34" 21:9 UltraWide Displays (3440x1440) - LG UM95/UM65 & Dell U3415W

JediFonger said:
are you guys watching a ton of cinemascope 2.4 movies? i would think these arne't great for productivity purposes. it's very movie-focused.
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I would tend to disagree. The size makes for a nice 2 or 3 application wide layout on a single screen, and if you use Excel a lot, the number of columns you can fit is absurd. Don't even get me started on how many 80 character wide terminals I could throw on this thing. There's also the massive FOV you can use in games.

As for movies, it's excellent if you have a movie in the correct format, but you'll probably be contending with black bars on the sides more often than you'll have a proper aspect ratio film filling the screen.
 
JediFonger said:
are you guys watching a ton of cinemascope 2.4 movies? i would think these arne't great for productivity purposes. it's very movie-focused.
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These are advertised first and foremost as a productivity monitor. A quality TV will still be much better for movies if you don't mind bars. You'll also get side bars on 16:9 movies, and all TV shows with this monitor.

Personally, I would stream movies/TV shows over the network to a larger 16:9 TV and use this monitor for desktop and games. If that's not in the budget, than this should still be fine for a movie monitor, but i've never felt IPS has the best black levels and contrast ratio for movies. Keep note, many media programs don't correctly support 21:9 and essentially "zoom" in the movie to get those bars to disappear, which does hurt picture quality.
 
Bobalias_LeShay said:
I would tend to disagree. The size makes for a nice 2 or 3 application wide layout on a single screen, and if you use Excel a lot, the number of columns you can fit is absurd. Don't even get me started on how many 80 character wide terminals I could throw on this thing. There's also the massive FOV you can use in games.

As for movies, it's excellent if you have a movie in the correct format, but you'll probably be contending with black bars on the sides more often than you'll have a proper aspect ratio film filling the screen.
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To add onto this, if you do development, this monitor has great potential. I personally can't do dual display so I have a 27". Making what I have wider opens up a much better development experience.

Browser/Terminal/Sublime/Documentation is tough to get decently sized on my 27", increased width will definitely help.
 
John721 said:
Just curious, but would input lag differences be expected from different connections? For example, I have a 34UM65 (2560x1080) hooked up via dual link DVI - would I be better or worse off with displayport (DP)? My video card does have DP. Any other possible advantages to DP?
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I had the same 2560x1080 DVI setup as you and changed over to DP with the 34UM95.

I was expecting worse overall performance due to the higher res, but was in fact shocked to find out that the UM95 actually "feels" a bit faster (smoother). I don't know if it's due to DVI vs. DP, or if the UM95 has less lag than the EA93.
 
jamiee said:
I had the same 2560x1080 DVI setup as you and changed over to DP with the 34UM95.

I was expecting worse overall performance due to the higher res, but was in fact shocked to find out that the UM95 actually "feels" a bit faster (smoother). I don't know if it's due to DVI vs. DP, or if the UM95 has less lag than the EA93.
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it does have less input lag than the 29" model :

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source : http://anandtech.com/show/8057/lg-34um95-monitor-review/6
 
Heres a crappy photo I took of my mointor

The "light bleed" on the left hand side is way over done in the photo vs what you see in person

The lower right hand side is barely noticeable and disappears if you move your head

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GT98 said:
Heres a crappy photo I took of my mointor

The "light bleed" on the left hand side is way over done in the photo vs what you see in person

The lower right hand side is barely noticeable and disappears if you move your head

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I would say that's a pretty good panel, but it's a bright room compared to a dark room that most people are taking pictures from so hard to compare. I had a feeling cameras are oversaturating the glow, but mines coming tomorrow so i'll get to see in person how bad it is. If I can't notice it during darker games with my lights on i'll be happy.

I've yet to see one that's even close to the one that PRAD reviewed though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=245VaLNlb90#t=129
 
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Tyrindor said:
I would say that's a pretty good panel, but it's a bright room compared to a dark room that most people are taking pictures from so hard to compare. I had a feeling cameras are oversaturating the glow, but mines coming tomorrow so i'll get to see in person how bad it is. If I can't notice it during darker games with my lights on i'll be happy.

I've yet to see one that's even close to the one that PRAD reviewed though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=245VaLNlb90#t=129
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It certainly does oversaturate the glow to an extent, but this is also the first monitor I've had where you can see the bleed even in normal programs and games (not just dark scenes). It's pretty bad.

