34" 21:9 UltraWide Displays (3440x1440) - LG UM95/UM65 & Dell U3415W

Hansen said:
I have a U3011, and I am on the fence buying the 34UM95.

Those of you that have switched out your U3011(and U3014) with a 34UM95, how do you like the new monitor compared to the old one?

I use my monitor for some web coding, working on spreadsheets and documents side by side, playing games(rpg, rts, and some occasional fps), editing photos in Lightroom, and watching tv series and movies.
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I came from the U3011 and do the same things you will.

Buy it and dont look back. The UM95 is better is every way. I do not miss the U3011 at all, which is saying something as I normally hate adjusting to new hardware.
 
coolR said:
Hi all,

I received my LG 34UM95 yesterday and I wanted to give you a warning on why I’m sending it back. The input lag.

I come from an Asus VG278H and for me the difference is really there. See for yourselves :

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(both screens at 1080p, mirrored and without scaling)

LG 34UM95 on the left and Asus VG278H on the right. The LG is 17ms behind.

I understand that an 5ms 60 Hz IPS display is hardly comparable versus an 1ms 120 Hz TN one in term of reactivity and I thought I could get used to it. But after nearly two years on the Asus, I can’t go back and I’m sending back the LG.

For those who can get past the input lag, the 34UM95 is otherwise a very good monitor. The colors are great out of the box, the aspect ratio is weird at first but very enjoyable and it is overall a great experience for content creators.
It is trully a pleasure on programs like 3DS Max, After Effects and Photoshop to have such screen real estate and it looks gorgeous on games too.

I’m planning on waiting for the Asus RoG Swift PG278Q 1440p 120 Hz with G-Sync, which I think will be the perfect match for me.
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Did you average your results across a number of samples?

I have no doubt that the input lag on the 34UM95 at 60Hz is higher than that of a 120Hz monitor. It's probably higher than the average 60Hz gaming monitor, too. Did you by chance try it with both monitors set to 60Hz? The problem with running two monitors at different refresh rates is that the differences between the two out-of-sync monitors will vary depending on how out of sync the 120Hz and 60Hz clocks are.

17ms is almost exactly how long it takes for one frame to update at 60Hz. It's possible that if this photo was taken only a few milliseconds later the clock would have advanced those 17ms. On the other hand, it's also possible that you could have caught the best case scenario here and the input lag is actually greater than your measurements.

If you're up for it, can you try taking a number of photos and averaging the result? Also, I'd be curious to see how it stacks up when both monitors are set to 60Hz, although obviously that result doesn't actually matter to someone who is only concerned about absolute input lag. But in that case, such a person wouldn't be buying a 60Hz monitor to begin with.
 
Hansen said:
I have a U3011, and I am on the fence buying the 34UM95.

Those of you that have switched out your U3011(and U3014) with a 34UM95, how do you like the new monitor compared to the old one?

I use my monitor for some web coding, working on spreadsheets and documents side by side, playing games(rpg, rts, and some occasional fps), editing photos in Lightroom, and watching tv series and movies.
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I also switched from a U3011. This monitor is WAY better.
 
As this will be my first screen with onboard LUT, does this also mean then that the .icc profiles we commonly use with software calibrations are no longer needed been as everything is saved directly to the monitor?
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No. The calibration - regardless of whether via vcgt or display LUT - ensures linearity regarding the calibration parameters. Color space transformations are carried out by color aware software based on all participating and characterising profiles (that's why you still need a display profile even if your screen supports hardware calibration). Games do not fall in this category - but if the display implements a color space emulation you can utilize this feature to achieve the desired color reproduction.
 
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coolR said:
Hi all,

I received my LG 34UM95 yesterday and I wanted to give you a warning on why I’m sending it back. The input lag.

I come from an Asus VG278H and for me the difference is really there. See for yourselves :

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(both screens at 1080p, mirrored and without scaling)

LG 34UM95 on the left and Asus VG278H on the right. The LG is 17ms behind.

