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Looking for a pair of bookshelf speakers for my PC due to the fact that the rubber surround ring for the sub finally tore on my 10+ year old original v.2-400 Klipsch PC system. I know I can get a replacement ring for $2x, but there are other issues with the speakers/control pod as well, I'd rather just retire the whole set.

As for new speakers, I want to start with a quality 2.0 system.
6" or 6.5" woofers so I can get by without a sub for the moment.
I would like to stay around $250-$300.
Cherry finish is a plus as it would match my other furniture, not a requirement by any means.
 
If you can stretch your budget a bit, Amazon has the JBL LSR 308 Speakers on Sale for US$400 a pair, down from US$500. These are 8" speakers so you probably won't need a sub. These are pro monitors so no cherry finish, sorry. No grilles either and you'll likely need to get a set of RCA to XLR cables as well (about US$20 from Monoprice). On the other hand, as compared to your old rig you will basically be getting an entirely new music collection since things will sound so much better. This isn't just my opinion, do an online search for them and their little brothers, the LSR 305s, to see what others think. I have the 305s and adore them, but if you've just gotta have that extra bass then the 308s are a very good value.
 
Too bad you didn't chime-in last week. PSB is selling-off their Image line-up & was available in their Dark Cherry. I bought these from Crutchfield for $279.99 for the pair. Insane deal!

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-aOD2DUmJcLH/p_760IMGB6C/PSB-Image-B6-Dark-Cherry.html

Look around & I'm sure you'll find a pair in Dark Cherry. A simply outstanding speaker for the money. Even @ $349.00 these bookshelf's ROCK! Here's a link that still has a few left:

http://www.saturdayaudio.com/picturepages/psb_bstock.htm
 
Regular bookshelf speakers are not meant for near field listening, which computer use is. Get the JBLs or for example Behringer active monitors which suite much better to the job.

On the plus side you won't need to mess with amplifiers, you can plug the speakers directly to your sound card using a 3,5mm plug to XLR converter cable.
 
BOOnie: I completely disagree! My PSB B4's sound perfect with my NAD D3020 hybrid amp. I sit less then 3' away & they are perfect with my sub! Sorry, I think you know everything about speakers, but you don't!
 
B00nie said:
Regular bookshelf speakers are not meant for near field listening, which computer use is. Get the JBLs or for example Behringer active monitors which suite much better to the job.

On the plus side you won't need to mess with amplifiers, you can plug the speakers directly to your sound card using a 3,5mm plug to XLR converter cable.
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Tell that to my Paradigm Studio 10s... Perfect for nearfield and a very high praised speaker for it's size. Most impressive is it's SPL output for it's size.
 
I wasn't looking for something as large as 8", but now that you've got my mind going, I reallly like the idea if I'm going without a sub. The JBL LSR 308's being self powered is definitely a plus as well. $400 is just a bit more than I really want to spend. Top contender so far though, love the 8", I'm a big believer in the whole "moving air makes sound, you've got a move a lot of air to fill a room with sound"

I'd be a buyer of those PSB B6's in dark cherry if they were actually available for $279. That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. At $350 after I add an amp I'm back at $400...for $400 black speakers, I'd rather get the 8" JBL's.
 
I think you'd be very surprised at the amount and quality of the bass you can get even from the 305s. Not to mention how loud the 305s can get. I'm speaking as PC speakers, where the speakers are on your desk flanking your monitor and you are sitting a few feet from them. My main reservation with the 308s is that they are likely overkill as PC speakers. Certainly they, and any other 8"er, will take up a lot of space on your desk.

Knowing what I know now, I advise you to get the 305s for now, and spend the rest of your budget on some stands to raise the tweeters up to ear level. Heck, even some bricks would get the job done if you're too poor to afford stands. This should keep you calm for a while and you can then save your pennies and later score a JBL LSR 310s to fill in the bass.
 
Speakers don't really fit on my desk with my monitor setup, they're on stands now. The fronts anyways, the rears are suspended from the ceiling.

As nice as those M3-8's look, I'm not ready to drop $600 on speakers.
 
UMASS, Venomous: Why would I want to tell something to your abused bookshelf speakers? If you're too clueless to understand that bookshelfs are not nearfield monitors and will perform suboptimal in that use, it's your problem not mine.

