Xbox One & PlayStation 4 Comparison Thread

Yeah well, I am loving my Xbox one and getting daily use of it. Sometimes to play games, often as a media center hub. Thankfully, it is only going to get better as time goes on. :) As a side note, I wonder if there are unlockable shaders on this chip in the Xbox one and if so, would they do it? (Just speculation of course, no proof.) Since the PS4 is mostly just a gaming machine, I would not have bothered with it myself. That is since I no longer have the time to play games I once did and for me, I do not have $400 to spend on a dust collector. (Besides, I spent about that on my R9 290 and have not played much with it either.)
 
YeuEmMaiMai said:
lol, why don't you do us all a favor and read the first post duh, PS4 has better graphics hardware and it clearly shows.... but hey if you feel good about paying $100 more for inferior hardware then by all means... Thankfully the rest of the consumer market has picked up on this fact and chose to go with the platform that not only is cheaper by $100 but delivers better gaming performance...

If you honestly think that 32MB of eSRAM is going to outperform a vastly larger memory GDDR5 pool, I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.... that DDR3 is a significant weak point in the system...

You mean the XBONE was the best MS could do? really? Didn't they see that Nintendo beat them out with the same tech over a year ago? BTW last week the XBONE global sales were 12.26K more than the Wii U, now what does THAT tell you?
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None of that matters since I own all 3 current gen systems and enjoy them equally and understand the limitations of each. It is common knowledge that the PS4 is the more powerful system this generation but that does not in any way mean the games are somehow less fun on the xbox which apparently you fail to grasp.

So please by all means continue your discussion. I want you to know that you are a very special person and that your PS4 loves you and validates you as a very important person.
 
I just hope Destiny is good one of the reason why I picked one up along with rumored Demon souls 2.
 
Probably no longer a rumor

Ubisoft have revealed during their Watch Dogs press conference that the game will run on the following resolutions and framerate for next gen systems:


•PS4: 1080p/30fps
•Xbox One: 960p/30fps
•PC: up to 4K/framerate varies
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Does OP know that anything 720p or higher is technically HD?

I suppose that isn't so interesting though. It's more exciting to complain and get people talking.
 
bigdogchris said:
Probably no longer a rumor

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Considering the launch date has been announced and cemented I'm sure those resolutions are probably final.

Regardless the difference between 1080p and 960p is so fractional that unless you use a projector and project at least on to a 100 inch screen .. you won't be able to see much of a difference. Frame rate is where we are likely to notice a difference however as even though both are capped at 30 I imagine the PS4 will maintain a more frequent/consistent frame rate over the One.

However most console gamers I know barely notice frame rate issues unless it dips into the teens so its still a nit pick issue that's left for forum goers like us to debate/argue/flame over.

The One is inferior .. not by much but it is. The PS4 is and will remain the victor in terms of raw graphical output. This will not change this generation. Will it impact sales dramatically? No , price impacts sales more than anything else and right now at $100 more the Xbox One is the weaker offering despite its superior handling of software. There is no need for a debate , people have been debating over graphics for decades .. just head to the video card forums for proof on that. There is no update or change in software that will suddenly upgrade an Xbox One to the raw throughput of the PS4 plain and simple. This new generation of consoles will allow developers to tap the hardware with greater efficiency than in any previous generation. Do not expect a dramatic difference between games of the first 2 years and the games of the last 5 years graphically. I realize for many console owners this is a hard reality to accept since they are use to improvements over time but even with software refinements you can't change hardware without physically altering the systems post launch with superior solutions which isn't going to happen and eliminates the point of a console to begin with as a platform.
 
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Zero Cool said:
You're missing Fifa, Madden, NBA2K14, Need for Speed... All of those run at 1080p/60FPS on both machines. I game on a 780ti so the consoles really don't interest me... It is irritating, however, that no matter what forum you go to there's always one Sony fanboy (usually dozens) trying to justify purchasing his or hers new toy. Instead of just focusing on the resolution of a handful of multiplatform game why not look at the bigger picture? The PS4's controller is uncomfortable, the battery life is a joke, the UI looks very similar to my 2004 Sony DVD player, PSN is still brutally slow, the console sounds like a hair dryer while playing graphically intense games and to be honest, there's not a single exclusive game available for it that looks even halfway decent. Other than the resolution in a few different games, the Xbox One is by far the superior console. I'm just happy that I can game on a PC so I don't have to settle for either one of them.
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VladDracule said:
Fifa? NBA2k14?
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Need for Speed has been on there since the beginning (30 fps on both btw), FIFA, Madden, NBA 2k, etc. are sports titles.

I totally agree with battery life being too low especially coming off the DS3, but PSN is not slow. PS3's PSN is slow as balls, but the PS4 version is quite fast. It's also not using the same UI as a 2004 DVD player... I can't help but think you only have experience with the PS3 and not the PS4.

