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I have to say, in the early days, the sheeples are the most annoying people around. I had a Palm Centro and then an HTC Hero. The sheeples keep on telling to get a better phone or switch carriers and stop being cheap. I can't exactly blame them now, I have to admit, because I was definitely fooling around too much with the phones, especially with the HTC Hero. Android early days did suck, and I'll admit to being an idiot phandroid... Now days, it's the Samsung drones going around all the time about their huge screens and the option to replace batteries. And then they gasp in awe when I can take pictures at dark places... Nowadays I look for a phone that I can actually use. Usability is #1, and I don't want to have to fiddle around with the phone to make it useful; phone must be good out of the box. The new LastPass app filler update will probably get me to stick with Android for a while.

okay.
 
That 'leak' really tells us nothing new, everyone already speculates about the 2 sizes, A8 is a given, the only 2 things are 1GB RAM (no surprise) and side power button, which Apple is sure to make a huge deal of in their typical overblown hype.

Still its not like any of this matters. A new iPhone will sell no matter what, everyone knows this.
 
It would be stupid to release two new phones with resolutions not matching any other devices.
 
I'm skeptical. Ming-Chi Kuo is one of the few analysts that doesn't just pull rumored specs out of thin air, but he's sometimes wrong -- and that's an awful lot of detail to have when the next iPhone update is likely half a year away.

One big problem: he mentions NFC. Now, I know that a metal casing doesn't automatically rule out NFC, but Apple might. It hates pseudo-standards that are really under the control of no more than a few other companies (see: Flash, PlaysForSure, Ultraviolet), and NFC has that problem to some degree. At least, for mobile payments. If Apple does NFC at all, it'll either stick to non-commerce (AirDrop, peripheral pairing) or develop something that only works with its phones. It's very up in the air.
 
The issue is credit card companies are supporting nfc, and the only reason nfc payment hasn't really been picked up is due to Apple not participating. Primary reason why square innovated "check in payment" that you see at Starbucks.
 
Not all credit card companies are on board with NFC and that's part of the problem. Big players don't want google taking over their place and their transaction fees. Of course apple just couldn't stand to have a google technology win either. There is a very serious low key format war going on in this space now.
 
Anything is better than whatever Apple will propose. Every Apple tech is proprietary, locked, and designed to increase prices. They've destroyed the AV market with stupid AirPlay, car market with proprietary protocols etc.

Tech proposed by Google/MS is open standards and designed to be used by anyone and any device.

Apple is poison. Their only impact is because of market penetration which is due to marketing hype.
 
Not all credit card companies are on board with NFC and that's part of the problem. Big players don't want google taking over their place and their transaction fees. Of course apple just couldn't stand to have a google technology win either. There is a very serious low key format war going on in this space now.
well, I doubt there's anything to do with that. The current outdated credit card POS systems would be hurt. But they can't stop a company such as Target to buy POS systems from others that takes NFC payments. NFC just pops back credit card numbers (securely). And app payment such as square and PayPal would be much more dangerous to current models, but POS providers still cannot stop any store from implementing it.

As for Google getting a cut, I don't think Google does at all. Google does however get your shopping habits... So got that, there's also Isis. Visa/MasterCard supports both. AMEX supports Isis, and Discover supports Google. Although Amex would still work with Google and Discover would vice versa. Isis gives a cut to whoever for advertising data that they sell; Google doesn't the last time I checked.

If you mean banking institutions, Chase and Wells Fargo supports Isis.
 
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just ordered my HTC One M8, my iphone is nice but ill give android a shot again.. i cant get a full work day out of my iphone.. sick of being plugged in
 
Anything is better than whatever Apple will propose. Every Apple tech is proprietary, locked, and designed to increase prices. They've destroyed the AV market with stupid AirPlay, car market with proprietary protocols etc.

Tech proposed by Google/MS is open standards and designed to be used by anyone and any device.