You may THINK they work just fine while in reality they don't. Why? Because you've never heard the proper setup in the first place - or can't tell the difference. High quality audio is not everyones cup of tea. Some people are completely satisfied with setups that sound like molten lava poured in someone elses ears.
 
I use a pair of Dynaudio C1 IIs nearfield and they are just fine. Also the industry standard for measuring bookshelf speakers and powered monitors are the same, both at 1m @ 2.83vrms, if a bookshelf speaker can't perform well in a 1 m on-axis measurement it will be reviewed badly in publications and engineers know this, so if there's anything in common between bookshelf speakers and powered monitors it is they are both designed to measure well in identical conditions.
 
dragonageinquisition said:
I use a pair of Dynaudio C1 IIs nearfield and they are just fine. Also the industry standard for measuring bookshelf speakers and powered monitors are the same, both at 1m @ 2.83vrms, if a bookshelf speaker can't perform well in a 1 m on-axis measurement it will be reviewed badly in publications and engineers know this, so if there's anything in common between bookshelf speakers and powered monitors it is they are both designed to measure well in identical conditions.
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That's great, except near 1 meter distance is no longer near field with bookshelf speakers.

The near field is the area very close to the machine where the sound pressure level may vary significantly with a small change in position. The area extends to a distance less than the wavelength of the lowest frequency emitted from the machine, or at less than twice the greatest dimension of the machine, whichever distance is the greater. Sound pressure measurements in this region should be avoided.
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If you use regular bookshelf speakers in near field, all sorts of surprising phenomenon may occur. The responses of the tweeter and the bass unit may not fully integrate in near field for example. The angle of the speaker to the listener may become critical in near field unless the speaker is raised to the ear level. The type of crossover (butterworth, linkwitz-riley, etc) and the steepness of the slopes also affect how good or well the speaker behaves off-axis vertically. Linkwitz-Riley works much better vertically but most passive bookshelfs are implemented with 6/12db/oct butterworth. A 24db/oct Linkwitz-Riley would be unfeasibly expensive and complicated to implement passively especially considering it makes little difference in far-field listening.

So your bookshelf speakers may produce sound just fine even in near field. They may even sound relatively good compared to some logicrap $50 boxes. But they most likely won't perform as they should.
 
B00nie said:
UMASS, Venomous: Why would I want to tell something to your abused bookshelf speakers? If you're too clueless to understand that bookshelfs are not nearfield monitors and will perform suboptimal in that use, it's your problem not mine.

You may THINK they work just fine while in reality they don't. Why? Because you've never heard the proper setup in the first place - or can't tell the difference. High quality audio is not everyones cup of tea. Some people are completely satisfied with setups that sound like molten lava poured in someone elses ears.
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No it is your problem. You, again, think you have the One True Way(tm) and anyone who doesn't agree with you completely and unreservedly is wrong.

You seriously need to chill, be less abrasive, and open to the idea that maybe, just maybe, there are other ways of doing things and more information out there.

As a simple example on point, here's an older article from Sound On Sound about this very topic. The TLDR version is that the B&W DM303, a HiFi bookshelf speaker, is actually more suited for small room nearfield monitoring than a KRK K-ROK. However the Wharfedale Diamond 8.2 was basically equal to the 303, and is targeted as a studio monitor.

There are "home theater" speakers that are great for close setups and "pro" speakers that are not so good for it.

Seriously man, you need to be less abrasive and less hostile to setups other than what you yourself might wish to use.
 
Sycraft said:
No it is your problem. You, again, think you have the One True Way(tm) and anyone who doesn't agree with you completely and unreservedly is wrong.

You seriously need to chill, be less abrasive, and open to the idea that maybe, just maybe, there are other ways of doing things and more information out there.

As a simple example on point, here's an older article from Sound On Sound about this very topic. The TLDR version is that the B&W DM303, a HiFi bookshelf speaker, is actually more suited for small room nearfield monitoring than a KRK K-ROK. However the Wharfedale Diamond 8.2 was basically equal to the 303, and is targeted as a studio monitor.

There are "home theater" speakers that are great for close setups and "pro" speakers that are not so good for it.

Seriously man, you need to be less abrasive and less hostile to setups other than what you yourself might wish to use.
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No, you need to stop giving people wrong kinds of answers based on limited knowledge. Your SOS article handled a limited selection of 4 PASSIVE speakers in a very limited fashion, they did not even attempt to delve into off-axis behaviour or crossover design which is often critical in near field.

