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Playing Braum makes me wish that MMO's and rpgs in general did "tanks" like this.

The idea of "taunts" and aggro and "soaking" up damage is no where near the amoutn of fun as it is to dash to a friend and throw up your shield and watch the EZ ult break upon your shield and not hit your ally.

HE is easily the most "fun" support that you actually ENJOY to play. He's one of the first supports that I see people actually asking to get/play support and not the usual "last pick = support" where they whine and don't want to do it.
 
Stiler said:
Playing Braum makes me wish that MMO's and rpgs in general did "tanks" like this.

The idea of "taunts" and aggro and "soaking" up damage is no where near the amoutn of fun as it is to dash to a friend and throw up your shield and watch the EZ ult break upon your shield and not hit your ally.

HE is easily the most "fun" support that you actually ENJOY to play. He's one of the first supports that I see people actually asking to get/play support and not the usual "last pick = support" where they whine and don't want to do it.
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I am expecting a huge nerf to Braum coming up though. He can be extremely OP in blind pick if you don't counter pick him.

Anyone here playing Hide & Seek? Looking to get a few more people playing in a group and wondering if anyone else likes playing.
 
I tried 3s and he is okay. You have to duo lane with him to be useful. His lane pushing is awful so if you end up being the last man standing you might as well B. In group fights he is very strong we won almost every fight with 0 or 1 deaths. I did win every game with him in 3s, that could have been the group make ups each game. I'd say he is viable but you have to still play him as a support. Which is not normally what people look for in 3s from what I have seen. I went face of the mountain and locket every game. the shields from both of those items make a difference, especially in one game vs a darius. No dunk for you darius.

He can be shut down by the right champs but I don't see those champs in 3s very often. Morg, lux, and zyra poop on him. Use snares to lock him down and use targeted AOEs to get past his shield. In 5s I have been going morg vs him and it doesn't matter what the ADCs are we win lane, so far at least. So he's good and he's really fun to play but he has counters just like every other champion.
 
Decimus said:
I am expecting a huge nerf to Braum coming up though. He can be extremely OP in blind pick if you don't counter pick him.

Anyone here playing Hide & Seek? Looking to get a few more people playing in a group and wondering if anyone else likes playing.
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I agree, he has so much cc. Some kind of a nerf is coming. I'm just not sure where because if you take something a way he would become useless. Then again he does have counters that shut him down so maybe people will pick up on the counters and he won't be quite as OP.
 
chockomonkey said:
Indeed it did. My buddies and i ended up doing custom 2v2 games on the twisted treeline with this mode though (i was surprised they let you do that), and that made it a lot more enjoyable because we randomed. This mode really should have been all random.


Hecarim is so retarded op in this mode lol. By far the most op i've fought so far.
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chockomonkey said:
What is hide and seek? lol
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Yes good question.
 
He has plenty of counters.

Naut
Zyra
Leona
Tresh

All can be good vs braum because they can get through his shield and to the adc he's trying to protect.
 
Stiler said:
He has plenty of counters.

Naut
Zyra
Leona
Tresh

All can be good vs braum because they can get through his shield and to the adc he's trying to protect.
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All viable counters put you have to have a support playing those char thats arguably IMHO orders of magnitude better than the braum they are playing against. Braum's an easier champ to play than pretty much all of those and his ability to zone and poke are top tier.
 
All he has is a sklllshot poke.

His pokes aren't that top tier, it's a skillshot that can easily be avoided by staying behind creeps (just like blitz grabs or Ez 's q).

Sona for instance has far more "poke" then braum does as a support.
 
I do not find Braum that OP. I have played him a few times, and played against him a number of times as a support. I have managed to win lane with all my standard supports against him: Thresh, Leona, Soraka, Nami. He is inherently tanky as fuck.
 
OK so I am getting pretty tired of the drop hacking bullshit. Its lame that it exist and what people use it for but since it takes like 10-20 minutes to get back into game sometimes is what really pisses me off.
I wish there was something Riot could do but the nature of the hack means it isn't going away and the free to play nature means that even if they get banned they will just create a new account.
 
c@Nc3r said:
OK so I am getting pretty tired of the drop hacking bullshit. Its lame that it exist and what people use it for but since it takes like 10-20 minutes to get back into game sometimes is what really pisses me off.
I wish there was something Riot could do but the nature of the hack means it isn't going away and the free to play nature means that even if they get banned they will just create a new account.
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Since accounts aren't tied to anything, it's going to continue ...

