Is a 780Ti overkill for 1080p gaming?

i can say this...these are no overkill cards for crysis 3...lol even a 780ti struggles there...if your into that game...there's got to be a few other games as well:) Star Citizen if it ever comes out would likely be the same
 
Odellus said:
probably the dumbest thing i've read so far today. grats.
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Relax, it's only for temporary reasons right now, have moved and the only monitor that was used with sig rig got damaged (more like dropped on the side) so while I'm in the shop for a new ultra high end monitor (probably 4k res setup) I'm just using my 14inch Viewsonic that was used for my network/server equipment rack.

No fucking way I'm sticking to this 14inch for long, but sure feels funny using it, downsized from a regular 22. :(
 
If you got room and can do it, just buy a second used or new GTX 680 to put it in SLi You will be set dude when the time comes for those games come out...You will get almost double the frame rate with games going this route, provided your power supply can handle it, of course. A 780ti will give you an increase, but not as much as 2x 680's...
 
Yes I think i have power to spare... Got a Seasonic X760 Watt gold. Think a 760 W should be fine for that I guess.. What are your thoughts on SLI`ng another 680 guys?...
 
murkris118 said:
Yes I think i have power to spare... Got a Seasonic X760 Watt gold. Think a 760 W should be fine for that I guess.. What are your thoughts on SLI`ng another 680 guys?...
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I'd go for the 780Ti, but that's just me...;) Sell the 680 while its still worth something and get a 780Ti that you can double up on in a year or so when prices come down.

That power supply will be ok, if you leave the cards at stock or near-stock speeds. Pushing the 680s hard will likely begin to get close to pulling 300W per card, which doubled (for SLi) and factoring in an overclocked CPU will begin to push your Seasonic above where I personally would feel comfortable running.
 
ravensteel said:
A 780ti will give you an increase, but not as much as 2x 680's...
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murkris118 said:
Got a Seasonic X760 Watt gold. Think a 760 W should be fine for that I guess.. What are your thoughts on SLI`ng another 680 guys?...
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The Seasonic will be fine, I ran my sig rig (except CPU) on the same PSU for a month with no problems.

lutjens said:
I'd go for the 780Ti, but that's just me...;) Sell the 680 while its still worth something and get a 780Ti that you can double up on in a year or so when prices come down.

That power supply will be ok, if you leave the cards at stock or near-stock speeds. Pushing the 680s hard will likely begin to get close to pulling 300W per card, which doubled (for SLi) and factoring in an overclocked CPU will begin to push your Seasonic above where I personally would feel comfortable running.
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The second card won't be pushed to it's max TDP as SLI doesn't push the second or third card into 100% mode. Games wise and excluding any software such as Folding@Home.

Personally I'd go the 680 route since they are fairly cheap now and will last you a while if you don't move to overkill multi-monitor setups (3 30inch monitors or something). The 780 Ti is just not worth it and given the new shit is right around the corner slated for late this year which ain't long, sell off the 680's if need be and upgrade to the 800 series gtx's should your e-peen require so.
 
I loaded up Max Payne 3 again and let's say that I'm very glad I didn't have 1 gtx 780ti. Max everything, tessellation, force highest AA and it barely hits 90fps @ 1080p. I try to get 120fps as a minimum.
 
psyside said:
Buying 2x 680 is bad choice. 256 bit + 2GB vram....no thanks.
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yes, because vram and bus width are what's holding a 680 back. the day can't come soon enough when people realize that 2 GB of VRAM is fine for any resolution or settings up until you go 4K or higher, and at that point your gpu is still probably too slow to put out decent frames anyway.

op, buy another 680 and be done with it.
 
Sure is enough, if your not fan of AA. If you are bye bye good experience. I for one, can't stand having to use lower mods, but yet having 2 supposedly powerful cards.
 
