34" 21:9 UltraWide Displays (3440x1440) - LG UM95/UM65 & Dell U3415W

looks like Anandtech just posted their review of the UM95

http://anandtech.com/show/8057/lg-34um95-monitor-review

summary:

If I sound like I've come away liking the LG 34UM95 a lot, I really have. It has surprised me at what a difference the extra vertical resolution makes with 21:9. It does a wonderful job as a single monitor while not impacting my ability to multitask at all. Even though I don't play many games that would utilize the extra field-of-view I would still strongly consider the LG 34UM95 as my only monitor. It performs very well on the bench, it looks very good in use, and most importantly it helps me get things done. If you've previously discarded 21:9 as a niche, obscure format, you should try out the 34UM95. It has managed to convince me that 21:9 isn't so much of a niche anymore.
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Neutrino said:
looks like Anandtech just posted their review of the UM95

http://anandtech.com/show/8057/lg-34um95-monitor-review

summary:
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They said:

Post-calibration the LG 34UM95 is good but not excellent. For most people it should be just fine, but for graphics professionals the extra saturation will pose a problem. LG also provides their own calibration software but I was unable to get it to run correctly on my MacBook Pro or PC. Even when it detected the display correctly it is unable to use my i1Pro or i1DisplayPro meters to calibrate itself. Assuming this performs similar to my last experience using it, CalMAN will still provide superior results as the LG display lacks an internal LUT.
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It does have a hardware LUT, what are they talking about?
 
Lol yeah I just finished reading your review (enjoyed it thanks :) ) where you mentioned internal LUT and realized they claimed the opposite.

Could there be two versions? Maybe the US versions lacks it while your EU version has it.
 
Neutrino said:
Lol yeah I just finished reading your review (enjoyed it thanks :) ) where you mentioned internal LUT and realized they claimed the opposite.

Could there be two versions? Maybe the US versions lacks it while your EU version has it.
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Far as I've seen there's only one model and the only regional difference is the bundled cables in the box!

Anandtech could not get LG True Color Finder working though so that would explain why they thought there was no HW LUT since only the LG software can utilise it at present.

All these new LG monitors have a hardware LUT too it seems. The 29" I also have right now has it.
 
Was anyone else surprised by the input lag AnandTech reported?

I measure lag at a scant 18ms. For almost all gamers this should be fast enough, and with the extra wide view you’ll potentially see more of the environment when playing games. Of course, this is dependent on the game, and some games will simply crop the top and bottom rather than expanding your field of view.
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Is that with displayport?

Others in this thread/forum were reporting much worse times, what could be cause of the discrepancy?

This monitor sounds like a perfect buy (from that article)
 
[H]appymeal;1040904935 said:
Was anyone else surprised by the input lag AnandTech reported?

Is that with displayport?

Others in this thread/forum were reporting much worse times, what could be cause of the discrepancy?

This monitor sounds like a perfect buy (from that article)
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Has anyone else actually measured the input lag? I haven't read the last 10 or so pages, but from what I recall most of the people complaining just felt like the input lag was high.
 
Selo said:
Acording to this AOC rep it will be in stock september in UK

source

Was hoping for a summer release..
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Just emailed AOC on Monday, and they told me it should be out in the fall for the US.

Was also hoping it'd be out a lot sooner.
 
[H]appymeal;1040904935 said:
Was anyone else surprised by the input lag AnandTech reported?



Is that with displayport?

Others in this thread/forum were reporting much worse times, what could be cause of the discrepancy?

This monitor sounds like a perfect buy (from that article)
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I think that's accurate. There was another user here with screenshots showing a 17ms input lag he recorded. My order for this is on backorder still, but a friend of mine got his at Fry's.
I played BF4 on it some and I don't notice any input lag issues over my current monitor, PB278Q
 
The Leo Bodnar device measures the monitors pixel respsonse times along with the delay. Prad measured a 13ms signal delay vs the typical 18-30ms for high res, multi-input monitors.
 