I seriously wish mine looked like that PRAD video. I'd be ecstatic.
 
jolli said:
It certainly does oversaturate the glow to an extent, but this is also the first monitor I've had where you can see the bleed even in normal programs and games (not just dark scenes). It's pretty bad.

I seriously wish mine looked like that PRAD video. I'd be ecstatic.
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I won't tolerate a $1000 monitor with bleed you can see in normal programs and games. If mine doesn't look close to PRADs, it goes back. They shouldn't be able to send premium cherry-picked versions of the monitor to reviewers. Monitor companies are skimping way too much lately, backlight bleeding happens on many TN/IPS panels and *somehow* it rarely happens in the ones professional reviewers get (Prad, Linus, etc). The 3 2560x1080 IPS Dell monitors I had a pleasure of using had 0 backlight bleed even with the lights off, so it's definitely not some limitation of the technology. :(

Whatever they are doing to make the "consumer" monitors cheaper for mass production is causing it. Gotta take pre-release monitor reviews with a massive grain of salt anymore. Sad thing is, I'm sure many of would have no problems paying a little more for the one with better quality control... :p

Edit: Mine's coming from Costco too. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow and maybe give you an idea if you want to exchange/refund. Sadly, yours seems like the worse bleeding i've seen yet and i've been following multiple threads of this monitor for months now. Do you feel your i1 calibrator made a big difference with the monitor?
 
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GT98 said:
Heres a crappy photo I took of my mointor

The "light bleed" on the left hand side is way over done in the photo vs what you see in person

The lower right hand side is barely noticeable and disappears if you move your head

P8MjVBKl.jpg
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If you move your head while looking at the screen and the effect goes away then that's regular IPS glow. If you move and the glow stays the same, that's backlight bleed.

I know a friend who bought his 34UM95 back in May and he only has a little bit of IPS glow in the lower right corner. Guess he got lucky. Dunno what his manufacturer date is though.
 
Tyrindor said:
Edit: Mine's coming from Costco too. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow and maybe give you an idea if you want to exchange/refund. Sadly, yours seems like the worse bleeding i've seen yet and i've been following multiple threads of this monitor for months now. Do you feel your i1 calibrator made a big difference with the monitor?
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To be completely honest, the first thing I did was calibrate the screen. My two reasons for wanting this monitor are the hardware calibration and thunderbolt port.

That said, it looks fantastic. I absolutely want a 21:9 screen with these features, so either I keep this one or gamble on a return/exchange. I gave my father my U3011 so I need this screen to work! ;)
 
Tyrindor said:
I would say that's a pretty good panel, but it's a bright room compared to a dark room that most people are taking pictures from so hard to compare. I had a feeling cameras are oversaturating the glow, but mines coming tomorrow so i'll get to see in person how bad it is. If I can't notice it during darker games with my lights on i'll be happy.
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Yeah I have no problems with bleed, just took a look at it with it being completely dark in the house outside of the ambient light from the PC and keyboard.

You can't see it with the lights on at all and there is a very slight/barely noticeable glow in some of the corners when its completely dark.
 
Derkspector said:
I wish I knew someone that wanted my U3011. And didn't offer me $150 CA...no joke.
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Just out of interest what do you consider to be a fair price for your old Dell 30"?
Friend has offered me €350 for my 3008, but I don't want to rip him off.
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that this corner glow thing is being blown way out of proportion. My Dell U3014 (all 3 of them, since I returned for a replacement) had extremely noticeable and bad IPS glow in the bottom corners when photographed in a dark room. The glow is much more difficult to see with the naked eye in a dark room, you need to be watching a dark movie scene. If my LED strips illuminating behind the monitors it can't be seen, let alone with the room lights on.

I strongly suspect that the glow we're seeing reported here is similar. My guess is that it's unavoidable IPS glow that will disappear in all but the darkest of room/image combinations.
 
Bobalias_LeShay said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that this corner glow thing is being blown way out of proportion. My Dell U3014 (all 3 of them, since I returned for a replacement) had extremely noticeable and bad IPS glow in the bottom corners when photographed in a dark room. The glow is much more difficult to see with the naked eye in a dark room, you need to be watching a dark movie scene. If my LED strips illuminating behind the monitors it can't be seen, let alone with the room lights on.

