Google Exploring New Cities For Google Fiber

sfsuphysics said:
Well if you look at the list of California cities it's all in the Silicon Valley area, so if anything it makes a little more sense considering their HQ is there.
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The area around Stanford University (Palo Alto, CA) already has Google Fiber run to most houses. This was their test-bed before deploying to other cities.

The other thing that people forget is pretty simple: Most cities have "Cable Charters" with one provider (Comcrap, Time Warner, Cox, Charter, ect ect...) that don't allow competition with other providers. Most of the cities own their own fiber, they just need a company like Google to come in and better manage it...
 
So close in the two potential locations in NC. I'm nearly dead in the middle of them both.
 
snowcat said:
I have 45 Mbps speed through UVerse in Nashville. So I wouldn't call it junk by any means.
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Depends on one's perspective. If you are used to GigE connectivity, 45Mb/s is kind of a joke. For the majority of US homes though, 45Mb/s is probably above average. But that is purely talking throughput. If you incorporate the underlying technology behind these connections, then it's a different story. Uverse service is all interleaved which I believe is essentially re-assembly of the TCP packets so that you do not get packets out of order. The plus side for this is supposedly it is very beneficial for their TV service quality. The downside is it is a much costlier operation and induces latency. So comparatively, latency to a server via fiber would net you maybe 5ms, but the same latency via UVerse would be 30ms. Again, depends on what you use the connection for.. for most people, they would never even notice this difference.
 
Oh my god, is Google finally going to try to bring the Silicon Valley into the modern era of home internet?

Let me take this opportunity to sincerely hope that Comcast fucks off forever.
 
On the bright side, the number of Google Fiber cities essentially went up ten-fold. I see that as a sign of hope that gigabit internet will be reaching the masses sooner.
 
PeaKr said:
Dunno why they chose Phoenix, Tempe is way more happening, maybe location and growth potential.
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Phoenix, Tempe and Mesa are ALL selected if they come here. As for Phoenix, its a fiber hub, and tons of dark fiber laid across the metro area.
 
I wished Google would just buy Comcast, and turn that company around, since Comcast has no plans whatsoever to upgrade to fiber even the future.
But then again, even though Google might have the capital to aquire CC, CC would probably prove to be too big a burden on Google, and Google might end up getting a big indigestion and crap out.
 
BassDX said:
On the bright side, the number of Google Fiber cities essentially went up ten-fold. I see that as a sign of hope that gigabit internet will be reaching the masses sooner.
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Yeah, instead of 75 years, you will only have to wait 50.:rolleyes:

Comcast will still be a big player in the broadband business. And Comcast has no plans to upgrade to optic fiber. AND they recently acquired Time Warner.
Chances are, things are going to stay as they are for a loooooooong time.
 
///AMG said:
Lol Houston please? All I have is comcast or verizon's craptastic 1.5/.7 $50 dsl.
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I believe all the crazies in Houston would probably chew on the cables resulting in unsustainably high maintenance costs. I'm surprised they're looking at San Antonia for the same reason. No, if they want to expand in Texas they should try some place safer and saner, such as the blissful Utopian metropolis of Dallas/Fort Worth.
 
Shotglass01 said:
STFU! :D

Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix!

Who cares about Tempe. :p
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What about Chandler.... That should be first on the list! :D
 
They're going for the cities where politicians haven't TOTALLY sold their whore asses to TW, ATT and Comcast...:cool: Slim pickings....:(
 
I love being literally right between Nashville/Atlanta and near the fastest internet in the US (Chattanooga TN) yet too far away to get ANY of them :(.

All I have is comcast or dsl, that's it, so it's not really a choice.
 
aShrubbery! said:
I wished Google would just buy Comcast, and turn that company around, since Comcast has no plans whatsoever to upgrade to fiber even the future.
But then again, even though Google might have the capital to aquire CC, CC would probably prove to be too big a burden on Google, and Google might end up getting a big indigestion and crap out.
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It's easier to shoot a feral pig than adopt it.
 
HAHA. So they are thinking of Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, Mountain View, Palo Alto, and San Jose. The first 4 are like the heart of Silicon Valley. Pretty much every major Tech company is headquartered in those 4 cities.
 
sjankech said:
HAHA. So they are thinking of Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, Mountain View, Palo Alto, and San Jose. The first 4 are like the heart of Silicon Valley. Pretty much every major Tech company is headquartered in those 4 cities.
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Yeah, I'm kind of surprised Mountain View wasn't the FIRST city they rolled out in...
 
