Wireless options for new home?

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I am going to be moving in a few weeks and much of the home is finished. This means I cannot just run cables all over like I've been able to do at my current home.

That being said, my servers/network core will be housed together. However, my desktop will not be near them. Until I move in, there is not an easy way for me to see if I can run cable to my computer room.

With that being said, I am looking at wireless. Right now I am feeding my non-wired devices with a pair of unifi APs. I see they offer some AC units. It looks like I can pick up an Intel-based AC wifi card for about $50. I've also seen some powerline kits, but it seems these just suck.

I am looking for some ideas or suggestions here. I do quite a bit on my network from desktop to server(s), so speed IS important.

Idears?
 
sc0tty8 said:
I am going to be moving in a few weeks and much of the home is finished. This means I cannot just run cables all over like I've been able to do at my current home.

That being said, my servers/network core will be housed together. However, my desktop will not be near them. Until I move in, there is not an easy way for me to see if I can run cable to my computer room.

With that being said, I am looking at wireless. Right now I am feeding my non-wired devices with a pair of unifi APs. I see they offer some AC units. It looks like I can pick up an Intel-based AC wifi card for about $50. I've also seen some powerline kits, but it seems these just suck.

I am looking for some ideas or suggestions here. I do quite a bit on my network from desktop to server(s), so speed IS important.

Idears?
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Go powerline if at all possible. At least try it first. Many members have said they had good luck with the newer generation of them. The AC UniFi is substantially more expensive than the N units.
 
When there's a will there's a way. Can't you drill inside a closet or something and use wiremold? You'll still want to run wire for APs anyway.
 
wizdum said:
Go powerline if at all possible. At least try it first. Many members have said they had good luck with the newer generation of them. The AC UniFi is substantially more expensive than the N units.
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Any recommendations on companies?

Red Squirrel said:
When there's a will there's a way. Can't you drill inside a closet or something and use wiremold? You'll still want to run wire for APs anyway.
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I can get an AP in the living room area as the laundry room below master bedroom closet is open. I would do wiremold to the attic and then surface mount the WAP.

In the basement, the floor joists run north to south so I could put a WAP in the center part of the basement, or under the steps where my server/network stuff will be. With the joists running north/south, I cannot get the the east end of the basement cleanly. I don't want to wiremold my basement.
 
sc0tty8 said:
Any recommendations on companies?



I can get an AP in the living room area as the laundry room below master bedroom closet is open. I would do wiremold to the attic and then surface mount the WAP.

In the basement, the floor joists run north to south so I could put a WAP in the center part of the basement, or under the steps where my server/network stuff will be. With the joists running north/south, I cannot get the the east end of the basement cleanly. I don't want to wiremold my basement.
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Crown molding could work too, run everything in the top corners then install crown molding. The verticals can be done by putting holes at the bottom and top, which will be hidden by baseboards/crown molding. At least in theory.. never actually done this myself. I have a single story house so I just do it all from the basement. Never drywall a basement ceiling, it's shooting yourself in the foot. I actually took down the drywall when I moved in.
 
There is a chance we will be pulling much of the trim and ceiling out down the road, so don't want to add to this.
 
The IV gen powerline stuff will be announced in March.

Your order of preference should be.

Physical ethernet
MoCa gen II 270Mbps
Powerline 4th gen 1000Mbps+ not available until after march 2014
Powerline 3rd gen 600Mbps
Wireless N or AC


FYI...600Mbps powerline connected ideally gets you 90Mbps of usable throughput.
 
sc0tty8 said:
Any recommendations on companies?



I can get an AP in the living room area as the laundry room below master bedroom closet is open. I would do wiremold to the attic and then surface mount the WAP.

In the basement, the floor joists run north to south so I could put a WAP in the center part of the basement, or under the steps where my server/network stuff will be. With the joists running north/south, I cannot get the the east end of the basement cleanly. I don't want to wiremold my basement.
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powerline Zyxel 600Mbps adapters, the 1000+ Mbps adapters are due out shortly.
 
