34" 21:9 UltraWide Displays (3440x1440) - LG UM95/UM65 & Dell U3415W

Wag said:
FYI: For those who just want to calibrate this monitor and this monitor ALONE (and I guess all LG displays), you can pick up a Spyder 3 without the software off eBay for ~$60. You need the drivers to get it to work, but luckily it installs automatically after you install the software off the Datacolor website. You don't need the CD key for the Spyder 3 software to get True Color Finder to work. Now I have a calibrated display for $60.:)

Now is there a way to keep the calibrated settings while in games, or will it stay on permanently?
Click to expand...

If you've used True Color Finder then it saves the calibration settings directly into the monitor so will be calibrated in games and all other inputs. LG's software creates a hardware and software calibration so you're covered whatever happens.

Also, here's some eye movie goodness:

A26A4537.jpg


A26A4535.jpg


A26A4534.jpg


A26A4532.jpg


A26A4530.jpg


A26A4539.jpg


A26A4527.jpg
 
I have to admit, that looks pretty damn good on my LG 39" display which is also calibrated
 
Oh a curious thing I've noticed is lack of air vents, there are speaker vents at the bottom facing down but apart from that there are no other vents! I guess they're not needed since the PSU is outside of the casing and it's nice this way as you don't get dust inside over the years.
 
Anyone ordered through Adorama? I just called them for an update and was told that there is a shipping delay(another two weeks from the original march 19th date).. ugh!
 
I received mine today.

Coming from U3011, the colors are so much better. AG coating just right, unlike the horrible coating on U3011. I do not miss the loss of vertical resolution.

However, I will probably send it back. The backlight bleeding is pretty bad. Very noticable when watching movies. Such a shame.

40TOTfn.jpg


Quick photo with my phone. I will take some better pictures with my dslr tomorrow.
 
Last edited:
I'm very picky, and honestly I am debating on cancelling my BH Photo order for $899. There's so many terrible backlight bleeding pictures, and the best pictures i've seen so far are robbiekhan's but the black levels don't seem impressive at all (judging by blacks matching the brezel, they don't come close in some of those shots). I currently have the Dell 2560x1080 monitor, and it has absolutely no bleeding or uniformity issues... but it's blacks are also really meh.

Does anyone know if BH Photo would charge a restocking fee, or cover return shipping due to backlight bleeding? I may just pay the extra $100 and wait for Amazon to get it... I know they'll accept a full refund no questions asked.
 
Last edited:
IPS are typically for desktop/apps for color range and uniformity, not black levels. The best black levels and more importantly detail in blacks for movies (typically watched on TV's) are plasma and VA lcd, in that order. Plasma/crt > Zone lit VA tv (expensive) > VA lcd > ips > TN.
That's for movie black levels and detail in blacks. It's not much use to have inky blacks in movies if adjusting the brightness/contrast to those levels drops all detail in blacks to black blobs/zones. So for example the owner of a display might tweak his brightness/contrast to levels where he can see a little more detail in blacks and sacrifice the deeper blacks as a matter of preference.
.
Camera's can "see" and render a display's brightness and saturation as more pale than your eyes would see in person sometimes (especially vs ambient light levels in the same photo) so you would have to ask the poster of the photos what he thinks of how the images turned out. (You are also limited by the monitor you are viewing on and it's settings to a degree too of course).
.
I love the aspect ratio, resolution and desktop real-estate w/o bezels on this monitor and that it is ips for desktop/apps and still image color and uniformity, but it wouldn't get an "A" for movies or an "A" for gaming imo based on it's specs (though the aspect ratio for gaming counts for something). I'd still like one if I could swing it to replace my cinema display on the desktop/app side of things though.
 
Last edited:
It's cheaper to buy a TV to watch movies. This monitor will be underwhelming just to see your movie in 21:9.
Remember its a work/content development monitor, which makes it somewhat worth the price. For everything else it's over priced by $500.
 
robbiekhan said:
A26A4537.jpg
Click to expand...

I've never seen a TV that looks anywhere near that sharp. For a grand? Very very nice. Glow isn't that big a deal if it's within reason--especially when there are no bars to pollute the perceived black levels of the affected areas.

That said, if they could swing a VA at this panel size I'd be in with both feet.

Robbie, those pictures look fantastic. Can I ask what camera you are using? I'm tentatively shopping for an affordable DSLR but yours looks very very expensive or just very very good.
 
I have never calibrated anything in my life, but I am seriously considering calibrating this monitor. What should I buy to do this? Please note, I assume this is a one time calibration exercise, so I do not need anything elaborate. I plan to use the calibrating software that came with the monitor, just need the hardware to do it.

Any suggestions?

By the way, I really love this monitor. I use it for work, and I work with a lot of Excel worksheets so this monitor is perfect. I also watch tv on it and play games from time to time.
 
