New PC Gamer/ Building 1st PC

Ebernanut said:
You might have trouble finding a second 780 ti for SLI in 3-4 years and by the time 780 ti SLI will likely be weaker than a new single card, I really think that you're overestimating the difference between the 780 ti and the cards right below it. The 780 ti is for people that want the absolute best GPU and don't care about cost, most people that buy a card like that will likely turn around and replace it with the next top end card as soon as it's released. I certainly wouldn't spend the money on that before getting an SSD.

I don't know anything about that specific power supply but my impression is that XFX PSUs tend to be hit or miss, I tend to prefer Corsair and Seasonic PSUs but I would consider any brand if the specific model I was looking at had a favorable review here or on Jonny Guru's site.

I wouldn't bother with ram over 1600 mhz, if you really want more memory bandwidth you should go with a quad channel setup or wait for DDR4 but I doubt you would ever notice much difference. I would avoid Adata and go with a more reputable brand, there's a reason they tend to be a little bit cheaper than other ram with comparable specs. I would also get more than 8 gbs, it's plenty for most things now but won't be for long and once DDR4 comes out DDR3 prices will likely increase.

Some of the criticism of your choices may sound harsh but I think that people are just trying to point you in the right direction. :)
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Valid points. So maybe il go with the corsair and drop the wattage. Since you said il probably just be buying a new gpu in 4 years instead of the sli. I just had it in my head I could find another 780 ti for dirt cheap and be able to match the performance or close to the flagship card in 2018.
 
Adding more memory at a later date is not a very good idea. DDR4 is coming out soon which means DDR3 production is decreasing and prices will go up. Just go with 16gb, I'm on 8gb and I often go up to 6gb. Get a 250gb-500gb SSD as well.

Buying a high end GPU to last the next 4 years is not the greatest plan. It would be much more advisable to buy a good GPU that will last a few years. The money you save can buy you a new CPU when you need it and you can sell the old one. If you go from AMD to AMD or Nvidia to Nvidia you won't even need to do anything with drivers. As others say, the TI is roughly 20% faster than the non-TI and about 30% more expensive. In 2-3 years you may want to get a card with DX12, more memory, HDMI 2.0...but it's up to you.

You want to buy a 780 ti is 4 years? It wouldn't be that easy to find one, and in my experience GPUs don't last that long.
 
cnaratcliff said:
Im going for the i5 4670k. Going to overclock to 4 probably. I want framerates high for a long long time. Powerful GPU will do that for me. ill add more ram at a later date and an ssd. What mother board should I go with that is affordable and well safely overclock my cpu? i5 4670k.
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Like I said for my money, an Intel board. Thing is if you want to overclock, you have to get their "high end" board, the DZ87KLT-75K. It'll be pricey though, as it has tons o' features, and Intel boards cost more than comparable boards. They can charge more because, well, their stuff works damn good.

They do have a more economical board, but it doesn't do overclocking.
 
Sycraft said:
Like I said for my money, an Intel board. Thing is if you want to overclock, you have to get their "high end" board, the DZ87KLT-75K. It'll be pricey though, as it has tons o' features, and Intel boards cost more than comparable boards. They can charge more because, well, their stuff works damn good.

They do have a more economical board, but it doesn't do overclocking.
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the last post on page 2 is the motherboard im looking at. Supports i5 and has overclocking features built in. $130
 
silk186 said:
Adding more m mory at a later date is not a very good idea. DDR4 is coming out soon which means DDR3 production is decreasing and prices will go up. Just go with 16gb, I'm on 8gb and I often go up to 6gb. Get a 250gb-500gb SSD as well.

Buying a high end GPU to last the next 4 years is not the greatest plan. It would be much more advisable to buy a good GPU that will last a few years. The money you save can buy you a new CPU when you need it and you can sell the old one. If you go from AMD to AMD or Nvidia to Nvidia you won't even need to do anything with drivers. As others say, the TI is roughly 20% faster than the non-TI and about 30% more expensive. In 2-3 years you may want to get a card with DX12, more memory, HDMI 2.0...but it's up to you.

You want to buy a 780 ti is 4 years? It wouldn't be that easy to find one, and in my experience GPUs don't last that long.
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DX12 is software related. Not hardware. Google it and its like 3rd link down. Does not require new pc components. But the more memory thing is definately real.
 
I just want to say that 4 years later you will not be able to use this PC for gaming at high/very high quality.
 
cnaratcliff said:
Il be playing on 600hz. Plasma for gaming has always been the best in my opinion. Ive had every tv technology and plasma takes the cake for me. Im looking at an atx motherboard z87. I don't want to go Micro. Is the asrock z87 extreme 4 a good board? its ATX seems to have everything i need. Also looking for a sufficent cooling case that doesn't brake the bank.
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A lot of the Asrock boards seem to have mix opinions reading reviews on them. I've never worked with one personally.
You get a lot of features for the money but on a lot of the Hardocp reviews they question the quality of the components on some models.
They did have pretty good things to say about the ASRock Z87 KILLER FATAL1TY. I couldn't say if this should reflect their whole Z87 line up. I do like the Extreme 4 features better compared to the Fatality model, and other reviews out there seem favorable towards it.
I know when I was shopping around the popular boards around that price range was ASUS Z87-A (Won gold on HardOCP), MSI Z87-G45 (Gets good reviews everywhere, mine was bad and I decided to try Gigabyte instead of replacing it.), and the GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H which has been great for me.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/01/29/asrock_z87_killer_fatal1ty_motherboard_review/1
 
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Tbird87 said:
A lot of the Asrock boards seem to have mix opinions reading reviews on them. I've never worked with one personally.
You get a lot of features for the money but on a lot of the Hardocp reviews they question the quality of the components on some models.
They did have pretty good things to say about the ASRock Z87 KILLER FATAL1TY. I couldn't say if this should reflect their whole Z87 line up. I do like the Extreme 4 features better compared to the Fatality model, and other reviews out there seem favorable towards it.
I know when I was shopping around the popular boards around that price range was ASUS Z87-A (Won gold on HardOCP), MSI Z87-G45 (Gets good reviews everywhere, mine was bad and I decided to try Gigabyte instead of replacing it.), and the GIGABYTE GA-Z87X-D3H which has been great for me.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/01/29/asrock_z87_killer_fatal1ty_motherboard_review/1
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Good read. And thanks for the info
 
The build I did this year had a ASRock board and I love it. The menus are easy and the built in overclocking has kept my 4770k stable at 4.0ghz without having to tune a thing.

I'll concur with everyone elseon getting 16gb of memory. That, and a SSD. I don't know how I ever lived without one. I hate using my laptop now because of it.
 
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