Kelter said:
Depends on one's perspective. If you are used to GigE connectivity, 45Mb/s is kind of a joke. For the majority of US homes though, 45Mb/s is probably above average. But that is purely talking throughput. If you incorporate the underlying technology behind these connections, then it's a different story. Uverse service is all interleaved which I believe is essentially re-assembly of the TCP packets so that you do not get packets out of order. The plus side for this is supposedly it is very beneficial for their TV service quality. The downside is it is a much costlier operation and induces latency. So comparatively, latency to a server via fiber would net you maybe 5ms, but the same latency via UVerse would be 30ms. Again, depends on what you use the connection for.. for most people, they would never even notice this difference.
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That was the politest way I have ever seen anyone hand someone their ass on the internet. Thank you.
 
sjankech said:
HAHA. So they are thinking of Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, Mountain View, Palo Alto, and San Jose. The first 4 are like the heart of Silicon Valley. Pretty much every major Tech company is headquartered in those 4 cities.
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So is San Jose, unless you don't think Cisco, eBay, Adobe, Xilinx, Netgear, IDT...etc don't count.
 
///AMG said:
Lol Houston please? All I have is comcast or verizon's craptastic 1.5/.7 $50 dsl.
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I wish they did Houston. Once I finally leave the bay area does it get Fiber. Then again they would NEVER roll it out to where I lived.
 
Zarathustra[H];1040638807 said:
That being said, if they really want to start scaring the big ISP's and driving market change, maybe they SHOULD start hitting them where it hurts.
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I don't know about that. A lot of companies fail trying to do such. One of the reasons walmart is the success it is was because they avoided the main population centers. They ate the market up all around in the mid sized towns where it was easy to win and where having walmart was a big advantage. They eventually grow so big they out compete everyone.

If you go into a big city where there are already multiple options then the competitors will just drop their prices. This is part of why FIOS failed. it seemed like a great idea till Comcast did minor updates gave everyone 50 down and cut the prices. All of a sudden FIOS didn't seem that great to normal people only tech savvy people appreciated it.

If you go into some place with lets say just a single cable provider and maybe a local one that cant afford to take loses for a while you can obliterate the competition and get high density subscriptions.
 
I don't think it's a coincidence that they're looking to vastly expand Google Fiber in the midst of the pending Comcast and Time Warner merger. For fear of jeopardizing it, those companies aren't as likely to offer Google as much interference as they would have otherwise.
 
I think the only alarming thing is that people are willing to let Google spy on them and data collect pretty much everything they do because they'll be able to control the end connection to a home just to get the pretty much meaningless higher bandwidth numeric value. It's sorta like leaping into the candy van for the lollipop.

Yeah other ISPs are pretty lame/awful/money grubbing, but of all the companies on the planet Google is probably the most sinister because of their reach and ability to collect and mine data from your home computer via ads and their browser, from hanging off the faces of countless thousands of mindless Glass wearing drones, from deep in your pants via your phone, and now at the point of entry to your desktop. And so many people are so very eager to throw themselves into it by begging them to come to their city to take over more. Only governments should know where and when I pee, darn it! :(
 
Raleigh! RD-F'n-U! Tech and school are huge in the triangle... you know, Research Triangle Park?!
 
No Dallas? come on google, come big market already! Don't make me move to Austin just to get away from TWC and ATT.
 
CreepyUncleGoogle said:
I think the only alarming thing is that people are willing to let Google spy on them and data collect pretty much everything they do because they'll be able to control the end connection to a home just to get the pretty much meaningless higher bandwidth numeric value. It's sorta like leaping into the candy van for the lollipop.

Yeah other ISPs are pretty lame/awful/money grubbing, but of all the companies on the planet Google is probably the most sinister because of their reach and ability to collect and mine data from your home computer via ads and their browser, from hanging off the faces of countless thousands of mindless Glass wearing drones, from deep in your pants via your phone, and now at the point of entry to your desktop. And so many people are so very eager to throw themselves into it by begging them to come to their city to take over more. Only governments should know where and when I pee, darn it! :(
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totally worth it... i'm a-ok with them monetizing information about me if it means subsidizing my internet connection
 
Kelter said:
I was about to say. San Jose is the heart of Silicon Valley. Half of Google employees probably live in San Jose, and another third in the surrounding cities being that Google is headquartered in Mountain View. Of all places, San Jose, and really the majority of the Bay Area, makes the most sense to deploy at.
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I'm hoping since Comcast just put fiber into our park, that Google will be able to use the same conduit that was installed, since it took lord knows how long to get Comcast to start installing it (they haven't finished yet, although half the park has apparently got it up and running).
 
If they are installing it for free, I'm sure the land owners would go for it anyway, although they will probably be dicks about it.
 
Aluisious said:
So is San Jose, unless you don't think Cisco, eBay, Adobe, Xilinx, Netgear, IDT...etc don't count.
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Lol.. I was about to say the same thing. Why would you exclude San Jose when it probably has the most large tech companies headquartered there? Ever drive down First St?

I do find it funny that Cupertino isn't on the list... In Silicon Valley, that is really the only other major city they missed.. oh Apple.. why can't you play nice with anyone else.. lol.
 
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