Even if their sample home speaker happened to pass for nearfield use (on axis and apparently they did not make actual near field measurements rather than relied on 1m graphs), there's absolutely no garantee some other model will simply because they're not designed for that use. You choose your hardware according to what they're designed for, not in blind shoot hoping it may perform or not.

For the reasons I mentioned earlyer a typical home bookshelf will sound off balance and incoherent especially if it's being held on the computer table below your ear. This is due to the radiating angle of the drivers in vertical plane combined to the butterworth crossover - and the fact that your bookshelf speakers designer hasn't designed it to be used steep off axis vertically anyway.

If someone is going to get near field use speakers, the absolutely best bet is speakers that were designed for that use.

Naturally like with any speaker you should always test and compare your purchase selections in your home in your listening position before buying.
 
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Arx A1b are still my favorite near field speakers, although I don't know where they disappeared to. It looks like Chance bought out Arx, who bought out Acculine. Looks like a new model is coming out this summer, the A1rx-c. If they or that Chane site is legit I do not know.
 
HeavensCloud said:
Arx A1b are still my favorite near field speakers, although I don't know where they disappeared to. It looks like Chance bought out Arx, who bought out Acculine. Looks like a new model is coming out this summer, the A1rx-c. If they or that Chane site is legit I do not know.
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Chane Music Cinema is legit. Chase Home Theater and The Audio Insider merged to form Chane Music Cinema. I was always curious about Acculine and Arx speakers, I almost went with Arx instead of MartinLogan. I'm thinking of picking up a pair of those A1rx-c speakers for my rear surrounds and go 7.1 since a speaker shoot over at Home Theater Shack revealed that the Arx A5 was a tonal match to ML's Motion 12's. So I hope the A1rx-c follows suit.
 
Kueller said:
Speakers don't really fit on my desk with my monitor setup, they're on stands now. The fronts anyways, the rears are suspended from the ceiling.

As nice as those M3-8's look, I'm not ready to drop $600 on speakers.
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Good Grief! What on earth was going on in those interim posts?

Kueller, what can I say? I don't work for JBL, I only own some of their speakers. I don't know if the 305s are the best speaker out there for their regular price of US$300 per pair, let alone their current sale price of US$240 per pair, but as an owner I can honestly say I am no longer in the hunt for any replacements.

I'm trying to help you calculate an overall price tag for your upgrade. If you've already got stands that will lift the speaker's tweeters up to ear level (and this is important!), then that is that much less for you to spend in order to upgrade. The JBLs are self powered, so you need not worry about an external amp or receiver. If you've never used Pro gear before, then you'll likely need some new cables, but that can be obtained, shipped, for less than $40 from Monoprice, likely much less.

And again, this won't be a subtle upgrade from your ten year old Klipsch system.

You may not want to spend the money now, but once you have you will understand what you have spent the money on!
 
I've been very impressed with my Alesis M1 Active MKII Speakers, been using them for the past 12 years or so on my PC.
Currently on sale for $293 from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Alesis-Active-Bi-Amplified-Reference-Monitor/dp/B0000AM67V

These only come in black and no covering.
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uses an XLR cable, so you need cables for it, I use XLR to RCA male and then a 3.5mm to RCA female cable.
 
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Eman D. Rahym said:
Good Grief! What on earth was going on in those interim posts?

Kueller, what can I say? I don't work for JBL, I only own some of their speakers. I don't know if the 305s are the best speaker out there for their regular price of US$300 per pair, let alone their current sale price of US$240 per pair, but as an owner I can honestly say I am no longer in the hunt for any replacements.

I'm trying to help you calculate an overall price tag for your upgrade. If you've already got stands that will lift the speaker's tweeters up to ear level (and this is important!), then that is that much less for you to spend in order to upgrade. The JBLs are self powered, so you need not worry about an external amp or receiver. If you've never used Pro gear before, then you'll likely need some new cables, but that can be obtained, shipped, for less than $40 from Monoprice, likely much less.

And again, this won't be a subtle upgrade from your ten year old Klipsch system.

You may not want to spend the money now, but once you have you will understand what you have spent the money on!
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Yep, I've heard/read nothing but impressive comments about the JBL's. Plus they're on sale for $240.