From what I recall, the people complaining about high input lag were comparing the monitor to 120Hz, low-latency gaming monitors.

When compared with the average workstation monitor, the 34UM95 seems to perform quite well in terms of input lag.
 
I'm planning to use an Ergotron LX (HP branded one).
It is rated for 20 pounds and the 34UM95 weighs 6.7kg without stand, or about 15 pounds.
 
alamone said:
I'm planning to use an Ergotron LX (HP branded one).
It is rated for 20 pounds and the 34UM95 weighs 6.7kg without stand, or about 15 pounds.
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I don't currently have a stand but I'm ordering an LX instead of the MX for this display as well. Seems like better flexibility and the LX can handle the 34UM95's weight with no problem.
 
alamone said:
I'm planning to use an Ergotron LX (HP branded one).
It is rated for 20 pounds and the 34UM95 weighs 6.7kg without stand, or about 15 pounds.
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Be careful with the LX stand. The MX needed to be tightened pretty heavily to hold the 34UM95 even with it being rated for 30 lbs.
 
AgentQ said:
From what I recall, the people complaining about high input lag were comparing the monitor to 120Hz, low-latency gaming monitors.

When compared with the average workstation monitor, the 34UM95 seems to perform quite well in terms of input lag.
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EXACTLY ;) I recall that as well. If you're used to 60hz IPS, then the input lag is nothing, you'll love the gaming.

If you're used to 120-144hz TN screens with 1-2ms gray to gray then you're not going to like gaming on this monitor. I'm not sure why a 120hz person would even bother with this monitor and then complain about input lag.

That's like going from 21:9 monitor to a 16:9 monitor and then saying that you're not happy with the horizontal width.
 
cc2096 said:
Be careful with the LX stand. The MX needed to be tightened pretty heavily to hold the 34UM95 even with it being rated for 30 lbs.
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Not for me, I left it at the same tightening position as it was on when I had the Dell U2713HM on there. The MX is the better stand by all accounts especially for finishing and style. It's solid polished brushed steel/aluminium and looks/feels it is worth every penny!

To put into perspective, I had a 24" Hazro on there previously and that was an all metal/aluminium monitor weighing 11KG. The 34UM95 weighs under 7KG without the stand.
 
robbiekhan said:
And my thoughts on it at Petapixel as an editing workstation setup:

http://petapixel.com/2014/06/11/sold-dual-screen-editing-setup-favor-34-inch-monitor-awesome/
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I don't understand your comment about the PPI near the end. One of the reasons I went 4K was the higher PPI so text and graphics would look finer and so be easier on the eye. Think of the difference between a laser printer printing at 300 dpi and 600 dpi.

And I'm surprised you didn't keep a portrait monitor: I find it better for websites like [H] and for online forums generally.
 
Quartz-1 said:
I don't understand your comment about the PPI near the end. One of the reasons I went 4K was the higher PPI so text and graphics would look finer and so be easier on the eye. Think of the difference between a laser printer printing at 300 dpi and 600 dpi.

And I'm surprised you didn't keep a portrait monitor: I find it better for websites like [H] and for online forums generally.
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Text is smaller so while it may look sharper or "finer it's not natively the ideal size like it is on a 27" 1440P (and this 34"), for example. That's my point. I guess many people won't fully appreciate this point though because it's not one of the things they look for when shopping at th4 K segment at present.
 
Yes but it's not the same as native on a better panel is it... A compromise has to be made by doing that and for me and many others native is more desirable.

I get it, you like 4K as do others but for the rest of us it's not good enough "yet" and for that reason we have screens like the 34UM95 which offer more scope and quality.
 
Yeah if it was for a sole use then yes there'd be a point but these displays are not going to only be used for one thing and given they're used on OSes that support countless different applications and the majority of them aren't aware of what's outside of their own environment. I guess it could be compared on a similar level to wide gamut displays vs non colour managed applications too.
 
Welp, I decided to go for an RMA with LG. We'll see how the replacement looks...
 