Seems to be happening quite a bit more lately ... sigh...
 
Stiler said:
All he has is a sklllshot poke.

His pokes aren't that top tier, it's a skillshot that can easily be avoided by staying behind creeps (just like blitz grabs or Ez 's q).

Sona for instance has far more "poke" then braum does as a support.
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I dont know about you but let me put it this way since my friend swapped to braum our winstreak as adc/supp is now 15-2. He also literally never dies.
 
So let me ask, why is it that lux's q goes through baum's shield?

Also, is this thing the 'drop-hack' you're talking about?

I understand not wanting to lose, I guess, but who really cares that much about their ranking?
 
http://i.imgur.com/jJH1eGb.png

braum is the most hilariously broken champion i've been able to see first hand (i've been around since leona's release.)

he has, by far, the strongest level 1 in the game. you are guaranteed to win every level 1, whether you invade or not. when you come into lane, all you have to do is come in through river or tri. you will force summoner(s), get a kill, and/or force them to back and miss the first wave or two.
 
chockomonkey said:
So let me ask, why is it that lux's q goes through baum's shield?

Also, is this thing the 'drop-hack' you're talking about?

I understand not wanting to lose, I guess, but who really cares that much about their ranking?
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Idk why lux's q goes through but jinx's e doesnt and w doesnt either. Neither does dravens e.

Odellus said:
http://i.imgur.com/jJH1eGb.png

braum is the most hilariously broken champion i've been able to see first hand (i've been around since leona's release.)

he has, by far, the strongest level 1 in the game. you are guaranteed to win every level 1, whether you invade or not. when you come into lane, all you have to do is come in through river or tri. you will force summoner(s), get a kill, and/or force them to back and miss the first wave or two.
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This is exactly how I feel. The only way to really lose is to be really really stupid in lane. Like say diving tower and letting a thresh hook you while you basically tank the tower for a while.
 
Anyone else been having a problem where you're in a game and then suddenly it lags, you get "Attempting to reconnect" and it NEVER reconnects, you try relogging and everything and it will simply NOT let you rejoin the game until it's finished?

This has happened to me twice now, the last time it was during my series into gold , this time again, in my series (from Gold 5 to 4)
 
Happened to me last night on the first of my series into Silver 3. Is that the drop hack linked earlier?

After about 20 mins I was able to reconnect, and it was just me a 400 stack Nas vs their Sup morg. Then we both disconnected again. 15 later Me, morg and their Ez reconnected and I couldn't push them back.

I thought if that much of your team disconnected you'd get Loss Prevented?
 
Stiler said:
Anyone else been having a problem where you're in a game and then suddenly it lags, you get "Attempting to reconnect" and it NEVER reconnects, you try relogging and everything and it will simply NOT let you rejoin the game until it's finished?

This has happened to me twice now, the last time it was during my series into gold , this time again, in my series (from Gold 5 to 4)
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I had this once right before we were about to win. I can only guess its the drop hack being talked about eaelier
 
pigwalk said:
Happened to me last night on the first of my series into Silver 3. Is that the drop hack linked earlier?

After about 20 mins I was able to reconnect, and it was just me a 400 stack Nas vs their Sup morg. Then we both disconnected again. 15 later Me, morg and their Ez reconnected and I couldn't push them back.

I thought if that much of your team disconnected you'd get Loss Prevented?
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I have had 2 games in the last week that 3 of my team ates would not be able to connect till maybe 15 minutes in. Then I've had easily a handful of games where people would constantly drop for a good 75% of the game. Worst thing is on those games I don't even get a loss prevented.
 
I somehow got 50 games of chat restriction, and i RARELY ever talk in games, never feed on purpose, and never troll. Not sure what that shit is about. Not to mention, Ive had 5 games in a row with an afker, talk about enraging. It seems its pretty hard these days to get a legit game with all 10 people playing.
 