Is anyone using a macbook pro retina with this monitor?

Whenever I connect this monitor to my macbook pro retina via a thunderbolt, I get kernel usage like...500%...computer becomes super slow...
 
Bluesun311 said:
Can I ask what camera you are using? I'm tentatively shopping for an affordable DSLR but yours looks very very expensive or just very very good.
Click to expand...

Any DSLR can produce images like that, even the sub-500€ camera's can. More expensive camera's just make the life of the photographer a easier (or pro's need certain features).
It's the glass that is important. I would pick a D7100 with Sigma 18-35 1.8 over anything else in that pricerange. (semi-professionally shooting a D800e and all the high-end glass I need)

More OT: I really want to see what Dell will bring to the table here, because I don't like the look/stand on the LG. This seems like a great formfactor for 'not having to jump on surround'.
 
Bluesun311 said:
I've never seen a TV that looks anywhere near that sharp. For a grand? Very very nice. Glow isn't that big a deal if it's within reason--especially when there are no bars to pollute the perceived black levels of the affected areas.

That said, if they could swing a VA at this panel size I'd be in with both feet.

Robbie, those pictures look fantastic. Can I ask what camera you are using? I'm tentatively shopping for an affordable DSLR but yours looks very very expensive or just very very good.
Click to expand...

I use a Canon 5D3 and for those pics the new Sigma 35mm 1.4 lens. As mentioned above you can get similar results from much cheaper bodies but I use my camera for my weddings and it just so happens to be great with low light high contrast scenes like photographing an lcd display while still getting detail in darker areas.


gggbills said:
I have never calibrated anything in my life, but I am seriously considering calibrating this monitor. What should I buy to do this? Please note, I assume this is a one time calibration exercise, so I do not need anything elaborate. I plan to use the calibrating software that came with the monitor, just need the hardware to do it.

Any suggestions?

By the way, I really love this monitor. I use it for work, and I work with a lot of Excel worksheets so this monitor is perfect. I also watch tv on it and play games from time to time.
Click to expand...

You can buy Spyder probes on their own quite cheap I understand as the LG software comes with USB drivers for them. Failing that you can get a Colormunki Display which has excellent hardware and also has drivers.

Calibrating should be done once every 6 months or so, your choice. Panels shift over time and you'll see subtle differences in the before and after results after each calibration.

WorldExclusive said:
It's cheaper to buy a TV to watch movies. This monitor will be underwhelming just to see your movie in 21:9.
Remember its a work/content development monitor, which makes it somewhat worth the price. For everything else it's over priced by $500.
Click to expand...

I can see the angle you're coming from and others too who comment similarly but really it's anything but underwhelming. This aspect ratio giving full use of the entire screen in movies is something else and anything but underwhelming. You just have to try it to see. I know 29" screens exist with this AR but I think 34" has to be experienced.

I have a 56" LG HDTV in the living room but prefer movies without letterboxes and as such found I liked watching the same movie more on the 34" because it had more of a cinematic feel to it.

Some commented on black levels not matching the bezel, of course it won't match :p The only screen technology capable of that is OLED and nothing OLED like the UM95 exists yet. When it does I'll be interested as I'm a long term AMOLED phone user and can't live without this screen tech on smartphones.

Having said that, black levels are excellent, they have to be for a screen geared at professional workflows and having an onboard LUT. It has to be by that nature and indeed it is. Photos can only show you one aspect, being in front of it is the proper way to see it I guess but I try and take my photos in such a way to get the best out of the quality of the screen I can without sacrificing too much of one thing.
 
Last edited:
theGryphon said:
This reviewer was underwhelmed: http://www.digitaltrends.com/monitor-reviews/lg-34um95-review/

I'm thinking about this monitor but I wanna see Dell's offering before pulling the trigger... Anyone has any news on that?
Click to expand...

Not heard much of Digital Trends so I have no experience with how competent their reviews (in terms of appeal to real world users) are but a few things I don't like about their review mostly the colour areas and where they say:

Color gamut spanned a merely adequate 78 percent of Adobe RGB.
Click to expand...

Well of course? This is a standard gamut display, why would it be worth giving a lower score and marking it in the cons section as mediocre because it wasn't up to 100% AdobeRGB?

My own calibration results with an i1 Display Pro were far better and in-line with what I come to expect post calibration. Even my ancient i1 Display 2 created better readings even though the organic filters it uses are more biased to the blue end it still creates excellent delta averages all round between 0.3 to 0.9.

Of the few faults we've all noticed on this screen colour accuracy certainly isn't one of them from my experience though I did mention it came out of the box with 50/50/50 in RGB colour controls. LG's calibration chart says the factory result was over HDMI which I found odd too.
 
gggbills said:
I have never calibrated anything in my life, but I am seriously considering calibrating this monitor. What should I buy to do this? Please note, I assume this is a one time calibration exercise, so I do not need anything elaborate. I plan to use the calibrating software that came with the monitor, just need the hardware to do it.