I was a fan of the 360 controller last gen and still use it for my PC, but the DS4 is leaps and bounds better than DS3. At this point it's preference between how you like your analog sticks. Before the DS3 was just bad and needed a revision back in the R&D phase of PS3. It's the same controller as the original Dual Shock.

VladDracule said:
Its not that useful when the OP is omitting a significant amount of information, including exclusive in game content, and many many games that are at parity on both consoles. It paints an obvious bias and does not in any way provide 100% truthful information
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Exclusive in game content is not worth mentioning Vlad, at best it is usually another 1 hour of gameplay or a different character in a fighting game (the last Soul Caliber comes to mind iirc). Most games generally have something small specifically for each platform so the front of the box says "Only on Playstation" or "Only on Xbox One". It's more marketing than anything else.

All Sports titles for the entirety of this generation are going to be 1080p/60.

EDIT: I'll add that last part to the OP.
 
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Climber said:
it does no good to even begin to try and have a rational discussion with either YeuEmMaiMai or next-jin. One will call you a MS cock gobbler repeatedly and the other will just act all smug and passive aggressive with you.

It apparently helps to validate their virtual lives on forums. :eek:
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You're going to associate Yue and me? Really?

I agree with the smug part, but passive aggressive? Do you even know what that type of behavior actually is? I don't try to covertly rub things in, if I did I'd be posting in the other dozen Xbox One/Wii U threads. Don't over analyze what you see in my posts, it shows your lack of critical thinking.
 
Climber said:
None of that matters since I own all 3 current gen systems and enjoy them equally and understand the limitations of each. It is common knowledge that the PS4 is the more powerful system this generation but that does not in any way mean the games are somehow less fun on the xbox which apparently you fail to grasp.

So please by all means continue your discussion. I want you to know that you are a very special person and that your PS4 loves you and validates you as a very important person.
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too bad I don't have a PS4 and too bad I don't want to pay MS for things I can do free with other consoles that I already have. I am definitely not going to pay them $500 for slightly more functionality as a $300 Wii U either....

Maybe I'll get a PS4 when they get a good ratchet and clank selection going on...
 
teletran8 said:
Does OP know that anything 720p or higher is technically HD?

I suppose that isn't so interesting though. It's more exciting to complain and get people talking.
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720p still looks like garbage on my monitor. I don't game with my consoles on a TV.
 
YeuEmMaiMai said:
too bad I don't have a PS4 and too bad I don't want to pay MS for things I can do free with other consoles that I already have. I am definitely not going to pay them $500 for slightly more functionality as a $300 Wii U either....

Maybe I'll get a PS4 when they get a good ratchet and clank selection going on...
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So let me get this straight. You don't own a current gen system but post repeatedly in there calling people names, insulting them, and repeatedly telling them what a shit to experience the xone is against the ps4. Gotcha. So you're full of shit and just trolling people. You really are a special kind of special.
 
Climber said:
So let me get this straight. You don't own a current gen system but post repeatedly in there calling people names, insulting them, and repeatedly telling them what a shit to experience the xone is against the ps4. Gotcha. So you're full of shit and just trolling people. You really are a special kind of special.
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I'm not sure why he keeps saying Microsoft copied the Wii U's hardware design. It's not the first time he has brought it up.
 
^ lol lets make a small comparison

MS uses DDR3 for Main System Ram? Check
MS uses small ESRAM cache to *try* and offset performance penalties but alas, it does not even manage to keep up with the PS4 at all

Lets go back to 2012 shall we?

Wii U comes out with DDR3 main system ram
Wii U effectively uses ESRAM buffer to deliver a SOLID 720p gaming experience

So lets see who copied who again?

MS tried to go on the cheap without understanding WHY Nintendo does what they do and they got seriously burnt

and for the dude that says a Wii U isn't current gen...lol okay...

you have Sony and MS and this time around Sony actually did it right, MS didn't even come close......and you have to PAY MORE for an INFERIOR experience when it comes to gaming...talk about being backwards...
 
YeuEmMaiMai said:
^ lol lets make a small comparison

MS uses DDR3 for Main System Ram? Check
MS uses small ESRAM cache to *try* and offset performance penalties but alas, it does not even manage to keep up with the PS4 at all

Lets go back to 2012 shall we?

Wii U comes out with DDR3 main system ram
Wii U effectively uses ESRAM buffer to deliver a SOLID 720p gaming experience

So lets see who copied who again?

MS tried to go on the cheap without understanding WHY Nintendo does what they do and they got seriously burnt

and for the dude that says a Wii U isn't current gen...lol okay...

you have Sony and MS and this time around Sony actually did it right, MS didn't even come close......and you have to PAY MORE for an INFERIOR experience when it comes to gaming...talk about being backwards...
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This is really stupid but I'll bite.