When bundled, AMS even throws in a starter pack:

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-JBL-LSR305-LIST
 
Is that a powered monitor or active monitor? They use both descriptions on the same product.

Edit: it seems it is an active monitor despite the misleading naming.
 
B00nie said:
That's great, except near 1 meter distance is no longer near field with bookshelf speakers.



If you use regular bookshelf speakers in near field, all sorts of surprising phenomenon may occur. The responses of the tweeter and the bass unit may not fully integrate in near field for example. The angle of the speaker to the listener may become critical in near field unless the speaker is raised to the ear level. The type of crossover (butterworth, linkwitz-riley, etc) and the steepness of the slopes also affect how good or well the speaker behaves off-axis vertically. Linkwitz-Riley works much better vertically but most passive bookshelfs are implemented with 6/12db/oct butterworth. A 24db/oct Linkwitz-Riley would be unfeasibly expensive and complicated to implement passively especially considering it makes little difference in far-field listening.

So your bookshelf speakers may produce sound just fine even in near field. They may even sound relatively good compared to some logicrap $50 boxes. But they most likely won't perform as they should.
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I have a couple of pairs of nearfield monitors (KRK Rokkit 5 and M-Audio BX5) and I've run YPAO from my seating distance on them and my Dynaudios require far less room correction than those so-called nearfield monitors.

I've never heard Dynaudio Signature speakers compared to $50 Logitech speakers before, and knowing how Dynaudio interchanges their bookshelf and studio monitor lines with active versions for studio mastering, I really suspect you don't actually know what you are talking about.
 
dragonageinquisition said:
I have a couple of pairs of nearfield monitors (KRK Rokkit 5 and M-Audio BX5) and I've run YPAO from my seating distance on them and my Dynaudios require far less room correction than those so-called nearfield monitors.

I've never heard Dynaudio Signature speakers compared to $50 Logitech speakers before, and knowing how Dynaudio interchanges their bookshelf and studio monitor lines with active versions for studio mastering, I really suspect you don't actually know what you are talking about.
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You can suspect whatever you want and it won't change the facts lol.

What did you use for measurements and what sort of room correction do you apply to the problem area that is the crossover frequency in vertical plane? Or did you skip or fail to understand anything from my text? I'll give you the benefit of a doubt with the Dynaudio and interchangeability with nearfield monitors. That would be a bit odd though since general design requirements are different for near field monitors and bookshelf/stand speakers. That being said, if you found one exception to the rule it makes no difference. The OP probably will have some other brand of bookshelf.

Edit: The Dynaudio C1 does indeed seem to be designed more as a near-field monitor than a bookshelf. It's near-field and anechoic measurements are excellent but its room response is pretty grim to look at (source: Stereophile review of 2008):

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The Stereophile reviewer actually verified exactly what I was talking about - the speaker that is designed to work well in near field does not necessarily have the correct balance in far-field anymore and vice versa.

At that moment I learned two things about the C1: That it was capable of startlingly realistic portrayals of complex orchestral passages—the orchestra really sounded real—and that, in my room, its treble was a little suppressed.

Once I'd heard it, this last characteristic was apparent from a better listening position. Adjusting the speaker positions and toe-ins and listening in the nearfield mitigated the effect. If, as many of us do, you listen to a lot of overbright pop recordings, this could be a virtue. And if you listen mostly in the nearfield, you'll experience a frequency balance that's very close to natural.
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heflys20 said:
Yep, I've heard/read nothing but impressive comments about the JBL's. Plus they're on sale for $240.

When bundled, AMS even throws in a starter pack:

http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-JBL-LSR305-LIST
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What's the point of the volume controller out of curiosity?
As opposed to controlling volume at the OS or application level.

I'm leaning toward getting the LSR 308 bundle:
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-JBL-LSR308-LIST

Same price as amazon, but comes with some cables I'll need anyways.
 
Kueller said:
What's the point of the volume controller out of curiosity?
As opposed to controlling volume at the OS or application level.
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You want to maximize the signal to noise ratio. Sources should be set at the highest it can without distortion. Volume should be controlled in the preamp.
 
Kueller said:
What's the point of the volume controller out of curiosity?
As opposed to controlling volume at the OS or application level.