I strongly suspect that the glow we're seeing reported here is similar. My guess is that it's unavoidable IPS glow that will disappear in all but the darkest of room/image combinations.
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This is my impression as well. A few pages ago someone posted a long-exposure photo of their corner glow in a dark room and asked if it was bad enough to replace the monitor. But then s/he went on to mention that the corner glow couldn't be seen in normal use, only in a long-exposure photo. :confused:

If it doesn't bother you in normal operation, then it's not worth replacing. If you can't see it without taking a long-exposure photo in a dark room, it's absolutely not worth replacing.

Out of curiosity, I pulled up a black screen on my 9-year-old IPS monitor in the dark last night. Sure enough, it had what many would consider to be bad IPS glow. However, I can't say it's ever bothered me in the 9 years that I've been using it.

A few people here have definitely had some IPS glow issues, but in general I think the issue is being blown far out of proportion.
 
IPS glow is 100% normal, backlight bleed is not. Some users here reported their issues happening even if viewing the corner from dead on, if it's excessive than I would say it warrants an exchange. If it disappears when viewed from dead on then it is 100% normal.

Some pictures here are definitely excessive backlight bleeding. This one for example is far enough away that IPS glow shouldn't be picked up (especially to that degree): http://i.imgur.com/MDUZfXr.jpg?1

I agree that most of these posts are likely normal IPS glow that is more apparent due to the 21x9 screen.
 
AgentQ said:
This is my impression as well. A few pages ago someone posted a long-exposure photo of their corner glow in a dark room and asked if it was bad enough to replace the monitor. But then s/he went on to mention that the corner glow couldn't be seen in normal use, only in a long-exposure photo. :confused:

If it doesn't bother you in normal operation, then it's not worth replacing. If you can't see it without taking a long-exposure photo in a dark room, it's absolutely not worth replacing.

Out of curiosity, I pulled up a black screen on my 9-year-old IPS monitor in the dark last night. Sure enough, it had what many would consider to be bad IPS glow. However, I can't say it's ever bothered me in the 9 years that I've been using it.

A few people here have definitely had some IPS glow issues, but in general I think the issue is being blown far out of proportion.
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I believe you are referring to my post. Yes the picture was a fairly long-ish exposure but what I mentioned as the biggest factor in the visibility of the glow was the angle. The larger the angle the more visible it is. Now I know from the posters here that is normal.

I do not think I was blowing it out of proportion, I posted the exact details on how I took the picture and all I wanted to know is if my panel is within acceptable spec.

To me it seems that the extra width of the monitor causes the corners to be at a larger angle in relation tour eyes making the IPS glow seem worse than a 16:10 or 16:9 monitor
 
Neutrino said:
I believe you are referring to my post. Yes the picture was a fairly long-ish exposure but what I mentioned as the biggest factor in the visibility of the glow was the angle. The larger the angle the more visible it is. Now I know from the posters here that is normal.

I do not think I was blowing it out of proportion, I posted the exact details on how I took the picture and all I wanted to know is if my panel is within acceptable spec.

To me it seems that the extra width of the monitor causes the corners to be at a larger angle in relation tour eyes making the IPS glow seem worse than a 16:10 or 16:9 monitor
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I owned a 29" Dell 21x9 monitor and I never really noticed IPS glow when viewing from the center (and I'm extremely picky). It was very minor to say the least, outside of viewing in a dark room.

http://www.displaywars.com/comparisons/29-inch-21x9-vs-34-inch-21x9.png This really isn't that much larger, so if IPS glow is dramatically worse i'd think there's something different causing more glow on these. Mine should be arriving at any moment... It's on truck for delivery. So worried. :eek:
 
Tyrindor said:
IPS glow is 100% normal, backlight bleed is not. Some users here reported their issues happening even if viewing the corner from dead on, if it's excessive than I would say it warrants an exchange. If it disappears when viewed from dead on then it is 100% normal.

Some pictures here are definitely excessive backlight bleeding. This one for example is far enough away that IPS glow shouldn't be picked up (especially to that degree): http://i.imgur.com/MDUZfXr.jpg?1

I agree that most of these posts are likely normal IPS glow that is more apparent due to the 21x9 screen.
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Wasn't the the 2 second exposure guy? His curtains have IPS glow in that picture...
 
[H]appymeal;1040950810 said:
Wasn't the the 2 second exposure guy? His curtains have IPS glow in that picture...
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That is not my pic

Furthermore:

Geez you post the exact exposure values when taking a picture for context and critique and then you become the 2 second exposure guy

Why didn't anyone post to tell that the exposure was too much instead of making me sound like I overexposed to make the monitor sound bad.