They didn't copy Nintendo all they did was keep some of what the 360 had.
Nintendo is still using IBM CPU. Microsoft is not.
360 has AMD gpu with edram Xbox one AMD APU and esram.

And what may seem pointless to you as included features isn't to others.
I use the TV function with my media center pc just like I did with the 360. Except now I can snap news or sports while I play and change channels by voice that useful to me.

PS4 is a great system I like it a lot and just use it for gaming since its a shifty Blu-Ray player. But note that both are shifty for Blu-Ray till they output audio to receiver properly.

Both are going to have great games just like the Wii u has great games if you can't afford to enjoy them all that's your problem but coming here and spouting hate toward one or another is getting really old.

Too many of you just need to grow up and cut the bullshit . quit trying to piss in other peoples cheerios
 
360 had eDRAM but was also GDDR3. The eDRAM really wasn't necessary like how the sRAM is necessary for One. On 360, the system could write GPU data right to the GDDR memory and unload zbuffer stuff to the eDRAM to free up memory bandwidth. One doesn't have that luxury because they must use the SRAM for almost everything GPU related to get a decent framerate. That explains why the One games that do output at 1080p are using deferred rendering,: there simply isn't enough memory to do it all real time with the advanced rendering and AA you can get with forward rendering techniques.
 
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YeuEmMaiMai said:
^ lol lets make a small comparison

MS uses DDR3 for Main System Ram? Check
MS uses small ESRAM cache to *try* and offset performance penalties but alas, it does not even manage to keep up with the PS4 at all

Lets go back to 2012 shall we?

Wii U comes out with DDR3 main system ram
Wii U effectively uses ESRAM buffer to deliver a SOLID 720p gaming experience

So lets see who copied who again?
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Wow... Like a couple people have already pointed out, the 360 already had a very similar hardware configuration, with 512MB of shared DDR3 memory and 10MB of eDRAM for the GPU, in the form of a second, daughter die. When you take into account the 360 came out over EIGHT years ago, and a year before even the regular Wii (let alone the WiiU), your "comparison" holds no water.
 
HisSvt76 said:
This is really stupid but I'll bite.

They didn't copy Nintendo all they did was keep some of what the 360 had.
Nintendo is still using IBM CPU. Microsoft is not.
360 has AMD gpu with edram Xbox one AMD APU and esram.

And what may seem pointless to you as included features isn't to others.
I use the TV function with my media center pc just like I did with the 360. Except now I can snap news or sports while I play and change channels by voice that useful to me.

PS4 is a great system I like it a lot and just use it for gaming since its a shifty Blu-Ray player. But note that both are shifty for Blu-Ray till they output audio to receiver properly.

Both are going to have great games just like the Wii u has great games if you can't afford to enjoy them all that's your problem but coming here and spouting hate toward one or another is getting really old.

Too many of you just need to grow up and cut the bullshit . quit trying to piss in other peoples cheerios
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I bought an xbox one because I was sold on what the kinect brings to the media center "voice controls / hand gesture controls" But im pretty dismayed with its effectiveness. "Xbox go home" seems to work 80% of the time, but most other commands have a below 50% chance to work. I find myself repeating commands to the xbox one multiple times to get things to work. Not to mention saying "Watch Discovery" takes me to A&E channel or something not even remotely close.

Weirdest thing about the kinect is when i do bing search it shows every word on the screen accurately then changes the results to something i did not want. I owned two xbox 360s and i think three ps3's over the years. I cant help but to think that the PS3 is still the best buy right now. I commonly see them for $129 refurb 500gb slim models -- you have a ton of games, its a great blu-ray and netflix player... you dont need to pay sony just to stream netflix either.

I completely regret my xbox one purchase.
 
Jerome36 said:
Wow... Like a couple people have already pointed out, the 360 already had a very similar hardware configuration, with 512MB of shared DDR3 memory and 10MB of eDRAM for the GPU, in the form of a second, daughter die. When you take into account the 360 came out over EIGHT years ago, and a year before even the regular Wii (let alone the WiiU), your "comparison" holds no water.
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yeah and you can trace that right back to the game cube aka 2000- that would be 14 year old tech a full 6 years before Xbox 360. That embedded 3MB ultra fast frame buffer was a beast when it came to speed... so like I said, MS tried to pull a Nintendo (system on the cheap) without understanding how it would work..... and now we see the results pretty bad compared to the PS4...especially when you consider the price to performance ratio....

the game cube had inferior specs compared to a Xbox but it could hold it's own when it came down to graphics processing.... just look at Luigi's Mansion that game was LOADED with polygons all thanks to putting your money in the right spot (ultra fast SRAM as main memory)
 
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