I learned a long time ago, don't get upset at what other people say, don't fight or bicker with someone (even if they are yelling at you and saying stupid shit), just put them on ignore and only say what pertains to the acatual game you are playing and suggest strategies.
 
sok0 said:
I somehow got 50 games of chat restriction, and i RARELY ever talk in games, never feed on purpose, and never troll. Not sure what that shit is about. Not to mention, Ive had 5 games in a row with an afker, talk about enraging. It seems its pretty hard these days to get a legit game with all 10 people playing.
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I think it stems from the game being free to play and having virtually no graphics requirement...I wish they had like a 25 and older section where people hopefully have matured a bit.

In a normal game AFK's don't really bother me as going 4 v 5 is pretty good practice for learning to play whilst behind. But it really sucks in ranked.
 
LoL doesn't want to upgrade their infrastructure it seems, all year long they have had these disconnection problems, loading screen freezing where you have to restart the client, dropping from client and not being able to reconnect.

Their forums are filled with complaints of even ranked games not being loss prevented. Seem's all they care about are their tournaments as you never see those have these problems but the public games just run like ass it seems most of the time.
 
///AMG said:
Yes good question.
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chockomonkey said:
What is hide and seek? lol
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Haven't been on [H] for a couple days so sorry I am slow getting back.

Hide and Seek is a new custom game play style that has been starting. The idea is you play 5v2 on Dominion without any minions. The 5 are the "hiders" and the 2 are the "seekers". The goal for the seekers is to kill each of hiders 5 times and the goal for the hiders is to survive for 40 minutes. Hiders can only use CC abilities and cannot auto attack.

Lots of different styles of "rules" but here is one I found that has the fairly typical ones.
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3998186
 
Drophack is a DDOS attack that targets a specified username. It will flood the servers with packets related to and directed at your game. The goal is to get everyone to completely disconnect which will cause a loss prevented but it can also stop a team from a final push and winning giving the other team a chance to reorganize. The nature of the attack makes me think it would affect other games also which could be why the servers seem to be worse lately with all the huge lag spikes. It also makes me think that there is not an easy way to fix this vulnerability because its a targeted DDOS attack. How do you stop a flood of packets that have the correct info for were they are going? Upgrading servers won't do much and upgrading the pipes going in to Riots servers just means they send more packets to get the same affect. Another thing is you can't report a person for this. They just have to monitor all the games that it is focused on and then try to keep track of all those players in each of the games it happens in. Then ban someone based on a % chance that it is that person doing the drop hack. Then they create a new account and start all over. I guess riot could sue the people hosting the hack but other than that I believe its here to stay unfortunately:(


As for the chat thing I always just mute other players and try not to get pulled in to the BS. If in the Queue they seam like a mentally handicapped 12yr old then I will mute them first thing going in to the game. If a player starts getting toxic I will mute also. There is nothing worse than listening to someone QQ because they lost their lane and its everyone else's fault. I find it better to mute than to spend time arguing in chat, no one plays their best when they are chatting constantly, whether its positive chat or negative. Besides all you need is pings. They gave us an awesome ping menu that says everything that needs to be said in game.
 
I'm starting to feel that Braum is not going to get a nerf. He is very strong and he is tons O' fun to play, but he is really easy to counter and shutdown. Unless you or your adc is brain dead, using lux, morg, zyra, or Nami will get you a win. I think he will end up being another blitz/thresh that will own when smurfing but that's about it.
 
Decimus said:
Haven't been on [H] for a couple days so sorry I am slow getting back.

Hide and Seek is a new custom game play style that has been starting. The idea is you play 5v2 on Dominion without any minions. The 5 are the "hiders" and the 2 are the "seekers". The goal for the seekers is to kill each of hiders 5 times and the goal for the hiders is to survive for 40 minutes. Hiders can only use CC abilities and cannot auto attack.

Lots of different styles of "rules" but here is one I found that has the fairly typical ones.
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3998186
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Sounds weird.

I'll have to try it some time, but I'm struggling to see the point. Where do people come up with this stuff? lol
 
Started playing with my friends on my account from years ago. One of the first few games I play someone calls out my name.. at first thought I was like, oh great he is gonna call me a newb.

Then he goes on to say "Your character is worth like $200, WTF".

Apparently King Rammus is rare? Google searches show it's not too high demand anymore if anything.
 
King Rammus is a very rare skin as it was only obtainable by being in the Beta.