Apple is poison. Their only impact is because of market penetration which is due to marketing hype.

lol not sure if trolling or....

I don't see how Airplay has anything to do with 'destroying' the 'AV market' (or that it was ever 'destroyed' in the first place). Airplay works great if you have iOS devices and it's zero configuration... DLNA and other protocols still exist and work just fine as well.

The fact that you're mad about proprietary future infotainment systems in cars is also just comical. If anything, it should be a lot more open to 3rd parties than current designs. If you've ever had to deal with MFT and Sync, you know what I mean. It's a step in the right direction because EVERY SINGLE implementation sucks balls. Each manufacturer does their own thing and makes it extremely expensive and even impossible in some cases to upgrade it and/or add features. Microsoft had their crack at it with Ford (but who knows... Ford is likely just as guilty if not more so) and blew it big time. That's the number one complaint with new Fords.

It's cool if you prefer the MS and/or Google brands, but that's a ridiculous emotional rant that really has no basis in reality. Apple is succeeding because they make great hardware and software (weather you care for their business model or not is completely irrelevant). Their marketing and cult status wasn't helping them in the mid-90's when they almost went under completely (even though they ruled the 80's PC market). It took them making a good product, that people actually wanted, to reap the rewards.
 
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It is a little bit of a rant, but its based in reality. I know that existing protocols like DLNA didn't work that well, mostly because they were not supported well. Apple comes in and announces a proprietary tech, sure it works better, but its then adopted my oem's (in things like TVs, AV receivers, speakers) which locks out any other device/technology.

This is not how other companies operate. They introduce a consumer tech and make it open so other companies can also use and enhance it. Do you not think Sync is a better tech than the new Apple car protocol? The only reason it tanked is because Ford didn't sell enough and they didn't want to keep paying MS for exclusive use. Because no one has heard of it.

Yet pretty much every car comes with an iPhone adapter, which of course adds extra cost and royalty to Apple, instead of the standard usb connection which would work with all phones/devices. Because 'iPhone support' sells a lot better.
 
It is a little bit of a rant, but its based in reality. I know that existing protocols like DLNA didn't work that well, mostly because they were not supported well. Apple comes in and announces a proprietary tech, sure it works better, but its then adopted my oem's (in things like TVs, AV receivers, speakers) which locks out any other device/technology.

This is not how other companies operate. They introduce a consumer tech and make it open so other companies can also use and enhance it. Do you not think Sync is a better tech than the new Apple car protocol? The only reason it tanked is because Ford didn't sell enough and they didn't want to keep paying MS for exclusive use. Because no one has heard of it.

Yet pretty much every car comes with an iPhone adapter, which of course adds extra cost and royalty to Apple, instead of the standard usb connection which would work with all phones/devices. Because 'iPhone support' sells a lot better.

I don't think AirPlay and in-car adapters (many just use USB) necessarily lock out other tech -- it's just that the formats for other platforms are either so-so (DLNA, for example) or stuck in that chicken-and-egg circle where they don't have enough support on phones, so no one feels compelled to support them on peripherals, so no one supports them on phones.

To me, openness and standards only mean something if there's a concrete plan to make them useful. Remember the joke about every year being the year of Linux on the desktop, no really we mean it this time? That illustrates the problem nicely: the contributors are so obsessed with openness and independence that there's little effort to move the overall platform forward. Open and standard are great, but I'd rather have proprietary tech in a given area than wait years for everyone to get their act together.
 
AirPlay, Chromecast, DLNA, Miracast, WiDi... just 4 examples of different implementations to do the basically the same thing. WiDi also support Miracast, and WiDi seems to stream better from one client to the other. You can't hate on AirPlay without also hating on Chromecast, although Chromecast hardware is much cheaper.