If I were you, I would buy this! It has a 5YR warranty, and it will boost higher than any other GTX 780 in games on the market, even the classified. Also, It has superior cooling, and it has memory that is pre overclocked to 6,200mhz, now I know 200mhz is not much! But hey, nobody else did it. Also, it is absolutely silent! Read the reviews of the verified owners. And the reviews on google.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500311

I just sold my GTX Titan, and I am just thinking about buying one, because it is cooler than any other 780, and it is fast as hell. And all that we really need in 1080P games. Most of those zotac cars are getting about 10,600-10,800 overclocked in firestrike. And a stock GTX 780 TI gets 9,800-10,000. Once the GTX 780TI is overclocked yes! It is faster. And to buy one that will overclock through the roof and have enough power available to do so cost $760, or $850.

I mean, Most reference 780 Ti's overclocked are about 10% faster than the face melter 5000 super extreme GTX 780 NON TI cards that are under $500 now. And considering the Zotac AMP Gtx 780 boost higher than all of the other GTX 780 cards! It is a good deal.

In a lot of cases, the GTX 780Ti is 15-20% faster than a reference GTX 780. But! It is 45-55% more money. Now, once the GTX 780 is overclocked you are getting 780TI performance. And you are saving yourself a lot of money.

The more I decide and think about which video card, the tougher the decision is! I swear, if we all just slapped in GTX 780 overclocked it, and played at 1080P! We would all really be truly happy!

The GTX 780Ti is a sweet card! The only good deal on one right now is the Reference GTX 780 Ti from MSI. Here

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127771

The only reason why I would not buy a GTX 780Ti right now, is because they are releasing the 6GB version. I would hold out till it gets released to see what they are doing with pricing. Although, that MSI is proubly the cheapest one.



The original Evga GTX 780 ACX SC got a perfect 10/10 with Maximum PC. And this one is only better! It has 6GB of video memory! And it is $599.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487040

If you texture mod games, or plan to play at 4K soon enough this is a good card! But, it will run out Horsepower before it runs out of memory. But, it makes it the best candidate for SLI. Because 6GB Vram is plenty for 4K! And TWO Heavily overclocked GTX 780 cards are plenty for 4K to. OR itleast manage the heavy stuff at 35-40fps
 
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Hey hate to bring up AMD and all. But,

Newegg has the R9 290 for $349.99

TWO FOR $699.99??!!!

I have another thread up, after selling the Titan, I am thinking of what I should get to. Not trying to high jack. But, two R9 290 cards, will kill anything in 4K! And the price is just right!

Now, if they will just both work when they get shipped to my door lol. Anyone running two of these 290 cards on here? I heard that the 290x only adds 3% more performance over a regular 290.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131527R
 
Sure, the 290 are fantastic, get non referent if you want silence, if not they will destroy any game even in 4K...with oc.
 
Also note if you're going 290s plan on either getting non-reference or buying aftermarket coolers for them. If you live in a hot climate you will need to run the fan on high and the reference coolers get super loud over 60% and at 100% it sounds like a vaccuum cleaner lol.
 
primetime said:
i can say this...these are no overkill cards for crysis 3...lol even a 780ti struggles there...if your into that game...there's got to be a few other games as well:) Star Citizen if it ever comes out would likely be the same
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780ti would not struggle at all if using SMAA instead of MSAA and shadows down one notch. In fact it will be his cpu that will stop him from staying above 60 and even 50 fps the whole time in Crysis 3 on those settings.
 
Well actually I was thinking if anyone was running Xfire R9 290's. Or even a single R9 290. The Kraken G10 GPU bracket is only $29.99, and a Corsair h50 is only $49.99


This kraken G10 mounts to just about any GPU, and the H50 mounts to it. Any round style AIO water cooler will work with it. The round ones are the asetek coolers.

kraken x40, X60, H100 H90, H50, H55, H70, a lot of thermaltake water coolers,

Square block H60 would not work. TD03 and TD01 would not work either.

