say is "yes the degree is valid"?
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You are right, it probably won't impact your future, probably. But I can say that if you are ever in need of a Top Secret Security Clearance there is a chance that it could. It depends on how it plays out.

Don't be so sure to say that this won't matter and that won't matter and no one will ever look at this anyway, won't matter. It might matter and there really isn't any way to know ahead of time.

Hell, you could be working for 10 years at an IT Company and one day they might win a Military Contract and you being a senior guy they want you as head dude in charge so they start paperwork up for a TS so you can be the big guy running the show. Now you forgot all about that little note in your College Record and a question comes up in your interview, "Did you ever do ...", and like I said you done forgot about that note that no one will ever read so you answer "no". Then after the interview they introduce you to the polygraph and you answer "no" again to that same question and the weirdest thing happens, the little needles start to jump, the Poly Operator tries not to make a face .. blah blah blah, Security Clearance is returned with unfavorable information found, access denied, your boss has to hire someone else from outside the company to run the show. That blown polygraph and Security Investigation just cost your company about $80K and so they aren't taking any chances this time.

Oh, and they really don't need another guy, they just need one that has a TS so, yea, you're gone dude, done.
 
jfolds said:
As a computer genius who doesn't need their educating, cause if I was there I would end up reaching the teachers how to use Windows... Let me be the first to say, fuck you!

Go punish your history and English teachers, we of the geek universe don't need your education.
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You could use a little proof reading and grammar touch up, things that a secondary education reinforce. Write like that on your resume and I'm sure you genius will shine through.
 
He's a computer genius, He just types the first couple of characters and hits "TAB" :D
 
"Failure to do so can result in the loss of federal funding so needless to say, campuses view the issue seriously."

Another sad example of government for sale to it's corporate owners.
 
lcpiper said:
You are right, it probably won't impact your future, probably. But I can say that if you are ever in need of a Top Secret Security Clearance there is a chance that it could. It depends on how it plays out.

Don't be so sure to say that this won't matter and that won't matter and no one will ever look at this anyway, won't matter. It might matter and there really isn't any way to know ahead of time.

Hell, you could be working for 10 years at an IT Company and one day they might win a Military Contract and you being a senior guy they want you as head dude in charge so they start paperwork up for a TS so you can be the big guy running the show. Now you forgot all about that little note in your College Record and a question comes up in your interview, "Did you ever do ...", and like I said you done forgot about that note that no one will ever read so you answer "no". Then after the interview they introduce you to the polygraph and you answer "no" again to that same question and the weirdest thing happens, the little needles start to jump, the Poly Operator tries not to make a face .. blah blah blah, Security Clearance is returned with unfavorable information found, access denied, your boss has to hire someone else from outside the company to run the show. That blown polygraph and Security Investigation just cost your company about $80K and so they aren't taking any chances this time.

Oh, and they really don't need another guy, they just need one that has a TS so, yea, you're gone dude, done.
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Stealing info/ breaking copyright then lying about it and costing you the interview?
Yeah right, try pushes you to the front of the line to work for the NSA!
 
Resume? Fuck that, I don't work around sub standard equipment. I piss on your network of Dell computers. Go find a high school student to work on that garbage.
 
timta2 said:
"Failure to do so can result in the loss of federal funding so needless to say, campuses view the issue seriously."

Another sad example of government for sale to it's corporate owners.
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Not really ... the government requires campuses to comply with all laws to receive federal funding ... they don't usually differentiate between the laws that people like vs the laws they don't like ... although the piracy and copyright laws are flawed right not, they are still the law ...

you see similar interactions with the government over drug laws ... certain states may have made marijuana legal but the federal government still treats it as a controlled substance, so any organizations that deal with the government would still be required to use drug testing or disciplinary actions against people who smoke marijuana ...

really no different on the piracy side ... until the law is changed the federal government has a responsibility to enforce the law ... and withholding funding is a very good form of enforcement ;)
 
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