Can you really blame Apple for 30-pin and Lightning? 30-pin came out when every OEM had proprietary and very often product specific chargers. Apple actually standardized all its own mobile product line with a single 30-pin connection. Thanks to lots of people having iPods, it did save them from having too many wires. As for Lightning, technically speaking, yes, micro-USB 2.0 is the standard, but Apple knows it'll be obsolete in 2-3 years. USB Type-C has been worked on for a while by Intel/Foxconn. Well, I just found a good section from Wikipedia that talks about it better than I can.

All I can say is USB Type-C can't come soon enough.
 
It is a little bit of a rant, but its based in reality. I know that existing protocols like DLNA didn't work that well, mostly because they were not supported well. Apple comes in and announces a proprietary tech, sure it works better, but its then adopted my oem's (in things like TVs, AV receivers, speakers) which locks out any other device/technology.

If it works better, then why not use it? :p I don't know of a single TV or receiver that locks out other devices (while supporting iOS). If other companies refuse to improve existing or create their own technology standards, why fault Apple for picking up the ball, where everyone else dropped it, and running with it? I'm not an Apple Zealot by any means, but I have an AppleTV in my house and I can honestly say that I've never had an issue with airplay. Quality and reliability are top notch. I agree that it sucks that a Galaxy phone cant stream audio/video via airplay (officially at least) but it's probably part of the reason why it works as well as it does.

This is not how other companies operate. They introduce a consumer tech and make it open so other companies can also use and enhance it. Do you not think Sync is a better tech than the new Apple car protocol? The only reason it tanked is because Ford didn't sell enough and they didn't want to keep paying MS for exclusive use. Because no one has heard of it.

Thats exactly how ALL businesses operate. The reasons that Google allows other companies and people to use their products for free isn't out of the kindness of their harts... and yes, I do think Apple will build a better system. I own a 2013 Ford and sync is a buggy mess. It's better than nothing, but there is a LOT of room for improvement.

Yet pretty much every car comes with an iPhone adapter, which of course adds extra cost and royalty to Apple, instead of the standard usb connection which would work with all phones/devices. Because 'iPhone support' sells a lot better.

I've, personally, never seen a car that came with an iPhone charging cable, let alone wouldn't work with other phones (not saying they don't exist)... the vast vast vast majority come with standard USB ports that you plug your own charge/sync cable up to.
 
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Let's talk about car infotainment systems in general... they ALL, and yes, ALL OF THEM, SUCK right now.

Ford Sync and Toyota Intune (both skins of Microsoft's system) are clearly the best of all of them, and yet, they still SUCK big time! Big cause of traffic accidents too!

Believe me. I just bought a brand new car (Chevy Volt). Oh, how I just want Chevy to allow me to reskin that shit and tell me to add some more touch intuitive gestures. They are all awful as hell. Wish I could miracast or DLNA my phone to that screen. Hell, the Android Wear interface which is basically Google Now would be better...
 
Let's talk about car infotainment systems in general... they ALL, and yes, ALL OF THEM, SUCK right now.

Ford Sync and Toyota Intune (both skins of Microsoft's system) are clearly the best of all of them, and yet, they still SUCK big time! Big cause of traffic accidents too!

Believe me. I just bought a brand new car (Chevy Volt). Oh, how I just want Chevy to allow me to reskin that shit and tell me to add some more touch intuitive gestures. They are all awful as hell. Wish I could miracast or DLNA my phone to that screen. Hell, the Android Wear interface which is basically Google Now would be better...

I want to try Honda's new system. It's capacitive touch with gestures, which is frankly way overdue in the car world. I don't think it'll be the dream system, but Honda has said it's getting CarPlay -- that could do a lot for automotive tech.
 
Yeah, it's something of a straw man to say "Apple is nothing but closed and proprietary!"

Apple adopts open technology and standards (or rival formats) when it believes they both advance its platforms and, more importantly, aren't going to be hijacked. PlaysForSure is a good example. Many insisted that Apple "must" use Microsoft's DRM scheme because, hey, that'd mean you could put music from other stores on your iPod. But it was Microsoft's 'standard,' not a universal technology; Apple rightly believed that the only true standard would be to remove DRM altogether. And the music stores that were fooled into treating PlaysForSure as a standard? A few of them not only closed after Microsoft launched the Zune (arguably to pick up their slack), but were inches away from preventing you from listening to music you bought by shutting down their PFS servers.