But, if two R9 290 cards are $700. Then two H55's and two G10 nzxt brackets are only $160

So, I guess for a mere $860 you can have TWO AMD R9 290's and they are both watercooled with there own rads, and own pumps!
I know the performance of a D5 pump, it is phenomenal! but, a custom loop is expensive to build! I just bought a D5 and Sr1 rads a few weeks ago. A D5 pump alone cost about $100 to $150 with or without a reservoir.
Oh and, I mean MAXED out as in, a 4K resolution, all settings to ULTRA, and 16X AF and a Minimal AA setting. Or no AA at all. And they should crush through anything. AA seems to always be the run or cant run option.
Even this OEM GTX 660 can run crisis 3 maxed out. But, I cannot do the AA it just folds it at the knee's lol
And it is heavily overclocked. 5800 basic in firestrike, little bit faster than a GTX 760 SC

I think I am dead set on the Xfire 290 setup. Something about being able to run any game at 4K on ultra and stay over 30FPS, just sounds very powerful for some reason lol
especially 3 of them, my goodness. Its almost as if they scale perfectly lol!

Single R9 290= 20 FPS----------------------Single GTX 780= 19 FPS SINGLE CARDS scaling

XFIRE R9 290= 42 FPS ---------------------SLI GTX 780= 29 FPS SLI AND XFIRE CARDS scaling

That about right for the scaling?
 
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r-486 said:
I see you're not running 64GB of RAM but a lowly amount of 8. Since overkill is a myth, you must be poor.
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Overkill is indeed a myth...you can never have too much power...:D

Matthew Kane said:
The second card won't be pushed to it's max TDP as SLI doesn't push the second or third card into 100% mode. Games wise and excluding any software such as Folding@Home.
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I like to plan a system around the worst possible scenario and that scenario represents no more than 80% of the power supply's rating. Better to plan for the worst case scenario and never see it than to see it on a system that's not ready for it. Also, some extra room for expansion down the road often comes in handy...;)
 
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Actually if everybody just take a look at my sig my motherboard is a P8H77-V which is non overclockable.. Yeah Yeah I know why a 2500k with a silver arrow and a H77 mobo u might ask... well when i first built my rig I was totally unaware that all the links in the chain must be overclockable including the motherboard so I went with the cheapest option in my country that supported SB... :(...

Now I actually experience CPU bottlenecks in games like Crysis 3 and AC4 in certain levels where my 680 just does not max out. I presume i would see fps gains in those scenarios. So should I just get a Z77 mobo overclock the heck outta my CPU and call it a day for the time being? ...
 
murkris118 said:
Actually if everybody just take a look at my sig my motherboard is a P8H77-V which is non overclockable.. Yeah Yeah I know why a 2500k with a silver arrow and a H77 mobo u might ask... well when i first built my rig I was totally unaware that all the links in the chain must be overclockable including the motherboard so I went with the cheapest option in my country that supported SB... :(...

Now I actually experience CPU bottlenecks in games like Crysis 3 and AC4 in certain levels where my 680 just does not max out. I presume i would see fps gains in those scenarios. So should I just get a Z77 mobo overclock the heck outta my CPU and call it a day for the time being? ...
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Looks like your motherboard doesn't support SLi either...:(
 
I run sli'd 780's at 19x12. I had sli'd 680's before this setup, and sli'd 580's before them, all at 19x12. Each upgrade provided a significant increase in overall smoothness and brought an increase in AA levels. So, is a single 780ti overkill? Not even close.
 
I ran this GTX Titan in this rig on a Viewsonic VX 2025 WM 20.1" monitor
Running @ 1680/1050. And It was sweet. Getting about 100 FPS in everything

It was 1225mhz Core / 7000mhz memory


i7 3820 @ 4.3Ghz, I don't belive there was any bottle neck.

It was not overkill! I would have run two in SLI if I would have had another one. the more power the better.
It doesn't matter how much power we have because, our computers do not use tires and they don't need to maintain traction. So we can go as fast as we want. lol
everyone should itleast have a video card strong enough to run all the games at there monitors native resolution, and maximum detail settings.