Any suggestions?
Click to expand...
As I posted earlier, I picked up a bare Spyder 3 (no software) off eBay for $65 shipped. Works fine with the display. Makes a nice difference I think.
 
Spyder 3's are inaccurate and even less accurate when used with LED back-lit displays, not much point in using one.
 
x3sphere said:
What calibrator do you recommend?
Click to expand...

Just get a Colormunki Display. LG's software supports it and if you're only going to be using it on this monitor then you have a cheaper solution than the i1 Display Pro which is the exact same hardware but supports more software features which Xrite locks out from the Color Munki - Useful for multiple displays etc but for your purpose the Munki will be just fine. Consider it a long term investment, coupled with LG's software you've got yourself a highly accurate device and a monitor with hardware LUT. You'd make that money back years down the line if you sold the monitor on and bundled the probe with it.
 
Can the X-Rite EODIS3 i1Display Pro also calibrate TVs?

robbiekhan said:
Some commented on black levels not matching the bezel, of course it won't match :p The only screen technology capable of that is OLED and nothing OLED like the UM95 exists yet.
Click to expand...

Many higher end plasmas (Kuros, etc) have black levels that match the bezel, as well as some full-array local dimming LED TVs. My HX929 matches the bezel in a pitch back room even during scenes where most of the picture is bright. IPS black levels are acceptable at best in my opinion. OLED will obviously still have a better picture still but many displays can achieve blacks that match the bezel.
 
Last edited:
Local dimming, so parts of the backlight turn off when that part is black, I've read reports that while this is good it can introduce artefacts.

Plasma has its own issues and is old now. OLED is the future and does offer the purest black. How can you get purer than the "off"? LED backlights still have the panel itself on, our eyes just aren't sensitive enough to tell the difference when the backlight goes off.

Let's face it, OLED is the best at this kind of thing. It's just too expensive to be worth paying the premium for right now.
 
robbiekhan said:
Local dimming, so parts of the backlight turn off when that part is black, I've read reports that while this is good it can introduce artefacts.

Plasma has its own issues and is old now. OLED is the future and does offer the purest black. How can you get purer than the "off"? LED backlights still have the panel itself on, our eyes just aren't sensitive enough to tell the difference when the backlight goes off.
Click to expand...

Don't get me wrong here, I agree OLED is by far the best. My friend has the 55" Samsung OLED and it's no comparison.

You stated it's the only technology that is capable of blacks matching bezel, however I own 2 TVs that prove that statement wrong, and neither are OLED. Sure, calibration devices are still going to measure blacks deeper on OLED, but our human eyes can't tell the difference between the bezel and the current blacks offered by local dimming sets and higher end plasmas. Local dimming can produce halos, however if you don't angle yourself too far from the TV you will usually not see them. In my opinion though, it's still better than not having local dimming. I would pay a fortune for this monitor with local dimming. :p
 
Perhaps I should have worded it a bit differently earlier but the context was in reference to what people sometimes refer to as black as the bezel as in, pitch black and in that context yeah OLED is the best/only screen technology for that.

Though we're verging on the borderline pedantic I suppose :p

I imagine local dimming on a workstation geared monitor would be bad for colour calibration though. All power save modes are auto turned off and greyed out once you calibrate this screen.
 
robbiekhan said:
Perhaps I should have worded it a bit differently earlier but the context was in reference to what people sometimes refer to as black as the bezel as in, pitch black and in that context yeah OLED is the best/only screen technology for that.

Though we're verging on the borderline pedantic I suppose :p

I imagine local dimming on a workstation geared monitor would be bad for colour calibration though. All power save modes are auto turned off and greyed out once you calibrate this screen.
Click to expand...

I agree, it would have to be labelled as a gaming/entertainment monitor. Local dimming does throw off color accuracy at times. I would honestly pay upwards of $1500 for such a monitor, but they'll never make it. :(

By the way, do you know the answer to my above question? Can the X-Rite EODIS3 i1Display Pro also calibrate TVs?
 
Oh it doesn't have a mode for TVs but you could hybrid calibrate it as in, connect a laptop to the TV, load up calibration software and begin calibration with the probe on the TV but don't finish calibration. Just do the parts where you adjust the white point (RGB controls) and luminance/brightness where you get the green bar in the middle.

That would get you closer to being accurate than not doing anything at all I guess. Just remember that many TVs have various processing modes enabled like dynamic contrast, true motion and other screen modes that can mess about with colour/black levels.
 
robbiekhan said:
Just get a Colormunki Display. LG's software supports it and if you're only going to be using it on this monitor then you have a cheaper solution than the i1 Display Pro which is the exact same hardware but supports more software features which Xrite locks out from the Color Munki - Useful for multiple displays etc but for your purpose the Munki will be just fine. Consider it a long term investment, coupled with LG's software you've got yourself a highly accurate device and a monitor with hardware LUT. You'd make that money back years down the line if you sold the monitor on and bundled the probe with it.
Click to expand...

