LCD monitor looks better than LCD TV?

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I have an Asus VS228H-P monitor that i got for about $140. I really love it, great design, super slim, no big power adapter, 3.5mm audio jack, excellent display quality... i just love it and im glad i didnt cheap out this time. I would love to have a TV this sharp, clear, and bold, and ive been thinking of buying another of these for a TV in my room, but i need something bigger and i would like to have 2 hdmi ports. So i was looking at TV's at Best Buy and i found a $140 Insignia 24" TV... my dad ended up getting one for himself, so i checked it out to see how it would perform.... i was disappointed.
The TV has an alright design, overall design appearance was fine, but the picture was terrible. When i got up close to it when my dad was watching soccer on it, i could easily see artifacts around the players and other stuff that was contrasting against the bright green grass. It looked like it was displaying a JPEG with lots of artifacts around the edges of objects in the image... like THIS. I also noticed that the image was quite blurry and pixelated overall. When the players with white jerseys were shown against the grass, the two contrasting colors would kinda bleed into each other. The response time must also be horrible since when they kicked the ball into the air, you can see the ball trail... it was like a tail (like when you move your mouse around fast and you see it trail behind), and again the color of the white ball would bleed with the green grass. Overall, it was horrible and was upset because i wanted to buy another of the same tv for my room, but not anymore.
Are all LCD TV's this bad? So blurry and pixelated and just so horrible? I kinda hope its just that model that is that bad, because i dont want to buy a TV only for it to look so bad. Maybe it could be the television feed? We have Time Warner Cable for tv, and it was connected via HDMI. And the cable going to the tv from the Time Warner converter box (no DVR feature) only has one splitter in its path from the main line.

If my Asus monitor is also an LCD display, and so is that Insignia TV, why would the tv look so bad while my asus monitor is crystal clear? Are all LCD TV's that bad? Is it just that particular model of TV that is so shitty? I didnt have a good feeling about an "Insignia" tv, never heard of it. I cant imagine trying to use that TV as a monitor so up close to my face, let alone as a TV across the room, i just cant believe it looks so bad. If i could describe the quality of the TV's display, it would be potato.

Any help and feedback please? Thanks!
 
When i got up close to it when my dad was watching soccer on it, i could easily see artifacts around the players and other stuff that was contrasting against the bright green grass. It looked like it was displaying a JPEG with lots of artifacts around the edges of objects in the image

Was he watching an HD channel.
 
Insignia is not a good brand. It's like getting a Coby brand TV, or some no-name brand. Or one of those Sorny, Panaphonic Tvs one would find in the Simpsons. Just because a TV is LCD, don't assume they are all the same.

If you want the best image from a TV, a high end plasma probably is something to consider instead, if you can find it. Or if rich, go for OLED.
 
Well, one thing TVs usually have going on is a lot 'processing' features. Go into the menus and disable pretty much everything. Set brightness, contrast, sharpness using test images. Color and tint with NTSC colar bars and a blue filter. Then see what that does.

Out of the box with minimal setup? I'd agree monitors tend to look better.
 
Insignia is not a good brand. It's like getting a Coby brand TV, or some no-name brand. Or one of those Sorny, Panaphonic Tvs one would find in the Simpsons. Just because a TV is LCD, don't assume they are all the same.

If you want the best image from a TV, a high end plasma probably is something to consider instead, if you can find it. Or if rich, go for OLED.

But if pc monitors are obviously able to pull of a crystal clear display with 1080p resolution at a very reasonable price, why cant TV's too? Theoretically, if monitors and TV's are nearly the same, shouldnt a TV the same size and price as a $140 monitor with great quality be able to exist? I can understand a TV the same as this $140 monitor that matches its quality be a little more expensive, like $20 more, but almost double usually??
 
But if pc monitors are obviously able to pull of a crystal clear display with 1080p resolution at a very reasonable price, why cant TV's too? Theoretically, if monitors and TV's are nearly the same, shouldnt a TV the same size and price as a $140 monitor with great quality be able to exist? I can understand a TV the same as this $140 monitor that matches its quality be a little more expensive, like $20 more, but almost double usually??

NO, no all monitors are able to produce crystal clear sharp images.. ;).. all depend on brand, Panel and type of Panel.. monitors aren't the same as TV.. specially if we talk about panel quality and we included LCD, LED, OLED or IPS to the mix without even take into consideration a lot of things as Noise Reduction, MPEG Filters, Response time, Contrast Ratio, viewing angle.. many TV's even High-end models can't be used even as monitor because will produce horrible Latency of the image.. and movements will be extremely blurry (specially some cheaps as for example Samsungs that have CMR)
 
But if pc monitors are obviously able to pull of a crystal clear display with 1080p resolution at a very reasonable price, why cant TV's too? Theoretically, if monitors and TV's are nearly the same, shouldnt a TV the same size and price as a $140 monitor with great quality be able to exist? I can understand a TV the same as this $140 monitor that matches its quality be a little more expensive, like $20 more, but almost double usually??

Sure, in theory they can. But it doesn't mean that particular brand you bought is one of them.

An ex. -- years ago I set up a TV my mom. My sister gave her a $1000 40" Magnavox LCD, about a year before most LCDs halved in price. It was pretty terrible. No matter what I did, changing settings, changing cables, nothing seemed to help. It actually looked worse than the CRT she was replacing. I got her to return it, and got her a Sony instead. Night and day as far as quality goes.