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BizzBuy has it for $1400 via Amazon but I refuse to pay that price. At least someone has it in stock now so maybe the regular stores will have it soon too.

J-Electronics has them for $1240. Still too much. Not paying over $1000 for one.
 
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Man, this LG monitor looks amazing. But I just feel that, if it doesn't have DP1.3/1.2a, it's just not future proof enough. Heck, I'll even take it with G-Sync... Timing is just off!
 
Skott said:
BizzBuy has it for $1400 via Amazon but I refuse to pay that price. At least someone has it in stock now so maybe the regular stores will have it soon too.

J-Electronics has them for $1240. Still too much. Not paying over $1000 for one.
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1040788-REG/lg_electronics_34um95_34_ultrawide_qhd_led.html has them listed for $999, but no availability til June 30th atleast. However, they intermittently list it as $899. I got my pre-order locked in at the $899. No tax or shipping charge either. They are a trusted reputable seller as well
 
Yeah, I saw that but not feeling like pre ordering. It could be months more before they get them in. I just dont feel like gambling it. Not yet anyway.
 
There have been reports that the latest Nvidia drivers enable 4K @ 60 Hz on the HDMI port. I wonder if the UM95 will accept full resolution at 60 Hz on the HDMI port?
 
Skott said:
Yeah, I saw that but not feeling like pre ordering. It could be months more before they get them in. I just dont feel like gambling it. Not yet anyway.
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I don't have any experience with B&H pre-orders, but I wouldn't be surprised you could just cancel your pre-order at B&H if it shows up cheaper and/or in-stock elsewhere.
 
Surprise Surprise.... Canadian distribution dates have been pushed back yet again for this monitor :rolleyes:

The new ETA's appear to be:

British Columbia = July 2nd.
Ontario = August 8th.

I'm not sure why Ontario is getting them a month later, seems a bit odd to me. However the BC warehouse does seem to have the most pre-orders against right now.
 
I think its because stores are getting different release dates from LG and when they can get stock to them. Obviously LG has some production problems. They sold some and then had none for a while and just now starting to see a few available again. Not a good start. :mad:
 
The LG panel was in stock at Newegg for a few hours or so yesterday at $999. What's the concern with it not having Displayport 1.2a or 1.3? Is variable refresh or daisy chaining multiple 4k monitors that important? This monitor doesn't have a strobed backlight or >60Hz refresh, so I don't really see the point aside from reduced tearing in limited circumstances.
 
I've been planning to upgrade my computer once my screen comes in and then down the road pick up a 27" as a second screen, but with no way of knowing when I'll actually get my 34UM95 I'm starting to think maybe I shouldn't wait on the upgrades/second monitor. At least that way I'll have a 27" to hold me over until I it comes in. Hmm... Decisions, decisions.
 
Looks like the Fry's stores in southern California just got a bunch in. I may make a short drive this weekend and give up on my AMZN preorder.
 
I purchased one through newegg for $999. I also got my pre order in for the $899 at B&H. We'll see.

Has one took these ultra wides and stacked it vertically from each other? I might do that but I want to see it.
 
Friend has his, and anandtech talked about the same problem......that slight IPS glow / backlight bleed sometimes noticable in the lower right corner, and then the white uniformity issues in the top left and right corners. Also, some people had the top two VESA mounting holes just fall inward into the monitor and rattle around.

Slight issues, but I wonder if that's what the delay is about. Maybe Dell's delay too. I'm hoping they're fixing these issues
 
The anandtech review was very favorable but made mention of "a scant 18ms" in regards to input lag and that kind of made me chuckle. Since when would a figure like that be considered scant and especially in a gaming context?
 
Q-BZ said:
The anandtech review was very favorable but made mention of "a scant 18ms" in regards to input lag and that kind of made me chuckle. Since when would a figure like that be considered scant and especially in a gaming context?
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well perhaps it's not "scant" in the [H] context of hardcore gaming users with super fast 120Hz TN displays

but considering the design (IPS) and the likely intended demographic IMO 18ms does qualify as scant
 
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