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politicians only care about getting re-elected.

businesses have their own money on the line.

who do you think has a greater long-term interest in society?
 
JaiWebb said:
Too big to exist. They're making bad choices on the backs of the masses, unacceptable, no matter how you word it.
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And here's the thing. During the 2008 financial crisis, the big banks that didn't go under got bigger. Wells acquired Wachovia. B of A acquired Countrywide and Merrill Lynch. JP got Washington Mutual. You act as though a bank going under with millions of customers and billions on its books is the same thing as the local deli going out of business. If it were then government would give a rats ass. And somebody has to manage the outstanding business when a bank fails, that's a very unique thing to banks.
 
heatlesssun said:
And somebody has to manage the outstanding business when a bank fails, that's a very unique thing to banks.
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Only because the US dollar is a debt based inflatable fiat currency owned by private entities, not public. It should be owned by 'the people', like in Canada! You're actually making my point for me.
 
JaiWebb said:
Only because the US dollar is a debt based inflatable fiat currency owned by private entities, not public. It should be owned by 'the people', like in Canada! You're actually making my point for me.
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And when a fraudulent charge shows up on one's credit or debit card, they call their bank, and in the case of my bank I get the money back in no more than one day. What's the 800 number for BitCoin fraud?
 
heatlesssun said:
And when a fraudulent charge shows up on one's credit or debit card, they call their bank, and in the case of my bank I get the money back in no more than one day. What's the 800 number for BitCoin fraud?
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It's 1-800- no inflation of all the money you'll ever make in your life by a private banking entity.
 
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CreepyUncleGoogle said:
What, that you're resorting to personal attacks instead of having an intelligent discussion? :p
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You stopped saying anything new a while back (did you miss the don't feed the trolls sign?) yet you want to make shit up on page 4...lol.


Do it on your own time. I'm trying to watch an illegal movie I downloaded. I'm not good at multitasking, like humans. What I'm saying is that this is that important. Rubbing my balls is a higher priority.

troll.
 
JaiWebb said:
It's 1-800- no inflation of all the money you'll ever make in your life by a private banking entity.
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You're funny!:D I've worked in the financial sector for 15 years at the largest of institutions. Do you really have any concept of how banking works day to day? Or do you just make it up as you go along?
 
JaiWebb said:
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Sure 1922. A banking system that like had NO government oversight and where people lost money if the Depression in deposit accounts. And yeah, there was a revolution called the New Deal that bought forth a SLEW of government that to this day is fought tooth and nail. Though no conservative running for office today actually has the balls to challenge Social Security, at least for current recipients.
 
heatlesssun said:
Sure 1922. A banking system that like had NO government oversight and where people lost money if the Depression in deposit accounts. And yeah, there was a revolution called the New Deal that bought forth a SLEW of government that to this day is fought tooth and nail. Though no conservative running for office today actually has the balls to challenge Social Security, at least for current recipients.
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And no liberal has the courage to admit its doom for failure for most of today's living active contributors. It will be a black hole that will never pays back people who will be making the bulk of the contribution for the next 20 years anything close to what they put in let alone what that missed opportunity of investing privately would have done.

The New Deal was only temporarily feasible because its costs were just ramping up at the same time we reached our industrially driven Economic pinnacle of the 50's. Slow death ever since.
 
jpm100 said:
And no liberal has the courage to admit its doom for failure for most of today's living active contributors. It will be a black hole that will never pays back people who will be making the bulk of the contribution for the next 20 years anything close to what they put in let alone what that missed opportunity of investing privately would have done.
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As I am what would be considered a liberal around here, I try to understand reality. The two most popular welfare programs by far ever created by the US Federal Government are Social Security and Medicare. And the why is simple. They are the most expensive and they are targeted at people that conservatives can't scream at about getting a job because, well, hopefully you should know. I perfectly understand the cost issues with these programs, I was thinking about them before many on this forum were even born. I very clearly remember the issues with Social Security during the Reagan Presidency. It's one thing to tell a young abled bodied person to get off their ass and work. It's quite another to tell a 70 year old to do that. And as much as you want to disparage the courage of liberals, I don't think there's too many conservatives that are saying anything about current Medicare or Social Security recipients.