I understand that an 5ms 60 Hz IPS display is hardly comparable versus an 1ms 120 Hz TN one in term of reactivity and I thought I could get used to it. But after nearly two years on the Asus, I can’t go back and I’m sending back the LG.

For those who can get past the input lag, the 34UM95 is otherwise a very good monitor. The colors are great out of the box, the aspect ratio is weird at first but very enjoyable and it is overall a great experience for content creators.
It is trully a pleasure on programs like 3DS Max, After Effects and Photoshop to have such screen real estate and it looks gorgeous on games too.

I’m planning on waiting for the Asus RoG Swift PG278Q 1440p 120 Hz with G-Sync, which I think will be the perfect match for me.
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the review on prad.de is available, but it's not free yet (i think it's worth it)
they measured the input lag in the same region as seen in those pictures (afaik they used an oscilloscope for the measurements)
for people who play fast games that could be a problem. but i'm pretty sure i wouldn't even notice it.

contrary to some of the pictures posted earlier the screen shown in the review had no backlight bleed at all and even at extreme viewing angles very little ips glow.
 
I received the monitor last week and it is fricken amazing, from the 27 Korean 1440p I had to this is just, wow. Been playing all kinds of different games from Borderlands 2 to Grid 2 and they all run flawless. The 21:9 aspect ratio is so immersive, I just love it.
 
just got mine!

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Only spent like 15 mins with it so far, I'll post more impressions later, but I really like it. Coming from a 3008WFP. The extra horizontal space is great for my workflow and I don't miss having less vertical pixels from 1600p.

Black levels, uniformity, and response time are way better than my old monitor. There's only a little bit of glow in the lower right hand corner on an all black screen and I have to really look for it. Normal usage it's not noticeable at all... so no complaints here. Zero dead/stuck pixels too.

Oh and to someone asking me earlier about the heat compared to a 3008WFP, this stays very cool in comparison. Doesn't even feel warm when touching the back. The 3008WFP with the backlight turned up actually put out enough heat to make my room feel hotter.
 
BIGGRIMTIM said:
Just out of curiosity what input are you using? I have heard that displayport is faster.
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I was in DisplayPort.

Zepharus said:
In the UM95 Seetings what settings did you use for response time? This seems to be a topic of debate. There is low, med, high and off.
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The setting was set in medium (the default one). I did not perceive a difference in input lag across the different settings (I did not take pictures for this) but I noticed some reverse ghosting on High.

AgentQ said:
Did you average your results across a number of samples?

I have no doubt that the input lag on the 34UM95 at 60Hz is higher than that of a 120Hz monitor. It's probably higher than the average 60Hz gaming monitor, too. Did you by chance try it with both monitors set to 60Hz? The problem with running two monitors at different refresh rates is that the differences between the two out-of-sync monitors will vary depending on how out of sync the 120Hz and 60Hz clocks are.

17ms is almost exactly how long it takes for one frame to update at 60Hz. It's possible that if this photo was taken only a few milliseconds later the clock would have advanced those 17ms. On the other hand, it's also possible that you could have caught the best case scenario here and the input lag is actually greater than your measurements.

If you're up for it, can you try taking a number of photos and averaging the result? Also, I'd be curious to see how it stacks up when both monitors are set to 60Hz, although obviously that result doesn't actually matter to someone who is only concerned about absolute input lag. But in that case, such a person wouldn't be buying a 60Hz monitor to begin with.
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I did took several pictures (20) and the average seems to be 16 ms (it varies between 14 and 18ms). And on an average of 1 out of 4 pictures, the two monitors showed exactly the same time.

The "noticeable" input lag was for me the same with the Asus at 60Hz or 120Hz. I did not and can't take pictures anymore with the two screens at 60Hz (UM95 already packed and sent).
But very few people would use the Asus at 60Hz anyway.

I also have a Dell UH2311 (IPS @ 8ms 60Hz) and the input lag is more on par with the Asus than the LG. It never bothered me in 4+ years that I have it in opposition of the two days with the UM95.
 