It's one of the rarest skins to see in game next to medieval twitch (you need to invite 350 people and have them reach level 10 to obtain this skin) the pre order skins, Pax TF, and urf Warwick.

There is no way to get King Rammus nor urf warwick, as neither is for sale or will likely ever be again.
 
refraxion said:
Started playing with my friends on my account from years ago. One of the first few games I play someone calls out my name.. at first thought I was like, oh great he is gonna call me a newb.

Then he goes on to say "Your character is worth like $200, WTF".

Apparently King Rammus is rare? Google searches show it's not too high demand anymore if anything.
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oh hah that's funny!
 
Holy crap, Braum got hit SUPER hard with the nerf bat on PBE:

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/05/527-pbe-update.html#more

Base attack damage lowered to 50 from 53
Winter's Bite ( Q ) damage lowered to 60/105/150/195/240 from 60/110/160/210/260

[Context] : Live Value is currently 80/125/170/215/260, this change is lowered even further from a nerf in a previous PBE patch.

Stand Behind Me ( W ) bonus armor and magic resist increased to 15/17.5/20/22.5/25 from 10/15/20/25/30

[Context]: The live value is 20/22.5/25/27.5/30, this change is an increase to a nerf from a previous PBE patch.

Stand Behind Me ( W ) bonus % of Braum's bonus armor/MR granted lowered to 10/11.5/13/14.5/16% from 12/14/16/18/20%

[Context]: The live value is 14/15.5/17/18.5/20%, this change is lowered even further from a nerf in a previous PBE patch.
 
Still playing! Got both my accounts to Diamond now...exclusively playing Teemo. OOOOOOH.
 
Stiler said:
Holy crap, Braum got hit SUPER hard with the nerf bat on PBE:

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/05/527-pbe-update.html#more

Base attack damage lowered to 50 from 53
Winter's Bite ( Q ) damage lowered to 60/105/150/195/240 from 60/110/160/210/260

[Context] : Live Value is currently 80/125/170/215/260, this change is lowered even further from a nerf in a previous PBE patch.

Stand Behind Me ( W ) bonus armor and magic resist increased to 15/17.5/20/22.5/25 from 10/15/20/25/30

[Context]: The live value is 20/22.5/25/27.5/30, this change is an increase to a nerf from a previous PBE patch.

Stand Behind Me ( W ) bonus % of Braum's bonus armor/MR granted lowered to 10/11.5/13/14.5/16% from 12/14/16/18/20%

[Context]: The live value is 14/15.5/17/18.5/20%, this change is lowered even further from a nerf in a previous PBE patch.
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Almost everyone was expecting it but thats quite a bit. Riot doesnt know how to balance champs and really dgaf. They will nerf something so hard and make it become outclassed and no one will use it and buff it back slightly over 2 or 3 patches and still it sucks and no one plays and they will wait a while to see and then buff it so strong again. The reasons they give to nerf something is also completely retarded.
 
Hmm, pretty hard nerf....

I've been already having fun countering Braum with Taric. People go WTF?! but after the game they agree....lol...

Also a Braum vs. Taric duel is funny, if not high action.. :D
 
c@Nc3r said:
It also makes me think that there is not an easy way to fix this vulnerability because its a targeted DDOS attack. How do you stop a flood of packets that have the correct info for were they are going?
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Its pretty easy to stop a DDoS attack actually, you have your ISP filter out the DDoS traffic. The hard part is doing it effectively and catching those responsible. There are a number of devices and systems capable of detecting and detering DDoS. Large ISPs, companies, and governments get DDoS attacks all the time. Targeted DDoS attacks are actually pretty simple to find and filter, and once they identify the attack vectors, they just make a fingerprint of it and use it to detect and filter out any future events that match closely to the fingerprint. As well as many other methods.

The real question is why aren't they doing anything about it? Well, that could be an even more interesting situation. Likely it is because while it may be easy to deflect or filter out a DDoS attack, it isn't always easy tracing it back to its main source. A lot of times companies will rate limit the attacks and try to catch as much information as possible to track down the real parties responsible. They don't want to scare them away too quickly.

Just for fun, if you want to see the current attack data going on for each country in a broad view, you can check it out here:

DDoS mania
 
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