So yea, I would say a GTX 780ti is not overkill by any means. id say 60% of the buyers are running it at 1080p anyways

Plus, apparently the ultimate game play experience is 60 Frames per second. And a GTX 780 or 780 ti shouldn't have any trouble providing that at 1080P
 
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burned-ati said:
So yea, I would say a GTX 780ti is not overkill by any means. id say 60% of the buyers are running it at 1080p anyways

Plus, apparently the ultimate game play experience is 60 Frames per second. And a GTX 780 or 780 ti shouldn't have any trouble providing that at 1080P
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The only reason people say 60 FPS is the sweet spot is because that was the defacto standard refresh rate for LCD monitors for a long time. For those who still say 60 FPS is the "ultimate game play experience," they have obviously never seen a game run perfectly synced at 144 FPS/144 Hz :D.
 
I would argue that it is overkill. Not because of any budgetary reasons, but because of technological advances in APIs. By the time games advance enough to demand that much performance on a 1080 screen, the hardware on the 780 won't be sophisticated enough to render the new direct X eleventeen or whatever.

Personally, I'd balance FPS, with rendering technology. a 680 is plenty fast on 1080, and probably will be for years to come. but you'll be missing out on all the newest rendering technology.
 
You should be able to find a decent z68 board for relatively cheap that supports good overclocks and SLI for $50-$60. Z77 is not necessary unless you're planning to upgrade to an ivy bridge cpu.
 
ssnyder28 said:
You should be able to find a decent z68 board for relatively cheap that supports good overclocks and SLI for $50-$60. Z77 is not necessary unless you're planning to upgrade to an ivy bridge cpu.
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Ivy actually works on Z68. Assuming the motherboard vendor provided a BIOS to support it.
 
Armenius said:
The only reason people say 60 FPS is the sweet spot is because that was the defacto standard refresh rate for LCD monitors for a long time. For those who still say 60 FPS is the "ultimate game play experience," they have obviously never seen a game run perfectly synced at 144 FPS/144 Hz :D.
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are you young? A solid 60fps used to be considered the holy grail long before lcds came out. Our CRTs back then could go way above 60hz.

Back when the original Unreal came out and for the first time you could SLI two voodoo cards to get 60fps at 800x600.
 
I don't think there are many people that can tell the difference between a 780 and 780ti at 1080p. I don't really suggest people pay the ~$200 difference at that resolution.
 
robble said:
are you young? A solid 60fps used to be considered the holy grail long before lcds came out. Our CRTs back then could go way above 60hz.

Back when the original Unreal came out and for the first time you could SLI two voodoo cards to get 60fps at 800x600.
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I had a 21" CRT that did 1600x1200 @ 96 Hz from around 2002 - 2005. After that I got a 22" LCD that did 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz until about 2009. I think the first computer I owned had a 17" CRT that topped out at 1280x960 @ 75 Hz... That was 2000'ish.

I remember playing the original Need for Speed, needing to load the UNIVBE drivers to get it to render at "high" resolutions. My first 3D game experience though was Geoff Crammond's F1GP and needing to correctly configure the HIMEM :cool:. When we got shareware Doom we needed to decrease the screen size on my dad's 486DX2 to make it run smoothly ;). The Ultimate Doom (v1.9) actually ran at max screen size without a hitch with Windows 95 and booting to DOS on the same system.
 
Armenius said:
I had a 21" CRT that did 1600x1200 @ 96 Hz from around 2002 - 2005. After that I got a 22" LCD that did 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz until about 2009. I think the first computer I owned had a 17" CRT that topped out at 1280x960 @ 75 Hz... That was 2000'ish.
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I was gonna say... all the CRTs I ever had never went over 75Hz.
 
Starrbuck said:
I was gonna say... all the CRTs I ever had never went over 75Hz.
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The 21" I purchased from a local gaming LAN place when it was going out of business. I bought 2 of them for $100 a piece. They were made by Sun Microsystems. Biggest monitors I ever saw in my life (had to weigh 150 pounds...), but now I'm spoiled by a 27" :D.
 
Guys guys can we shift the attention to my problem lol!!.... New Overclockable motherboard or save up and get a 780 later?... If I buy the new mobo I cant afford a new GPU... That is how my situation is lol..:D... I am pretty sure I will see a difference in CPU hungry games.. but take your pick guys....
 
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