I'm leaning toward getting the LSR 308 bundle:
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-JBL-LSR308-LIST

Same price as amazon, but comes with some cables I'll need anyways.
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The volume controller makes it easier to hook up to the PC using standard cables, XLR to phono jack and then 3.5mm to 3.5mm or 3.5mm to phono jack.
I'm using custom cables with XLR to RCA Male and then a cable with 3.5mm to RCA male with RCA Bullets.
My XLR cables were originally made for a JVC Industrial S-VHS editing deck to an audio mixer attached to an Amiga video toaster system when our video editing was tape based.
 
|Tch0rT| said:
You want to maximize the signal to noise ratio. Sources should be set at the highest it can without distortion. Volume should be controlled in the preamp.
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That and software volume controllers are not that reliable. It has happened to me many times in the past that a bad app or other malfunction has turned the OS volume to the max.

If you have a pro level active speaker hooked up, you don't want to try to see how loud it gets.
 
B00nie said:
UMASS, Venomous: Why would I want to tell something to your abused bookshelf speakers? If you're too clueless to understand that bookshelfs are not nearfield monitors and will perform suboptimal in that use, it's your problem not mine.

You may THINK they work just fine while in reality they don't. Why? Because you've never heard the proper setup in the first place - or can't tell the difference. High quality audio is not everyones cup of tea. Some people are completely satisfied with setups that sound like molten lava poured in someone elses ears.
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You're one of those guys who reads and tries to pass themself off as an expert. I bet you don't even own or even heard speakers we are discussing, have you?
 
The funny thing about people who shit on other people's opinions when it comes to audio stuff like this is that in the end what's good audio or not is entirely subjective.

Yes, you can point at some objective numbers, but that doesn't mean the person who just dropped $5k on a speaker system and then "smile curved" the shit out of it with an equalizer has to care at all what you think.

You may not like how it sounds, and I may not like how it sounds, but if the person who owns the gear likes it and is happy with it, they give exactly zero fucks what you or I or anybody else thinks. Most of them will continue right on that path even after you calibrate their system "correctly" and they certainly will continue right on that path no matter how many frequency response charts you show them.

People like what they like.

It's never worth it to badger them about it.
 
Venomous said:
You're one of those guys who reads and tries to pass themself off as an expert. I bet you don't even own or even heard speakers we are discussing, have you?
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I already proved my point with the Dynaudio room measurements. Which part did you fail, again, to understand?

If you disagree with my analysis of the situation perhaps you could make a counter argument instead of a straw man argument.
 
ThinJ said:
The funny thing about people who shit on other people's opinions when it comes to audio stuff like this is that in the end what's good audio or not is entirely subjective.

Yes, you can point at some objective numbers, but that doesn't mean the person who just dropped $5k on a speaker system and then "smile curved" the shit out of it with an equalizer has to care at all what you think.

You may not like how it sounds, and I may not like how it sounds, but if the person who owns the gear likes it and is happy with it, they give exactly zero fucks what you or I or anybody else thinks. Most of them will continue right on that path even after you calibrate their system "correctly" and they certainly will continue right on that path no matter how many frequency response charts you show them.

People like what they like.

It's never worth it to badger them about it.
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Not caring and being right are two different things. You can always argue about factual things in audio but of course never the subjective side. This is why I take anyones claims which defy the factual knowledge I have with a grain of salt.

In this case the evaluation dragonageinquisition gave actually was verified by hard data. He can take it as a compliment, his monitors do indeed suit well for computer use and near field monitoring, they just do not suite so well for any other kind of listening anymore.

In this case dragonage gets my compliments for having a good ear and I still don't lose my original stand, quite the contrary actually. It's not impossible to build speakers that are suited for both near field and far field listening. Directivity which I speak so much about, when controlled, can achieve this feat. Once a speaker has a good controlled directivity it's response will closely match the near field response also out in the far field. If the speaker is built for monitoring it most likely is also bi-amped and active with linkwitz-riley crossovers that help with listening angle issues.

The vast majority of passive home speakers do not fill those requirements however.
 
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Venomous said:
You're one of those guys who reads and tries to pass themself off as an expert. I bet you don't even own or even heard speakers we are discussing, have you?
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Venomous: Don't even bother replying to this guy. He's so on his audio high-horse. I guess none of us can enjoy our bookshelf speakers for near-field listening. The way to shut him out is simply not reply to him. That's what I'm doing from here on out. I think Sycraft said it best myself on this thread.
 
