Diablo 3 Discussion Thread

DiabloProgress is kinda odd. I'm ranked 56 in NA and 137 world in all resist. Pretty much sums up my survivability to T5. Damage wise I'm in with 20k other players balancing out elemental damage/regular damage along with surviving. I could probably up that if I forgo surviving and stick to T3 or less.

T4->T5 groups is an odd jump because I can walk T4 right now with no changes, but if I try the same gear in T5, the threat of 1 shot or near 1 shot elites bugs the hell out of me. The hp gain of the enemies is so high that you'd have to add another mil dps to get back that feel, but gear wise, you are so much at the mercy of RNG for stuff that the idea of sidegrade is hard as hell. I'm storing now 3 cindercoats, 2 magefists (had 3 but last one was terrible), almost 2-3 of all the essential parts for fire builds, but none with that perfect roll. I got a int + 20% cindercoat and 2 sockets and basically choked because it was my DH that picked this up. Good for my wiz, but no funds to build it yet/

I have an *almost* perfect Cindercoat and Magefist... On a Witch Doctor :( I feel like those are totally forcing me to a Fire build, which I have been doing for a few weeks.

Last night I just went over to Poison and found it to be effective, but ultimately gimped because there are no +Poison equivalents to the Cindercoat and Magefist. I have "good" gear too:

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/ocellaris-1324/Jawfish/42944548

I should probably just make a Mage and put the +Fire items to use.
 
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So where do you get the mats to re-roll a legendary item? I smelted a couple legendaries and they still give the fiery brimstone...
 
I have an *almost* perfect Cindercoat and Magefist... On a Witch Doctor :( I feel like those are totally forcing me to a Fire build, which I have been doing for a few weeks.

Last night I just went over to Poison and found it to be effective, but ultimately gimped because there are no +Poison equivalents to the Cindercoat and Magefist. I have "good" gear too:

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/ocellaris-1324/Jawfish/42944548

Tough call considering your gear in your profile, but hardly a bad problem to have!

I'd probably stick with a Poison CC build like you've got going. Maybe get Mass Confusion in there for even more CC goodness? There's a few runes that would give you some nice synergies with your other gear and skills, too.

Oh, and no BBV? Inconceivable?!
 
Tough call considering your gear in your profile, but hardly a bad problem to have!

I'd probably stick with a Poison CC build like you've got going. Maybe get Mass Confusion in there for even more CC goodness? There's a few runes that would give you some nice synergies with your other gear and skills, too.

Oh, and no BBV? Inconceivable?!

What Synergies might I be missing? I am using Bogadile to proc the Amulet right now (it counts as a stun even though it doesn't mention it).

For T3/T4 groups I have been switching Pierce the Veil to Bad Medicine. Then I try keeping Confusion, -20% damage, and -80% speed on packs. Everyone else keeps using BBV, so I use Wrathful to smash down Rift Guardians (while it is being buffed by their BBV) :D

When things go bad for me, they go tremendously bad. I can go multiple pulls without getting hit at all, then one missed Locust Swarm and some bad luck with Addling Toads and...

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What Synergies might I be missing? I am using Bogadile to proc the Amulet right now (it counts as a stun even though it doesn't mention it).

Mass Confusion - Mass Hysteria or Mass Confusion - Paranoia were the ones I was thinking of, off hand.
 
Just wanted to add this in reference to the 2H discussion that was going on earlier. I think this may be near as max as it gets. Blk dmg with max %dmg roll, max ias roll, and very near max dmg roll.

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And, its still crap and not worth using lol
 
I'm getting pretty restless with having really bad drops. My monk only gets legendary Amulets, Two Hander's, and Rings. All of which are never, ever an upgrade.

I've yet to see 1 Inna's piece drop
 
Man, Monk and DH split time between them, no good 1h sword drops (all 2h). The GF pops on for a bit to organize mats and do a run. She get's a few leg drops, upgrades to weapons better than mine AND 1 Inna's piece, a belt. RNG is a cruel mistress sometimes. The monk and DH are near invincible up to T4 and the edge goes to the DH with options to step up T5.
 
What kind of dps/toughness for torment 2 @ 70?

500k sheet DPS/5 million toughness should be fine. Your elemental/elite DPS and build synergy is more important that what the sheet DPS is.

Play in some groups. If you don't feel like you are contributing, you need more DPS :p
 
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Just wanted to add this in reference to the 2H discussion that was going on earlier. I think this may be near as max as it gets. Blk dmg with max %dmg roll, max ias roll, and very near max dmg roll.

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And, its still crap and not worth using lol

Why is that crap? Is it just that the dps isn't high enough still or..?
Man, Monk and DH split time between them, no good 1h sword drops (all 2h). The GF pops on for a bit to organize mats and do a run. She get's a few leg drops, upgrades to weapons better than mine AND 1 Inna's piece, a belt. RNG is a cruel mistress sometimes. The monk and DH are near invincible up to T4 and the edge goes to the DH with options to step up T5.

