Supreme Court: No More Warrantless Cell Phone Searches

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This is a good ruling all the way around. Requiring a warrant just seems like common sense. I can't believe we had to go all the way to the Supreme Court over this.

The US Supreme Court unanimously held Wednesday that cell phones are protected from warrantless searches, ruling on two cases in which police searches of mobile devices led to long prison sentences. The decision provides a vindication for personal privacy and the Fourth Amendment's protections against unreasonable search at a time when so much of an individual's personal life is available on their mobile device.
 
Yet the cops will still search your phone regardless. You say otherwise and you get your ass slammed on the pavement and hauled off to jail for arguing your rights.
 
Now they just need to come down to common sense and do the same for e-mail. We provided our letters to a 3rd party service in the past - the USPS - and the 4th still stood. Just because it's digitized and technically easier to access means it legally should be. In fact, that's the same as the damn Aereo decision. Just because technically they use 1:1 antennae and not 1 big one, the legal spirit is still violated.
 
we need moar privacy...theoretically hypotheticallism, if I had had sent noodie pics, i really dont' want a cop looking at my junk, or have that stored anywhere besides at&t servers, where at least I know, its only the nsa looking
 
Yet the cops will still search your phone regardless. You say otherwise and you get your ass slammed on the pavement and hauled off to jail for arguing your rights.

Stop resisting their right to find a crime for you!


What's funny is that if we swap out this for the NSA. Some would argue "if you have nothing to hide, then so what?"
 
Yet the cops will still search your phone regardless. You say otherwise and you get your ass slammed on the pavement and hauled off to jail for arguing your rights.

So let them, don't give them permission, but don't start reciting constitutional rights to them. If they find any incriminating evidence on you, you counter with illegal search, if you're feeling particularly snippy you could call the ACLU on them and let them pay for the lawyers.
 
So let them, don't give them permission, but don't start reciting constitutional rights to them. If they find any incriminating evidence on you, you counter with illegal search, if you're feeling particularly snippy you could call the ACLU on them and let them pay for the lawyers.

I guess it goes without saying (yeah, I know....I'm saying it) to password protect your phone and enable encryption. It's a pain the ass, but......
 
Will not change LEOs behavior.
LEOs will just lie and say you gave them permission.
 
I guess it goes without saying (yeah, I know....I'm saying it) to password protect your phone and enable encryption. It's a pain the ass, but......

Huge pain in the ass, but I do it anyway. I'm required to under the BYOD policy at my work anyway, but I'd still do it if I wasn't. Having to put in a pin or pw all the time sucks though.
 
"if you have nothing to hide, then so what?"

Everyone involved with the NSA working on that project is breaking the law. So in fact they are criminals yes?
Hacking
Stealing
Spying

Last I checked, that shit was illegal.
 
I wonder if this means they can still take my phone and delete the video when I'm recording them, as long as they don't "search" it in the process.
 
So let them, don't give them permission, but don't start reciting constitutional rights to them. If they find any incriminating evidence on you, you counter with illegal search, if you're feeling particularly snippy you could call the ACLU on them and let them pay for the lawyers.

Actually getting the ACLU to take your case is a one in a million long shot.
 
Will not change LEOs behavior.
LEOs will just lie and say you gave them permission.

All arrests and the events leading up to it, should be recorded.

We have cameras that are less than an ounce now. There's no excuse for police not using them, unless it's to protect crooked cops.
 
Now they just need to come down to common sense and do the same for e-mail. We provided our letters to a 3rd party service in the past - the USPS - and the 4th still stood. Just because it's digitized and technically easier to access means it legally should be. In fact, that's the same as the damn Aereo decision. Just because technically they use 1:1 antennae and not 1 big one, the legal spirit is still violated.

One has to wonder if it's just a coincidence that the USPS had an impossible burden placed on them by the government that no other entity has to deal with. You might wonder if they have been purposefully set up to fail so that archaic ideas like the 4th Amendment can be taken out of the situation.
 
Yet the cops will still search your phone regardless. You say otherwise and you get your ass slammed on the pavement and hauled off to jail for arguing your rights.

Probably. But is that any reason we we should just give up?

Do not consent to searches. Use your phone to record arrests that you see. Don't give these fuckers an inch.
 
Crime lesson #1) Learn to shut the fuck up. Consent to nothing, say nothing other than "i want a lawyer". At least in the US. Not sure about other countries.

2) Be polite. Answer respectfully, even when disagreeing with them. Most crappy situations can be avoided by not being an asshole out of the gate.

3) Never admit to or agree to anything. Even if you think the cops are right.

4) Don't get tricked into a consent situation because they use cleverly worded statements and straight out lies. "I'm going to have to search your car because I see a knife in your back seat, ok?" Most people tend to agree with a statement ending in "ok" by replying similarly "ok", especially when you don't think there is another option. The knife in the back seat is not illegal, and therefore not probable cause. The cop lied intentionally. What he really asked was if he could search your car, and then you accidentally consented to it.
 
2) Be polite. Answer respectfully, even when disagreeing with them. Most crappy situations can be avoided by not being an asshole out of the gate.

3) Never admit to or agree to anything. Even if you think the cops are right.

4) Don't get tricked into a consent situation because they use cleverly worded statements and straight out lies. "I'm going to have to search your car because I see a knife in your back seat, ok?" Most people tend to agree with a statement ending in "ok" by replying similarly "ok", especially when you don't think there is another option. The knife in the back seat is not illegal, and therefore not probable cause. The cop lied intentionally. What he really asked was if he could search your car, and then you accidentally consented to it.

The adjunct to that would be to remain silent at all times. Not saying anything is not illegal. They can't do a thing at that point. They neither have your consent/denial or admission of anything. SAY NOTHING!!! They will ask you if you understand that, you will say NOTHING. They will ask you if you are impaired, say NOTHING. Comply with any behavioral commands like; stand over here, take your hands out of your pocket, etc, but do not speak. Be polite, but not aggressive. SAY NOTHING!!! They will lie, cheat, steal if they have to try and get you to consent to anything, so say NOTHING. Consent to NOTHING. You can terminate your encounter with a LEO by simply asking if you are being detained or are free to leave. He will obfuscate and try to lead you astray. Ask if you are being detained or are free to leave. If he says Yes you are free to leave, then leave asap. If he says no, then you are being detained. At that point say NOTHING without asking for an attorney being present. If you are then being arrested don't resist. Hope you win.
 
Good call by the Supreme Court, and lol, the [H] LEO Conspiracy Brigade never fails to entertain with their drivel.
 
Yet the cops will still search your phone regardless. You say otherwise and you get your ass slammed on the pavement and hauled off to jail for arguing your rights.

And enduring that humiliation may make the difference between conviction and dismissal.
 
if you have nothing to hide, then so what?"

Everyone involved with the NSA working on that project is breaking the law. So in fact they are criminals yes?
Hacking
Stealing
Spying

Last I checked, that shit was illegal.

Not for the NSA because American Law protects Americans, not foreigners and the NSA mission is foreign intelligence collection. They are payed to spy, payed to hack, it's their job. Has been for longer then I have been alive and that's awhile now.
 
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