UMASS said:
Venomous: Don't even bother replying to this guy. He's so on his audio high-horse. I guess none of us can enjoy our bookshelf speakers for near-field listening. The way to shut him out is simply not reply to him. That's what I'm doing from here on out. I think Sycraft said it best myself on this thread.
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You can admit defeat when you can't argue against facts, so the best really is if you stop trying. :D
 
I have 2 pair of bookshelf speakers stacked on top of each other. They are 6 ft away and 6 feet apart. Angled slightly toe in. Powered by an old Onkyo 4 channel stereo receiver. I run them in stereo. The result is damn fine. I hear gaming sounds to my side and rear clearly. The imaging is natural and clear. However, if I try and move them any closer together or closer to me, it sounds like crap.

So be sure to buy the right speakers for your space requirements. I just happen to have room for whatever.
 
Space: I was using a brand new pair of Boston Acoustics M25's on my desktop spaced about 5' from each other. They sound great, but I thought they were too nice for my desk. So I regulated them for another system.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_065M25/Boston-Acoustics-M25.html?tp=186

Then I found PSB was discontinuing their older "B" line-up. I found these smaller PSB B4's for $179.99

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_760IMGB4C/PSB-Image-B4-Dark-Cherry.html

Much better fit IMHO. Plus I'm using the AudioEngine DS1 stands to leaning the tweeters to my ears.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_772DS1...nds-for-A2.html?showAll=N&search=ds1&skipvs=T

They might not considered "nearfield" speakers, but they certainly sound wonderful with music & games.
 
spaceman said:
I have 2 pair of bookshelf speakers stacked on top of each other. They are 6 ft away and 6 feet apart. Angled slightly toe in. Powered by an old Onkyo 4 channel stereo receiver. I run them in stereo. The result is damn fine. I hear gaming sounds to my side and rear clearly. The imaging is natural and clear. However, if I try and move them any closer together or closer to me, it sounds like crap.

So be sure to buy the right speakers for your space requirements. I just happen to have room for whatever.
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Having more than 1 pair of stereo speakers running at the same time is generally not recommended. The reason is that when you place high frequency emitters (tweeters) more than half the wavelength distance apart, their amplitudes no longer sum up but start to cancel eachothers. The resulting phenomenon is called a comb filter due to the suppressed low and doubled high spikes it produces to the overall sound that looks like a comb. The comb filter also varies heavily with head movements and placement as you discovered.

If you absolutely must run all 4 speakers at the same time, at least turn the speakers so that the bottom speaker is sitting upright and the top speaker is sitting upside down. That way the tweeters are as close to eachothers as possible so it minimizes the problems with comb filtering. For the mid-bass drivers there is no problem at typical crossover frequencies and typical bookshelf speaker sizes.
 
B00nie said:
Having more than 1 pair of stereo speakers running at the same time is generally not recommended. The reason is that when you place high frequency emitters (tweeters) more than half the wavelength distance apart, their amplitudes no longer sum up but start to cancel eachothers. The resulting phenomenon is called a comb filter due to the suppressed low and doubled high spikes it produces to the overall sound that looks like a comb. The comb filter also varies heavily with head movements and placement as you discovered.

If you absolutely must run all 4 speakers at the same time, at least turn the speakers so that the bottom speaker is sitting upright and the top speaker is sitting upside down. That way the tweeters are as close to eachothers as possible so it minimizes the problems with comb filtering. For the mid-bass drivers there is no problem at typical crossover frequencies and typical bookshelf speaker sizes.
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I've seen some crazy shit written over the years in audio forums, but wow dude, you have taken it to a whole other level.

Why don't you just take pics of your gear for us to see so you can gain some credibility... Make sure your user handle and date stamp is on a piece of paper with the gear you're photographing.

What I've always noticed is people like boonie, never own the gear they argue about... So go ahead and show us what you own boonie or just go away.
 
UMASS said:
Venomous: Don't even bother replying to this guy. He's so on his audio high-horse. I guess none of us can enjoy our bookshelf speakers for near-field listening. The way to shut him out is simply not reply to him. That's what I'm doing from here on out. I think Sycraft said it best myself on this thread.
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I know he is full of shit.. That's why I asked for him to show pics or get out of this section.
 
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