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Does this monitor have a "game mode"? I heard Linus say something about this in his video review but I never heard anyone else talk about it. Also 16-17ms of total lag time doesn't seem to be all that bad for an ips. That is one frame... unless you are a "professional" online fps player, would this really make that big of a difference? especially when playing most of your games campaign vs online multiplayer?
 
Ordered another GTX 780 to test SLI, I am still going back and forth if i will need 780 Ti's or not. The $200 price premium over the 780 does not seem to be worth it, given the 10-15% performance increase. That would pay for my water blocks with money left over, plus I figured I could OC the 780's to at least Ti performance. It is so tough to gauge the performance on this monitor because there are no benchmarks at this resolution.

I am also curious on others experiences with 780/Ti's if anyone else has these cards please post your findings.
 
jmc4822 said:
Does this monitor have a "game mode"? I heard Linus say something about this in his video review but I never heard anyone else talk about it. Also 16-17ms of total lag time doesn't seem to be all that bad for an ips. That is one frame... unless you are a "professional" online fps player, would this really make that big of a difference? especially when playing most of your games campaign vs online multiplayer?
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It does have a game mode. Just tried playing some L4D and I have no complaints on the input lag front, if this is 17ms that's a lot better than my old monitor which was around 30 I believe.
 
jmc4822 said:
Does this monitor have a "game mode"? I heard Linus say something about this in his video review but I never heard anyone else talk about it. Also 16-17ms of total lag time doesn't seem to be all that bad for an ips. That is one frame... unless you are a "professional" online fps player, would this really make that big of a difference? especially when playing most of your games campaign vs online multiplayer?
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For the average gamer enthusiast its not that big of a deal. A professional gamer who life depends on winning to pay the bills it probably does make a difference since they want/need the fastest possible time.

I owned a monitor that was 5ms in time some years back, this was before they had 2ms or less, and I never felt anything lacking. I loved that monitor. Had for years it got passed down to the kid eventually and then the wife. Finally retired it to the recycling gods when it got too old and outdated. For the average gamer who just wants to play games 5ms is fine. Just my own opinion. :)
 
dave3533 said:
Anyone have any input on how single graphics cards (say a 290x) handle full res gaming at higher settings for this monitor? Trying to decide on an upgrade path if my 7970 doesn't cut it.
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I have the Saphire Tri-X 290x and building a new rig but I haven't got my hands on the UM95 yet. I'm thinking the 290x will just be just enough to play games at all the high settings. My plan is to make sure the new rig can take two of the 290x just in case it one is not enough to run everything at high settings. If and when I get the monitor I can test my theory. Until then I'm like you waiting and wondering.
 
I've decided to pull the trigger on the 34um95 and here is my experience so far:

I'm in California in the Bay Area.

B & H:
said they do not expect more in stock until June 6th.
said that they do not take returns on open boxes on screens over 27"
$899.00 Free Shipping No Tax (New York)

Adorama:
said they are not expecting more stock until the 19th
said that they do not take returns on open boxes on "TV's" and monitors.
$899.00 Free Shipping No Tax (New York)

Amazon:
$999.00 from amazon.com Free Shipping + Tax
Not available yet

Frys Electronics
$999.00 Pick Up In Store + Tax
None in stock in the bay area, nearest in Sacramento, CA

I am really put off by B & H and Adorama's return policy. What do you guys think I should do? Any other better sources I am missing? BTW, tax is about $80.00 =(
 
I've received my LG 34UM95 just 3 days ago and I've just decided that I'm not happy with it...
I like it better than my previous Samsung S27B970D, that had beautiful colors and picture quality but wasn't big enough (...coming from an HP ZR30w) and too glossy.
The 21:9 feature is really cool in some games like TESO or Tomb Rider, but looks horrible in CoD Ghost and BF4.
I love the screen coating, the colors, the black and the contrast, but at the end of the day I'm still looking at an IPS 27" with wings, still not big enough.
Construction quality and aesthetic are great but the stand is useless (immediately replaced with a Vesa Ergotron).
As many others already said it before me: not enough juice for 1.000$ + taxes and shipping.
So, I've decided that I'll send it back to Newegg and I will buy a Benq BL3200PT from Tiger Direct. I will eventually keep the LG until the Benq arrives in order to compare them side by side and post my impressions.
 