What sucks is using all your legendary drops before you're 70.
 
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Why is that crap? Is it just that the dps isn't high enough still or..?

Ultimately, what makes any 2H suck is that it can still only roll one socket. Unless they do something to seriously enhance 2H weapons, having big ol' emeralds in two 1H weapons will always make dual wield trump 2H.

Specifically, though that one has high DPS, it doesn't have anything else that really sets it apart. No elemental damage boost or other unique affix that really makes it a game changer.

With the rare exception of a few build-specific 2H weapons, the only one that's generally regarded as useful is Maximus because of the insane DPS from the fire chains from you to the demonic slave and the 15-20% fire damage enhancer.

On the 1H side, you've got legendaries that have some crazy unique affixes and damage enhancers of every element possible.
 
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What sucks is using all your legendary drops before you're 70.

I thought that kind of thing at first, but I've found multiples so that theory doesn't really hold up. Hell, just a couple of nights ago I found 2 Jekangbords in the same game while running regular quests - the first while getting Kulle's head in that Oasis dungeon and the second was in the VotA like 10 minutes later. Neither were as good as the one I was already using :)rolleyes:).

I also found a 2nd Gyrfalcon's Foote a day after finding my 1st, and the 2nd one rolled better. Spent 14 souls rolling a socket, only to find one with a socket the next day lol.
 
Ultimately, what makes any 2H suck is that it can still only roll one socket. Unless they do something to seriously enhance 2H weapons, having big ol' emeralds in two 1H weapons will always make dual wield trump 2H.

Specifically, though that one has high DPS, it doesn't have anything else that really sets it apart. No elemental damage boost or other unique affix that really makes it a game changer.

With the rare exception of a few build-specific 2H weapons, the only one that's generally regarded as useful is Maximus because of the insane DPS from the fire chains from you to the demonic slave and the 15-20% fire damage enhancer.

On the 1H side, you've got legendaries that have some crazy unique affixes and damage enhancers of every element possible.

I've got a crusader built to specifically use a Maximus one handed, fun when combined with Firewalkers since you'll be running around anyway making the chains work. Unfortunately the Crusaders fire skills are fairly mundane. It's nowhere near as effective as the Blessed Shield build, but it works.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ArchSaturn-1805/hero/43478351
 
If I get one more broken crown instead of a mask of jeram or Quetzalcoatl for my wd I'm gonna rage pretty hard. Think I'm at 5 broken crowns now

Ran a few rifts this morning before work with my WD.

Got one legendary drop.

A Stormshield.

:confused:
 
Ran a few rifts this morning before work with my WD.

Got one legendary drop.

A Stormshield.

:confused:

Yay Smart Loot. I got one of those on my Wizard. A couple days ago on that same Wizard, I got Andariel's Visage that rolled Dex and had a DH skill damage. It also rolled poison damage with no crit chance so it was even useless for my DH.
 
Yay Smart Loot. I got one of those on my Wizard. A couple days ago on that same Wizard, I got Andariel's Visage that rolled Dex and had a DH skill damage. It also rolled poison damage with no crit chance so it was even useless for my DH.

Remember how I said I'd been wanting Death's Bargain pants for my Crusader? And how I kept running bounties on my Crusaders so I could get those pants for my Crusader?

I just got them now on my Crusader: DEX and motherfucking Fists of Thunder damage! Unbelievable. :mad:
 
Those pair of pants look pretty fun to use.

Those pants are worded somewhat poorly. It does your "Life Per Second" rating from the character sheet as damage. Even if you stack this to 10K or so, it isn't much outgoing damage at all.

Much better to go with Bul Kathos Wedding Band. This does .4% of a mobs current HP as damage every second, works great a higher Torment levels.
 
Those pants are worded somewhat poorly. It does your "Life Per Second" rating from the character sheet as damage. Even if you stack this to 10K or so, it isn't much outgoing damage at all.

Much better to go with Bul Kathos Wedding Band. This does .4% of a mobs current HP as damage every second, works great a higher Torment levels.

Yeah I soul'd mine. A single regular attack crit hit was doing about 100 times more damage.
 
Pretty much the only upgrades on my witch doc would be a starmetal kukri dagger or any of the zunimassa set pieces. getting highly frustrated though, nothing useful has been dropping at all. And even if the zunimassa pieces did drop I'm not sure I would even use it, don't want to give up my blackthorne bonus or my aughilds bonus. Feel like I'm wasting my time, debating calling it quits.
 
Those pants are worded somewhat poorly. It does your "Life Per Second" rating from the character sheet as damage. Even if you stack this to 10K or so, it isn't much outgoing damage at all.

Much better to go with Bul Kathos Wedding Band. This does .4% of a mobs current HP as damage every second, works great a higher Torment levels.

My thought process was that I could use them as yet another source of damage ticks for Provoke|Charged Up to apply onto. Fire Walkers and its "Burn the ground you walk on, dealing 100% weapon damage each second", for example, ticks a number of times per second resulting in a surprising amount of damage when paired with Provoke|Charged Up.