Any performance on the 4th gen powerline stuff?
 
A new home likely had cat5E cables run for phone jacks. Repurpose these for wired network. Just hope they aren't daisy chained.
 
There are no drops in this room. The ones that are ran are more than likely daisy chained and terminate outside at the phone box.

Again, as the title of the thread states, I am looking fore wireless options. I am more than capable of running cable, if there was an easy way to do so, I would not start a thread to inquire about wireless, instead would have asked "How can I hide this cable and run it to this room".

So again, wireless options as threat title states, please.
 
I personally would just get my hands dirty and find ways to run wire, may need to patch up drywall after. But for wireless, I'd look at unifi. You can leave it in the basement and it should do the whole house. Idealy you'd want to bring it higher though but you don't have to. I have one in my basement and it only starts to get weak at my driveway, and that's because the line of sight is going through the ground at that angle.
 
sc0tty8 said:
There are no drops in this room. The ones that are ran are more than likely daisy chained and terminate outside at the phone box.

Again, as the title of the thread states, I am looking fore wireless options. I am more than capable of running cable, if there was an easy way to do so, I would not start a thread to inquire about wireless, instead would have asked "How can I hide this cable and run it to this room".

So again, wireless options as threat title states, please.
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Not a wireless option, but if you have a cable coaxial line you could put in a MoCA adaptor. I did this since in my office since I couldn't use the coaxial that was there as a fish to replace it with cat5e (it runs along the outside of the house under the siding). 100Mbit usable bandwidth, not gigabut, but still plenty fast.
 
Grentz said:
Unifi Air Fiber


:)
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LOL. I have some spare M5's at work.....not airfiber though.

Red Squirrel said:
I personally would just get my hands dirty and find ways to run wire, may need to patch up drywall after. But for wireless, I'd look at unifi. You can leave it in the basement and it should do the whole house. Idealy you'd want to bring it higher though but you don't have to. I have one in my basement and it only starts to get weak at my driveway, and that's because the line of sight is going through the ground at that angle.
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Dude, I am not doing to move into my house and tear shit apart to put cable into the rooms. I am talking about 1 desktop here in a single room. The remainder of my gear is centralized. I have many other things I'd rather do. My rokus run off the wifi, laptop, off of the wifi, cellphone, wifi, tablets, wifi. So tell me what value there is in pulling cable thought the house for a single desktop? I am very capable of getting my hands dirty, however I am very logical at thinking things through and justifying if a project makes since.

The scope of the project is to provide bandwidth for a single machine wireless.

canna said:
Not a wireless option, but if you have a cable coaxial line you could put in a MoCA adaptor. I did this since in my office since I couldn't use the coaxial that was there as a fish to replace it with cat5e (it runs along the outside of the house under the siding). 100Mbit usable bandwidth, not gigabut, but still plenty fast.
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Dude, there are NO cable drops in this room PERIOD. The coax that is run, is run for the main floor, and will be used for TV.
 
The one UniFi AC that I've played with worked quite well. Still greatly depends on the materials in your home that will be between your AP and desktop. If you've got a fridge or tub between your AP and desktop, don't expect the signal to be all that great.

I've just moved into a 3 story townhome and experiencing the same kind of problems that you are. Unfortunately there isn't any way to run cabling without demo-ing too many walls and ceiings so I too shall be going with a mostly wireless setup. If you go with the UniFi AC, I'd love to hear how it is treating you.
 
With where I would place the AC unit, it would be through wood/sheet rock and a max of 20'.
 
Regarding powerline I switched from WDS over G to some cheapo Trendnet 500 AV powerlines on sale at newegg and I get about 7-8MB/s transfer speeds which is better than the 2-3 I was getting plus no outages whenever someone uses the microwave. <--- really really annoying BTW. Mine are on different circuits and basically each one is as far a power line run as there is from the breaker.

I really just wanted it to be more reliable than the wifi which it is. I've had to reset them twice since I got them in september last year which is is annoying but it takes like 10 seconds for them to come back up which is a hell of a lot faster than any wifi unit.
 
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