X-Rites software sucks, better off using HCFR to measure to color presets and dispcalGUI for calibration, both of which are free.

-------

Any display can 'out-black' a bezel, as long as the bezel isn't glossy black or black with glass. Acer uses a matte gray bezel with their higher end monitors. LG's frame-less casing, which most of the IPS panels use, sucks since blacks look light compared to the inner black bezel.
 
Last edited:
I used an old Spyder3 which worked without too much issue.

I tried turning on DP1.2 and was afflicted with similar flickers. Since I've yet to see any explanation for why one would want to turn it on, it seems safer to keep it off.

Overall I continue to be thrilled with this display. I wouldn't mind a bit more height--perhaps just 1 or 1.5 inches--but as a display it's great.
 
I cant decide which one to get.

This or the BenQ 32 inch one.

I wish I could see both in person but not sure where I could do that.

Is anyone else in the same boat as I am?
 
I will sum up this entire thread:

- 34UM95 is awesome

- 34UM95 sucks

- I came from 120hz monitors and I wanted this 34UM95 to give me orgasms and it didn't. I expected this to be Jesus himself, 6k rez, run at 500hz, able to be pushed by a 3Dfx Voodoo 2, have 100% color palette, cuz 99% sucks, and have the black levels of a black hole. I'm returning it because I have realistic expectations

- I absolutely MUST have total imperial shadow ops black government quality calibration or my life will be in catastrophic chaos. This calibration is the best, that one sucks. No that one sucks, this one is the best. My life is in ruin. #modernlifesucks, #firstworldproblems.

- Here's screenshots of the monitor, it's met only 98% of my expectations and everything must be perfect, so I'm returning it. Then out of spite, I will order another one and return that. Then I'll start a Youtube channel regarding my disgust about all this and ask you to subscribe.


#nooneiseverhappy
#peoplecomplainabouteverything
#omgbacklightbleedmylifeisinruin
#gamesareawesomebutomgbacklightbleedwhenilookatablackbackground

breathe....it's gonna be ok. Go Blackhawks, screw the Kings
 
Ultranifty said:
I will sum up this entire thread:

- 34UM95 is awesome

- 34UM95 sucks

- I came from 120hz monitors and I wanted this 34UM95 to give me orgasms and it didn't. I expected this to be Jesus himself, 6k rez, run at 500hz, able to be pushed by a 3Dfx Voodoo 2, have 100% color palette, cuz 99% sucks, and have the black levels of a black hole. I'm returning it because I have realistic expectations

- I absolutely MUST have total imperial shadow ops black government quality calibration or my life will be in catastrophic chaos. This calibration is the best, that one sucks. No that one sucks, this one is the best. My life is in ruin. #modernlifesucks, #firstworldproblems.

- Here's screenshots of the monitor, it's met only 98% of my expectations and everything must be perfect, so I'm returning it. Then out of spite, I will order another one and return that. Then I'll start a Youtube channel regarding my disgust about all this and ask you to subscribe.


#nooneiseverhappy
#peoplecomplainabouteverything
#omgbacklightbleedmylifeisinruin
#gamesareawesomebutomgbacklightbleedwhenilookatablackbackground

breathe....it's gonna be ok. Go Blackhawks, screw the Kings
Click to expand...

Literally laughed out loud when I read this... +1 :D
 
Ultranifty said:
I will sum up this entire thread:

- 34UM95 is awesome

- 34UM95 sucks

- I came from 120hz monitors and I wanted this 34UM95 to give me orgasms and it didn't. I expected this to be Jesus himself, 6k rez, run at 500hz, able to be pushed by a 3Dfx Voodoo 2, have 100% color palette, cuz 99% sucks, and have the black levels of a black hole. I'm returning it because I have realistic expectations

- I absolutely MUST have total imperial shadow ops black government quality calibration or my life will be in catastrophic chaos. This calibration is the best, that one sucks. No that one sucks, this one is the best. My life is in ruin. #modernlifesucks, #firstworldproblems.

- Here's screenshots of the monitor, it's met only 98% of my expectations and everything must be perfect, so I'm returning it. Then out of spite, I will order another one and return that. Then I'll start a Youtube channel regarding my disgust about all this and ask you to subscribe.


#nooneiseverhappy
#peoplecomplainabouteverything
#omgbacklightbleedmylifeisinruin
#gamesareawesomebutomgbacklightbleedwhenilookatablackbackground

breathe....it's gonna be ok. Go Blackhawks, screw the Kings
Click to expand...

Dude this was freaking funny! By the way, I'm in So. Cal, so go Kings
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top