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If you're not familiar with the Creative Labs Surround Station, have a look:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1526467
They've been discontinued for a good 10+ years and are impossible to find. I always thought it was a genius idea to let people have rear surround speakers that can retract out of the way, but it's very niche and I've never seen a competing product.
I've been trying to come up with a practical alternative for some time - one of the main problems is that a speaker suspended some 3-4 feet out creates a lot of leverage and even if your arm can hold it, it must be anchored or things are going to flip over.
I have a Chief Mfg KTP325b stand (http://www.chiefmfg.com/Products/KTP325B) that is permanently fixed to my desk using these grommets http://www.chiefmfg.com/Series/KTA1007
I also use the 28 inch poles (http://www.chiefmfg.com/Series/KTA1028) and as you can see, they're scratched up to hell from my many experiments with speed rail. I don't really need the long poles (I had a shelf over my screens, but didn't like it) so I'm going back to the original 14" poles which won't protrude over the top.
This is how the main mast is anchored - a T connector off the monitor support pole, connected to a 45 degree connector that is rotated a bit to give me the angle I wanted. The speaker wire actually travels through the length of the arm and exits the main mast, out of view:
Hollaender part 5E-8 (T) and 6-8 (45deg)
This is 1.5" PVC - I bought a 2', pre cut length at Home Depot and covered it with carbon fiber vinyl film.
The hinge is from Hollaender - part 3AE-8 (size 8 means 1.5" ID, 1.91" OD)
http://www.hollaender.com/?page=sliponfittings15
http://www.hollaender.com/files/1\Tech_Data/Part_Drawings/3AE.pdf
These run around $20 each.
Ebay is a good source for the Hollaender speed rail parts - they have a decent finish, but quality control is spotty - a few parts seemed like bad molds and overall fit on the hinges is all over the place.
The Kee Klamp Kee-Lite products cost a little more, but they are much higher quality. Still, for this project, the Hollaender parts are fine.
Here is the arm extended and holding the Orb Mod1 speaker:
It's about 4' long overall and the speaker ends up about 1 foot behind my head and 2 feet to the side.
You can see the hole I drilled to let the speaker wire exit the arm.
Here is the arm retracted:
One of my constraints was that the arm needed to retract in a way that did not increase the height - my desk is an electric powered, sit to stand desk and in the retracted picture, the desk is at full height. I can't change arm position while the desk is up, but unlike some of my earlier designs, I don't have to worry about knocking into the ceiling.
Things left to do:
0. replace the two PVC 45 degree connectors with a single 90 degree part where the speaker attaches to the arm.
1. paint or cover the white PVC connectors
2. complete the right side
3. replace the 28" poles with the 14" poles to clean up the look.
4. Lower the arm about 1" so you can't see the silver connector peeking over the left screen.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1526467
They've been discontinued for a good 10+ years and are impossible to find. I always thought it was a genius idea to let people have rear surround speakers that can retract out of the way, but it's very niche and I've never seen a competing product.
I've been trying to come up with a practical alternative for some time - one of the main problems is that a speaker suspended some 3-4 feet out creates a lot of leverage and even if your arm can hold it, it must be anchored or things are going to flip over.
I have a Chief Mfg KTP325b stand (http://www.chiefmfg.com/Products/KTP325B) that is permanently fixed to my desk using these grommets http://www.chiefmfg.com/Series/KTA1007
I also use the 28 inch poles (http://www.chiefmfg.com/Series/KTA1028) and as you can see, they're scratched up to hell from my many experiments with speed rail. I don't really need the long poles (I had a shelf over my screens, but didn't like it) so I'm going back to the original 14" poles which won't protrude over the top.
This is how the main mast is anchored - a T connector off the monitor support pole, connected to a 45 degree connector that is rotated a bit to give me the angle I wanted. The speaker wire actually travels through the length of the arm and exits the main mast, out of view:
Hollaender part 5E-8 (T) and 6-8 (45deg)
This is 1.5" PVC - I bought a 2', pre cut length at Home Depot and covered it with carbon fiber vinyl film.
The hinge is from Hollaender - part 3AE-8 (size 8 means 1.5" ID, 1.91" OD)
http://www.hollaender.com/?page=sliponfittings15
http://www.hollaender.com/files/1\Tech_Data/Part_Drawings/3AE.pdf
These run around $20 each.
Ebay is a good source for the Hollaender speed rail parts - they have a decent finish, but quality control is spotty - a few parts seemed like bad molds and overall fit on the hinges is all over the place.
The Kee Klamp Kee-Lite products cost a little more, but they are much higher quality. Still, for this project, the Hollaender parts are fine.
Here is the arm extended and holding the Orb Mod1 speaker:
It's about 4' long overall and the speaker ends up about 1 foot behind my head and 2 feet to the side.
You can see the hole I drilled to let the speaker wire exit the arm.
Here is the arm retracted:
One of my constraints was that the arm needed to retract in a way that did not increase the height - my desk is an electric powered, sit to stand desk and in the retracted picture, the desk is at full height. I can't change arm position while the desk is up, but unlike some of my earlier designs, I don't have to worry about knocking into the ceiling.
Things left to do:
0. replace the two PVC 45 degree connectors with a single 90 degree part where the speaker attaches to the arm.
1. paint or cover the white PVC connectors
2. complete the right side
3. replace the 28" poles with the 14" poles to clean up the look.
4. Lower the arm about 1" so you can't see the silver connector peeking over the left screen.
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