Perhaps it's as simple as changing some settings and making sure you were watching a HD channel. Easiest way to test, which is what I assume you did, is have the same exact feed go into the monitor and TV and compare them.

Besides different panels they may have different electronic guts. If every TV was exactly the same, some wouldn't be several thousand, some $150. Rather than go for a $140 TV, you are probably better off splurging and going for one around $500-$600 from a better manufacturer (samsung, sony, etc). It'd also be a more respectable size too. If not, worst case get a monitor with speakers and live with that.
 
NO, no all monitors are able to produce crystal clear sharp images.. ;).. all depend on brand, Panel and type of Panel.. monitors aren't the same as TV.. specially if we talk about panel quality and we included LCD, LED, OLED or IPS to the mix without even take into consideration a lot of things as Noise Reduction, MPEG Filters, Response time, Contrast Ratio, viewing angle.. many TV's even High-end models can't be used even as monitor because will produce horrible Latency of the image.. and movements will be extremely blurry (specially some cheaps as for example Samsungs that have CMR)

I agree not all monitors can be crystal clear. Im saying that if my current $140 Asus 22" monitor is so clear and has excellent performance, shouldnt there also be a TV for around the same price that can produce the same crystal clear display... like if they use the same technology for the display as the monitor is using? That would just make sense, no? My monitor is just an LED LCD TN display, so its not something on the cutting edge of technology that would cost so much.

You say many high end TVs cant be used as a monitor, is that because they are not up to par with quality to be as good as a dedicated monitor? Or because they are not made to be used with a PC as a display and some problems will arise from that?
 
So if it may just be the brand or model of the TV that is the problem, which i hope is the case, what about a Samsung TV? Samsung is a well known and trusted brand, and this model is the highest rated TV for my specifications with 1.8k reviews and a 4.7/5 star rating.

The "Samsung - 32" Class (31-1/2" Diag.) - LED - 1080p - 60Hz - HDTV" model: UN32EH5000FXZA
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...&skuId=4833556&productCategoryId=abcat0101001
And only $250 which is a great price and for a good brand. I only hope it's as good as i imagine.
Would this TV be good enough to be used as a monitor for my PC, as in, good for gaming with not much latency or slow response times, and be sharp enough to read and type on? Of course it would also be used as a TV to watch television.
 
All your problems just sound like bad processing to me. Nothing to do with the actual LCD. Play around with the settings on your TV. Like other's have said, turn off all the fancy stuff and turn down everything. Do you have sharpness on 100 or something? That would make artifacting like hell. TVs and monitors are all the same. The only difference is TVs like to get between the signal and the panel by adding chips that do processing to make the image better (or worse) so they can brag about them on the box and list a million "features". And you bought literally the cheapest TV brand available and you are complaining about picture quality? Your monitor is Asus and also not the cheapest 21" LCD around either, so you could at least get something comparable to Asus in TV land, like Vizio.
 
So if it may just be the brand or model of the TV that is the problem, which i hope is the case, what about a Samsung TV? Samsung is a well known and trusted brand, and this model is the highest rated TV for my specifications with 1.8k reviews and a 4.7/5 star rating.

The "Samsung - 32" Class (31-1/2" Diag.) - LED - 1080p - 60Hz - HDTV" model: UN32EH5000FXZA
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...&skuId=4833556&productCategoryId=abcat0101001
And only $250 which is a great price and for a good brand. I only hope it's as good as i imagine.
Would this TV be good enough to be used as a monitor for my PC, as in, good for gaming with not much latency or slow response times, and be sharp enough to read and type on? Of course it would also be used as a TV to watch television.


Only some TVs are suitable as monitors. I believe it has to do with text, as not all display text as clear as regular monitors do. There was a giant thread somewhere in this forum as to the best TVs to use as monitors.

If you have the money, I'd instead suggest spending like $500-$600 for a 46"+ size TV, and $150-$250 extra for a decent monitor. Use the TV for gaming, use the monitor for regular PC stuff.

Otherwise, if you do get a TV for both purposes, just make sure wherever you get it has a good return policy. BB should be okay (I think)... Costco even better.

Worst case, pick up a 27" 1080p monitor and use it as a TV too. 27" VAs can be had for like $200ish, I think?
 
Only some TVs are suitable as monitors. I believe it has to do with text, as not all display text as clear as regular monitors do. There was a giant thread somewhere in this forum as to the best TVs to use as monitors.

If you have the money, I'd instead suggest spending like $500-$600 for a 46"+ size TV, and $150-$250 extra for a decent monitor. Use the TV for gaming, use the monitor for regular PC stuff.

Otherwise, if you do get a TV for both purposes, just make sure wherever you get it has a good return policy. BB should be okay (I think)... Costco even better.

Worst case, pick up a 27" 1080p monitor and use it as a TV too. 27" VAs can be had for like $200ish, I think?

I would love to do that, get another monitor for my new pc in my room, AND get a TV to watch tv, but i dont have much money, so i was hoping i could get a TV for both purposes. I'll see
 
I would love to do that, get another monitor for my new pc in my room, AND get a TV to watch tv, but i dont have much money, so i was hoping i could get a TV for both purposes. I'll see

In that case, I think you'll have better luck getting a monitor and using it as an occasional TV, rather than the other way around (TV used as a monitor).

So long as you don't want 1440p, there are 27"ers in your price range. It's not a great size for a TV, but should be watchable assuming you don't sit like 12 ft from it. I know some of the BenQ 27" VAs have been under $200. I'm not sure how great they are for gaming, but that depends on how much ghosting is acceptable to you.
 
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