You can also look at Thunderbolt. Apple got first dibs on it, but it worked with Intel to make this a technology that any x86 PC builder could use. There was little incentive to keep it proprietary, but lots of incentives to make it a widely available standard (adoption would drive demand).
 
Purported iPhone 6 front panel leak confirms major redesign
http://www.iphonote.com/actu/61838/fuite-iphone-6-voici-la-supposee-vitre-dun-futur-iphone-6

Discovered on Chinese social network Weibo by iPhonote, the image seems to show a 4.7-inch iPhone 6 placed next to a 4-inch iPhone 5s. This leaked front panel suggests the 4.7-inch iPhone 6 will be both taller and wider than its predecessor. Other iconic iPhone design elements including the Home button, earpiece, front camera and sensors can also be seen.
 
Hope that's not real. That's way too much bezel. It makes sense now why the Galaxy Note series has a flattened oval home button.
 
Renders are now out based on the accessories manufacturers leaked:
http://9to5mac.com/2014/04/25/iphon...essory-manufacturers-leak-claim-6mm-thinness/
http://bgr.com/2014/04/25/iphone-6-rumors-curved-display-photos/

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6mm thin :confused: When is too thin ? What kind of battery life can they expect with such a razor thin phone ?

And a larger screen is useless, if iOS is still the same, that looks like someone left the app drawer open, with the home screen just a bunch of app icons :rolleyes: They need Widgets or Live Tiles or something more than just rows of app icons.
 
It looks like a longer iPhone 5. Screen is still tiny compared to other phones.

I've used many of these recent phones, and the difference between 4.7-inch and 5-inch screens isn't that big. Tiny, relatively speaking, is the current iPhone or something like the Z1 Compact.
 
I think 4.7 is a decent size, I would take 5" if the bezel was razor thin. The Z2/Z1 have rather large bezels the 5" screen phone is more comparable to 5.3" because of the bezels. As long as it is good to hold in one hand and Apple does something to update iOS iPhone 6 will be a solid buy for me, I also need to get my mom and dad new phones. There's a high chance that I will buy it for them as Christmas presents.
 
I think apple will be smart to stay slightly smaller than the flagship phones of the competition. Its a game if being small is a reason they get some customers, but has been causing them to lose other customers going bigger will help them gain back some, but staying just smaller than everyone else will force existing customers to see them as the only choice for a small phone, even if it is now getting to big for comfort.

Its a classic large company market holding decision. Just like how everyone went flat and copied windows phone to try to make sure that the interface of windows phone was not unique enough to gain MS customers.
 
It's still too early to take these rumors too seriously IMO but that's still as tall as G2...
 
It's still too early to take these rumors too seriously IMO but that's still as tall as G2...

The G2 is a bit of an exception, mind you! It has some of the thinnest vertical bezels of any modern smartphone. I wouldn't be surprised if the next iPhone is as tall as the G2 simply because Apple needs room for Touch ID (and possibly other items).
 
If it really is using a curved display, I wonder why?

I'm not expecting it to, but I would guess comfort. One of the nicest things of some Lumias (like the 1020) is that "roll-off" where the glass gradually slopes into the phone body.
 
so they can say they did it more likely. lol if apple cared about comfort then why squared off edges on the phones for so many generations now?
 
I'm not expecting it to, but I would guess comfort. One of the nicest things of some Lumias (like the 1020) is that "roll-off" where the glass gradually slopes into the phone body.

Well that is curved glass, not display, unless they are trying to do the same with an expensive display.
 
so they can say they did it more likely. lol if apple cared about comfort then why squared off edges on the phones for so many generations now?

I hope someone patented the rounded edges so they can out troll Apple if they try to use it.
 
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