that's kinda what I was thinking... I am using an Asus vg248qe with the 144hz and do really like the fluidity of it but I think I would prefer the 1440p, the colors of an IPS, and the 21:9 34" size. I am not paying the bills with my gaming, so I think I will pull the trigger on this... anyone want a vg248qe? :) actually I have 3 in surround...
 
LG 34UM95 runs smoothly any game with 2 Gigabyte GTX780 Ghz Ed., 16Gb 1866Mhz Ram, and a i7 4770.
 
raidflex said:
Ordered another GTX 780 to test SLI, I am still going back and forth if i will need 780 Ti's or not. The $200 price premium over the 780 does not seem to be worth it, given the 10-15% performance increase. That would pay for my water blocks with money left over, plus I figured I could OC the 780's to at least Ti performance. It is so tough to gauge the performance on this monitor because there are no benchmarks at this resolution.

I am also curious on others experiences with 780/Ti's if anyone else has these cards please post your findings.
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I have a 1 780Ti and I can max out everything that I have tried and the only game that isn't a solid 60 at ultra settings would be Far Cry 3, it hovers around 40 to 50.

raidflex said:
I've received my LG 34UM95 just 3 days ago and I've just decided that I'm not happy with it...
I like it better than my previous Samsung S27B970D, that had beautiful colors and picture quality but wasn't big enough (...coming from an HP ZR30w) and too glossy.
The 21:9 feature is really cool in some games like TESO or Tomb Rider, but looks horrible in CoD Ghost and BF4.
I love the screen coating, the colors, the black and the contrast, but at the end of the day I'm still looking at an IPS 27" with wings, still not big enough.
Construction quality and aesthetic are great but the stand is useless (immediately replaced with a Vesa Ergotron).
As many others already said it before me: not enough juice for 1.000$ + taxes and shipping.
So, I've decided that I'll send it back to Newegg and I will buy a Benq BL3200PT from Tiger Direct. I will eventually keep the LG until the Benq arrives in order to compare them side by side and post my impressions.
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Damn I've been playing BF4 and thought it was a glorious experience hah
 
njc2482 said:
I have a 1 780Ti and I can max out everything that I have tried and the only game that isn't a solid 60 at ultra settings would be Far Cry 3, it hovers around 40 to 50.


Damn I've been playing BF4 and thought it was a glorious experience hah
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Then you are either not running the very demanding games or you are not running anywhere near "max out" settings. You have to put Crysis 3 on medium at that resolution to get 60 fps even with just SMAA. I know because I played around last night with the 3440x1440 res on my oced 780 and Crysis 3 was dropping to 30 fps on just high with only SMAA. You cant run Metro 2033, Metro Last Light, Witcher 2, STALKER Clear Sky and a few others on "max" settings. Keep AA levels down and most games are fine though.
 
misterbobby said:
Then you are either not running the very demanding games or you are not running anywhere near "max out" settings. You have to put Crysis 3 on medium at that resolution to get 60 fps even with just SMAA. I know because I played around last night with the 3440x1440 res on my oced 780 and Crysis 3 was dropping to 30 fps on just high with only SMAA. You cant run Metro 2033, Metro Last Light, Witcher 2, STALKER Clear Sky and a few others on "max" settings. Keep AA levels down and most games are fine though.
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Yes, I am not including Crysis 3, or either of the Metro games in my blanket (I can max out everything I have tried) statement. I do own Metro 2033, but I beat it years ago and don't have it installed, haven't gotten around to purchasing Crysis 3 or Last Light. I guess the most demanding game I play right now on a regular basis would be BF4.
 