If people would bother to read my posts they would see that I acknowledged the monitor is within spec and that's it.
 
Neutrino said:
That is not my pic

Furthermore:

Geez you post the exact exposure values when taking a picture for context and critique and then you become the 2 second exposure guy

Why didn't anyone post to tell that the exposure was too much instead of making me sound like I overexposed to make the monitor sound bad.

If people would bother to read my posts they would see that I acknowledged the monitor is within spec and that's it.
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I don't think anyone is criticizing you. Longer exposure it certainly better when trying to gauge a low light phenomenon. Your photo simply looks odd compared to the others in this thread because most of them are auto exposed or cell phone shots, so the light differences are more noticeable in yours. i.e. Long exposure isn't comparable to a "normal" photo, but it's extremely useful in context.
 
Bobalias_LeShay said:
I don't think anyone is criticizing you. Longer exposure it certainly better when trying to gauge a low light phenomenon. Your photo simply looks odd compared to the others in this thread because most of them are auto exposed or cell phone shots, so the light differences are more noticeable in yours. i.e. Long exposure isn't comparable to a "normal" photo, but it's extremely useful in context.
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I don't mind technical critique, which is why I posted the exposure values. It just seemed that they posted sarcastically.

Of course sarcasm is sometimes difficult to detect in a forum post with a lack of visual/auditory cues so perhaps i misunderstood their meaning.
 
Neutrino said:
I don't mind technical critique, which is why I posted the exposure values. It just seemed that they posted sarcastically.

Of course sarcasm is sometimes difficult to detect in a forum post with a lack of visual/auditory cues so perhaps i misunderstood their meaning.
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I never considered your panel that bad, given the solid dark room.. dunno why people are making a big fuss about it. Compared to some of the others that never posted exposure times, your panel seems great. Who knows if some of these exposure times are even longer or if they just have bad panels.
 
This light bleed is just depressing. I really want one of these monitors (or one of the cheaper variants in the future). But this light bleed has me thinking I should hold off. I guess we will see what these LG panels look like by the time Dell and AoC start pumping out their variant.

I got lucky with my Catleap. While it doesn't overclock, it has 0 light bleed.
 
Tyrindor said:
IPS glow is 100% normal, backlight bleed is not. Some users here reported their issues happening even if viewing the corner from dead on, if it's excessive than I would say it warrants an exchange. If it disappears when viewed from dead on then it is 100% normal.

Some pictures here are definitely excessive backlight bleeding. This one for example is far enough away that IPS glow shouldn't be picked up (especially to that degree): http://i.imgur.com/MDUZfXr.jpg?1

I agree that most of these posts are likely normal IPS glow that is more apparent due to the 21x9 screen.
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I completely agree that if your monitor is exhibiting noticeable backlight bleeding during normal usage, then it should be replaced.

My point was that we shouldn't let this get to a point where people would otherwise be happy with their monitors, but instead are disappointed that they're getting IPS glow in dark rooms on solid black screens at large angles with long exposures on their cameras.

Test the monitor the same way you use it normally.
 
derekb77 said:
Does anyone have any info on the LG 31MU95 (yes that's MU not UM) monitor? It's supposed to be 4k, 4096 x 2160.

They announced at CES but don't see any solid info about price or release date. Here is something from the LG blog:

http://lgusblog.com/product-news/lgs-new-219-ultrawide-monitor-lineup-ces-2014/

I wonder if it's worth waiting for this one instead of the 34UM95.
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I would imagine it would be a TN panel, and still cost a fortune. 32" + 4K displays at the moment are like 2 grand and they aren't even "true" 4K. That thing the real 4096 x 2160, so I would expect it to be around 2 grand at a minimum. If it's an IPS panel like this monitor (I highly highly doubt it), then I would imagine nothing less than a ~3 grand price tag. LG might surprise us and release it cheaper, but that's about where 4K prices stand at that size.

Unless that's in your budget, I wouldn't wait.
 
does anyone have their ps4/xbone connected to this monitor?
how does monitor scaling work with it?
 
Tyrindor said:
I would imagine it would be a TN panel, and still cost a fortune. 32" + 4K displays at the moment are like 2 grand and they aren't even "true" 4K. That thing the real 4096 x 2160, so I would expect it to be around 2 grand at a minimum. If it's an IPS panel like this monitor (I highly highly doubt it), then I would imagine nothing less than a ~3 grand price tag. LG might surprise us and release it cheaper, but that's about where 4K prices stand at that size.