I tested out the Death's Bargain pants on both my monk and crusader, but found the effect to be underwhelming overall. I was able to get 32K regen on my monk with Mantra of Healing|Sustenance and only a few pieces of regen gear, and up to 60K regen for 3 seconds when using Blinding Flash|Soothing Light, but even on normal difficulty the 300K damage just wasn't significant and it doesn't scale with difficulty obviously.

On my crusader I found that the aura did not tick as fast as Fire Walkers, ticking only 1-2 times per second max. Fire Walkers are reported to tick anywhere from 8-10 times per second. Provoke|Charged Up, btw, applies 50% weapon damage as lightning to any source of damage you deal, which means that each tick from skills/items receives that damage on top. If Death's Bargain ticked like Fire Walkers it would be a great addition but as-is the damage isn't worth giving up regen IMO.
 
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I just got some Fire Walkers the other day but I'm scared to use Fire Walkers + Provoke-Charged Up. Seems there's been several reports of people getting insta-gibbed using that combo vrs enemies with thorn and since I play on Hardcore....NOPE!
 
I just got some Fire Walkers the other day but I'm scared to use Fire Walkers + Provoke-Charged Up. Seems there's been several reports of people getting insta-gibbed using that combo vrs enemies with thorn and since I play on Hardcore....NOPE!

Care to link to one of those reports? I found this one but all it has is his story that includes Fire Walkers and a link from someone else to the Reflective Skin + Protect the Innocent bug that was causing players to instagib themselves (http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/10341144620#16).

I suppose it's possible that I haven't run into a reflect damage elite on that character before, but at 6000+ elite kills I doubt that is the case. It sounds like he was using Reflective Skin + Protect the Innocent to draw more damage to him, and the bug gibbed him.
 
Care to link to one of those reports? I found this one but all it has is his story that includes Fire Walkers and a link from someone else to the Reflective Skin + Protect the Innocent bug that was causing players to instagib themselves (http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/10341144620#16).

I suppose it's possible that I haven't run into a reflect damage elite on that character before, but at 6000+ elite kills I doubt that is the case. It sounds like he was using Reflective Skin + Protect the Innocent to draw more damage to him, and the bug gibbed him.

Don't really remember the post name, I came across the posts on the US battle.net forums a while ago. I think it was something to do with the crazy proc rate on Fire Walkers + Provoke: Charged Up proccing off each tick of Fire Walkers and running across an elite mob with thorns and possibly illusionist which caused all procs to reflect back at the hero. Might have been a case of someone exaggerating but it seems somewhat believable so I haven't really cared to test it out lol.
 
I noticed something similar with firewalkers once on normal mode doing box hunting it was a weird combo of elites and I instantly died with the elite group. Something is up with how fire walkers work and reflect that damages a significant amount.
 
I need a dedicated group. My luck with pugs is just horrible. Not to mention that for a straight week, almost ALL Legendary drops have been 2 hander swords, maces or staves, all of which are shit for my build.
 
I need a dedicated group. My luck with pugs is just horrible. Not to mention that for a straight week, almost ALL Legendary drops have been 2 hander swords, maces or staves, all of which are shit for my build.

Sounds like the luck my barb had.
 
hey guys
need some input on my wd.
im a bear build so ive been stacking poison damage.
but for my ammy, would it be better to reroll for crit damage or keep it as is?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kushy-1949/hero/40758530

im currently running t2, i do a hell of a lot of damage.
seems i kill elites much faster than others in the party.
but i die very easily, so any input on how to fix that would be great.
 
hey guys
need some input on my wd.
im a bear build so ive been stacking poison damage.
but for my ammy, would it be better to reroll for crit damage or keep it as is?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Kushy-1949/hero/40758530

im currently running t2, i do a hell of a lot of damage.
seems i kill elites much faster than others in the party.
but i die very easily, so any input on how to fix that would be great.

You have extremely low health for T2. My WD has around 392k hp and she still dies very quickly.

Why do you focus on attack speed? Attack speed helps a lot more on pet and fetish WDs, not bear. You need to change that glove, ammy, anything with attack speed and replace that with vit.

To recap, you need better:

Ring, glove, ammy. And you need 3 sockets in that chest.
 
You have extremely low health for T2. My WD has around 392k hp and she still dies very quickly.

Why do you focus on attack speed? Attack speed helps a lot more on pet and fetish WDs, not bear. You need to change that glove, ammy, anything with attack speed and replace that with vit.

To recap, you need better:

Ring, glove, ammy. And you need 3 sockets in that chest.

Are WD's that different? I can facetank T2 with my Wizard and he has 245k health.
 
Wizards have some of the best passive resistance in the game. WD is probably the glassiest of classes, and that's why the pets are there to tank for him. I would roll that ammy's attack speed into crit damage. If you wanna up your survival work the dogs or gargantuan into your build.
 
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