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Also about the game mode for those who own this monitor... Is it just a color preset or does it actually improve input lag/response time by shutting down other features? I was wondering if the guy who took the screen shots of the input lag used game mode or not.
Thanks
 
njc2482 said:
I have a 1 780Ti and I can max out everything that I have tried and the only game that isn't a solid 60 at ultra settings would be Far Cry 3, it hovers around 40 to 50.


Damn I've been playing BF4 and thought it was a glorious experience hah
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@njc2482
In BF4 I'm experiencing a weird fisheye effect when I tuen around
On COD it looks like the picture is zoomed in and low res.
 
Just got mine - Damn this thing is awesome.

All I got for now. Time to sell the Dell 21:9 it replaces.
 
TheHobbyist said:
I've decided to pull the trigger on the 34um95 and here is my experience so far:

I'm in California in the Bay Area.

B & H:
said they do not expect more in stock until June 6th.
said that they do not take returns on open boxes on screens over 27"
$899.00 Free Shipping No Tax (New York)

Adorama:
said they are not expecting more stock until the 19th
said that they do not take returns on open boxes on "TV's" and monitors.
$899.00 Free Shipping No Tax (New York)

Amazon:
$999.00 from amazon.com Free Shipping + Tax
Not available yet

Frys Electronics
$999.00 Pick Up In Store + Tax
None in stock in the bay area, nearest in Sacramento, CA

I am really put off by B & H and Adorama's return policy. What do you guys think I should do? Any other better sources I am missing? BTW, tax is about $80.00 =(
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B&H's policy is 37" or over, not 27".
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/ReturnExchange.jsp

Also, Adorama never mention anything about monitors in their TV return policy section. I will email them and clarify this, I'll let you know when they get back to me.
 
Milkovic said:
@njc2482
In BF4 I'm experiencing a weird fisheye effect when I tuen around
On COD it looks like the picture is zoomed in and low res.
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BF4 = high FOV causes the fisheye effect, try lowering it. other than that, there now way around it, it's just the drawback of having a very wide aspect ratio screen.

COD = from the screenshots i saw, it doesn't seem to support 21:9, so it's just 16:9 stretched, hence the geometric distortion.
 
jmc4822 said:
Also about the game mode for those who own this monitor... Is it just a color preset or does it actually improve input lag/response time by shutting down other features? I was wondering if the guy who took the screen shots of the input lag used game mode or not.
Thanks
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The "Game mode" is just a color preset, yeah. I did my input lag screenshots in Cinema mode.

I'm not a professional gamer, but for me the input lag of the UM95 was disturbing everywhere, not only in games. Just the mouse lag and the scrolling on simple things like webrowsing was annoying.
I guess I'm very nitpicking on this since I'm used to a 1ms @ 120Hz monitor for so long. I did not think I was that "attached" to input lag, but after trying another slower monitor I discovered that I am.
 
Nebbie said:
I have a 2013 MBA, I had to update to 10.9.3 beta to get this monster to work at native resolution and refresh rates. And it works with the lid up. I am on the same boat as you for its primary usage and I love it. I am sure your 2012 MBA will work also with the 10.9.3 update. I tried it with a 2011 MBP last night and I didn't even need 10.9.3. Thunderbolt 1 has all the bandwidth it needs for this display to work, the main question prior to 10.9.3 is the driver support.
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Thanks for this, i'm going to go ahead and order it! I'm between machines at the moment, I was going to order a new Mac Pro but with those graphics cards it's not really aimed at me. If they offer an option to put consumer cards in there i'll order in a heartbeat. For now i'm happy enough working on the MBA, until the next wave of rMBP or iMacs hit.
 
Milkovic said:
LG 34UM95 runs smoothly any game with 2 Gigabyte GTX780 Ghz Ed., 16Gb 1866Mhz Ram, and a i7 4770.
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That is good to hear. I found that with 1 GTX 780 I was getting good results but found games like BF4 maxed out would dip into the 40's and this is with an OC on the card. As long as I can max settings out within reason, I do not mind lowering AA and get at least 60FPS I will be happy.