jpm100 said:
The New Deal was only temporarily feasible because its costs were just ramping up at the same time we reached our industrially driven Economic pinnacle of the 50's. Slow death ever since.
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The New Deal was feasible because private enterprise pretty much collapsed and took a nap for a decade until government was willing to fill private enterprise's coughers through the largest war effort in human history. I have no problem with private enterprise, but it tends to bail on a large scale until it gets some help from taxpayers. Maybe that shouldn't be the case. But then millions of people not having enough jobs or housing or food or medical care should be the case either.
 
aardvark sandwich said:
i've already won, because i just don't give a shit. i'm not going to ask politicians for freedom, i'm just going to take it.
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Yet another simplistic solution from the right that didn't think it through. Say that you'll take what you want with your real identity, asking a politician for freedom will be the least of your problems.
 
heatlesssun said:
Yet another simplistic solution from the right that didn't think it through. Say that you'll take what you want with your real identity, asking a politician for freedom will be the least of your problems.
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its not stealing from other people, i'm talking about basic freedoms.
politicians are now obsolete.

and i'm not associated with the right, i dont vote. my entire point. i dont care if my freedom interferes with the elaborate, infallible plans of the state. i dont care what harm is caused to them by the existence of freedom, or any careful safeguards that require the confiscation of half my money at all times just so nothing 'bad' happens.
 
JaiWebb said:
You stopped saying anything new a while back (did you miss the don't feed the trolls sign?) yet you want to make shit up on page 4...lol.


Do it on your own time. I'm trying to watch an illegal movie I downloaded. I'm not good at multitasking, like humans. What I'm saying is that this is that important. Rubbing my balls is a higher priority.

troll.
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So you'd prefer name calling over talking about whether or not we have an institutional problem or one that stems from a basic premise about humanity's ignorance. Yes, of course, that' has to be trolling and made up too. :rolleyes:

I think what you ran into was an insurmountable logical assertion that you couldn't refute and decided to escape it by being insulting rather than open to changing thoughts or opinions.
 
heatlesssun said:
And when a fraudulent charge shows up on one's credit or debit card, they call their bank, and in the case of my bank I get the money back in no more than one day. What's the 800 number for BitCoin fraud?
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That is a service provided by your bank and has nothing to do with the currency they use. That's like calling your bank because you lost 100$ in cash...
 
And disadvantages of fees and regulatory capture.

The market will decide which balance they like. Maybe they will even use both!
 
They might, but it's not likely until cryptocurrency gets oversight and management necessary to tie it to uniquely to people for taxation and transaction fees (beyond the flaky exchanges). I'm all for a universal, global currency once it has universal, global oversight to prevent people from hiding who they are when they make a transaction.
 
Biznatch said:
That is a service provided by your bank and has nothing to do with the currency they use. That's like calling your bank because you lost 100$ in cash...
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Yes, but the reason banks can do this is because credit and debit card transactions are traceable. Cash is difficult to trace and BitCoins are designed to be inherently untraceable.
 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
They might, but it's not likely until cryptocurrency gets oversight and management necessary to tie it to uniquely to people for taxation and transaction fees (beyond the flaky exchanges). I'm all for a universal, global currency once it has universal, global oversight to prevent people from hiding who they are when they make a transaction.
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Do you understand what crypto means?
 
aardvark sandwich said:
Do you understand what crypto means?
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Economic functionality and personal accountability are important in building trust in any form of currency. Also, there is a specific need for national entities to be able to reach into the earning and buying activities of their citizens in order to support programs of national interest along with their associated costs. Without that, a system of currency simply isn't gonna work.

Also, yes, I do. In fact, there's lots of cryptographic equipment involved in the stuff I do. *cue creepy music*
 
Oh, that first sentence. I see you still don't understand anything about bitcoin at all then.


Carry on.
 
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