Unless that's in your budget, I wouldn't wait.
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It wouldn't be TN, I'm quite sure everything LG manufactures nowadays is IPS. Also, they sell 4K IPS TVs for <= $1300 now: http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronic...=UTF8&qid=1405032387&sr=8-2&keywords=lg+4k+tv

49" is too big for most to use as a monitor, but Samsung has a 40" one (although VA) that's $1k which I think is the perfect size for 4K: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KSBB84S/ref=twister_B00LD3ILMW

However having a 21:9 monitor I don't want to go back to 16:9 even if it's 4K. The only thing that would make me upgrade is a curved 4K 21:9 display (5120x2160 effective res).
 
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Just got mine in. June 2014, Rev. 02 (says May on box). I got some minor backlight bleeding towards the left corner, none anywhere else... the rest is all IPS glow. I can see why cameras would pick it up but it's not a big deal in real life, you can't see it. The bleeding in the corner can only be seen when the game is very dark or during black loading screens.. it's small but still kind of annoying. I'm almost positive it's due to a screw being too tight, as if you press anywhere on the bezel it does the same in different places. Sadly, the screws are hidden so I don't see an easy way to test this theory without removing the back. 0 dead or stuck pixels.

The picture quality is freaking amazing.... I could not tell this thing is 1000:1 contrast in bright and semi-dark scenes, it looks dang close in black levels to the BL3200PT VA in those cases. In darkest of games (Outlast, Amnesia, etc), that's where the BL3200PT's 3000:1 contrast starts to dominate but games that dark are pretty rare.

EDIT: After an hour with the monitor I can say it is basically flawless outside of the slight bleed in one corner. Stand is filmsy and the monitor whobbles on my desk quite a bit, recommend a better stand - this one only uses two tiny screws. Games look better than i've ever seen, and so far I'm able to max every game i've tested on a single 780 Ti. Fingers really crossed that the bleed doesn't get worse like some people have.

P.S. Anyone recommend a good stand that has the least wobble possible? My desk is on wheels and this has always been an issue.
 
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EDIT: After an hour with the monitor I can say it is basically flawless outside of the slight bleed in one corner. Stand is filmsy and the monitor whobbles on my desk quite a bit, recommend a better stand - this one only uses two tiny screws. Games look better than i've ever seen, and so far I'm able to max every game i've tested on a single 780 Ti. Fingers really crossed that the bleed doesn't get worse like some people have.

P.S. Anyone recommend a good stand that has the least wobble possible? My desk is on wheels and this has always been an issue.
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Yeah the stand is crap...I have mine sitting on a chicken fajita box because it's just the right size.

I'm glad you got a good one....now enjoy it...this might be the best screen in 10 years.
 
Just received mine from B&H Photo. Looks to be a May Rev 0.2 model. I only have one 1"x1" spot of bleed. I will try to post a picture later this evening. The sentiment in the thread is ALL backlight bleed, so I hope this gives someone something to look forward to! I was pretty worried about the bleed issue.
 
voomik said:
Just received mine from B&H Photo. Looks to be a May Rev 0.2 model. I only have one 1"x1" spot of bleed. I will try to post a picture later this evening. The sentiment in the thread is ALL backlight bleed, so I hope this gives someone something to look forward to! I was pretty worried about the bleed issue.
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Errr...mine is June 2014, box says May...
 
Tyrindor said:
P.S. Anyone recommend a good stand that has the least wobble possible? My desk is on wheels and this has always been an issue.
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It sounds like you need to invest in a more sturdy desk. Mine doesn't wobble in the least, but it would take half of the people in this thread to get my desk out of my office. I have another desk that makes my ACD wobble and it's plenty sturdy (desk issues aside).

Edit: Glad to hear that your worry was for nothing. It's a fantastic monitor aside from the stupid bleed problems.
 
brentsg said:
It sounds like you need to invest in a more sturdy desk. Mine doesn't wobble in the least, but it would take half of the people in this thread to get my desk out of my office. I have another desk that makes my ACD wobble and it's plenty sturdy (desk issues aside).

Edit: Glad to hear that your worry was for nothing. It's a fantastic monitor aside from the stupid bleed problems.
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My desk needs to be mobile. :(
 
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