I have not tried Crysis 3 yet. I am planning on playing Star Citizen when it comes out so I want a system that can run that game well. And it looks like the game will be very demanding.
 
coolR said:
The "Game mode" is just a color preset, yeah. I did my input lag screenshots in Cinema mode.

I'm not a professional gamer, but for me the input lag of the UM95 was disturbing everywhere, not only in games. Just the mouse lag and the scrolling on simple things like webrowsing was annoying.
I guess I'm very nitpicking on this since I'm used to a 1ms @ 120Hz monitor for so long. I did not think I was that "attached" to input lag, but after trying another slower monitor I discovered that I am.
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I am not seeing this mouse lag your talking about, when I am in desktop mode. Now, without question 60hz is nowhere near as smooth as 120hz when it comes to mouse cursor movement, but there is no perceptible lag with the 34UM95 in desktop mode. However, old skool games like Halo 1, I can def feel a tinge of input lag versus my old Qnix Evo II....so for superfast high twitch gaming, yes this display is not ideal versus a 120hz.
 
I didn't see or notice any input lag. I did however see that very bad glow at the bottom right just like someone else said they saw. I think the monitor is nice..but its way over priced at 1k. I have a Korean Shimian 1440p 60hz monitor...I just didnt feel that the LG 34um95 was much better. The LG had a better color and a little better sharpness but the glow in the corner and price moved me to send mine back. If this monitor drops to 599ish..id get it.But right now I'm gonna wait until the 4k's hit.
 
I've always been on the fence between the 34UM95 and the 39" Seiki. I don't game, but still, I hate know ing the best that monitor can do is 30hz at 4k. On the other hand, the price is sweet. $500! What to do what to do.
 
ishook said:
I've always been on the fence between the 34UM95 and the 39" Seiki. I don't game, but still, I hate know ing the best that monitor can do is 30hz at 4k. On the other hand, the price is sweet. $500! What to do what to do.
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Until I actually got my GTX 780 I had a 580 connected through HDMI and it would only do 30Hz. I will tell you it was not good. With the refresh rate that low everything felt sluggish just navigating around the desktop or browsing the web. I would highly stress not getting the Seiki, especially if you are gaming.
 
coolR said:
The "Game mode" is just a color preset, yeah. I did my input lag screenshots in Cinema mode.

I'm not a professional gamer, but for me the input lag of the UM95 was disturbing everywhere, not only in games. Just the mouse lag and the scrolling on simple things like webrowsing was annoying.
I guess I'm very nitpicking on this since I'm used to a 1ms @ 120Hz monitor for so long. I did not think I was that "attached" to input lag, but after trying another slower monitor I discovered that I am.
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ah that's too bad... thanks for the reply though
 
coolR said:
The "Game mode" is just a color preset, yeah. I did my input lag screenshots in Cinema mode.

I'm not a professional gamer, but for me the input lag of the UM95 was disturbing everywhere, not only in games. Just the mouse lag and the scrolling on simple things like webrowsing was annoying.
I guess I'm very nitpicking on this since I'm used to a 1ms @ 120Hz monitor for so long. I did not think I was that "attached" to input lag, but after trying another slower monitor I discovered that I am.
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Did you do the test in native res or something else? If it wasn't in native res, you're going to be kicking in the scaler, which will introduce lag.
 
How is the operation through HDMI? Both for desktop and for games? I know you can't get 60 Hz through HDMI, but I've read that 49 Hz works.
 
ishook said:
I've always been on the fence between the 34UM95 and the 39" Seiki. I don't game, but still, I hate know ing the best that monitor can do is 30hz at 4k. On the other hand, the price is sweet. $500! What to do what to do.
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I agree.

I would absolutely have a use for a 39" Seiki that ran 4k @ 60hz.
Total bummer it doesn't.
 
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