Very excited about Surface Pro 2

Now they just need to replace the IPS screen with an OLED one.

That'd be a terrible decision. The battery life advantage would be negligible (OLED only really saves energy when there's a lot of black on screen), it'd still be a thick device, and you'd risk dealing with inaccurate colors and poor outdoor visibility. That and OLED screens at tablet sizes are still quite expensive.

IPS is color-accurate (ideal for pros) and easier to see outside. There's no reason to switch up until there's a clear advantage.
 
Whew, it's a good thing that nobody cares about black levels and perfect panel uniformity.
 
Whew, it's a good thing that nobody cares about black levels and perfect panel uniformity.

Of all the people I've met you really are the only one who has such problem with these complaints on tablets. I had to go look really hard to find the imperfect panel uniformity on my tablets and even then the only way to notice it was in such an artificial and contrived scenario it wasn't worth it to quibble over.
 
Well.. then I think I should thank my damn client for dragging ass on testing, feature creep, and pushing back when I get paid... you know.. so I can get the sweet sweet hardware upgrade tweaks!

Though.. it does sound moderately more impressive when extremetech phrases it:

In this case, that 100-point differential hides a lot of changes. The Core i5-4200U is a 1.6GHz base and 2.6GHz Turbo chip, while the Core i5-4300U runs at 1.9GHz base and 2.9GHz Turbo — an increase of 19% at the low end and a still significant 11.5% in Turbo mode. The chip also clocks its GPU 100MHz higher, which should deliver an improvement of 5-7% in gaming applications (clock rate improvements rarely scale linearly).

The Core i5-4300U also supports advanced virtualization functions like Intel’s vPro and VT-d. It includes support for Haswell’s transaction synchronization extensions (TSX), where the Core i5-4200U lacked it. It’s covered by Intel’s Stable Platform Program, which means the chip manufacturer guarantees drivers and support for 15 months. Intel’s Smart Response Technology is also integrated into the Core i5-4300U, though this is less useful since the Surface Pro 2 doesn’t support any form of additional storage. Trusted Execution Technology is also integrated into the new chip, though this typically requires a hardware module integrated into the motherboard and Microsoft has not included such to the best of our knowledge.
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...ace-pro-2-gets-significant-secret-cpu-upgrade
 
That frequency boost is surprisingly significant.
 
I'm on call every weekend for work (IT), and I can tell you that this tablet + VMWare View Client is super sexy. Now I don't have to lug my work laptop around town when I just need to check on a server or reset someones password in AD every few hours..I just log into my VDI client, and VMWare view automatically scales the resolution to the tablet's. When I'm back at home with a dual monitor setup, I log into my VDI client with VMWare View on my desktop and it automatically scales my VDI client display back to my dual monitor setup. Its sick!

Also OneNote is ridiculously awesome with this. My dream of a paperless office no longer requires an hour of scanning documents and organizing them page by page.

But I agree with everyone else, if you don't have a particular use for a Windows tablet, don't buy one...lol

+1

I got mine specifically for when I have a duty rotation. Open up my VPN connection and I have full access to all of my servers, vsphere and every client in the enterprise. All my tools I use are on here, no work arounds or compromises. AT work, it sits on my desk doing personal stuff, and when I leave my desk it comes with me for onsite issues. Love it. When the 3's show up, I will get a used 2 with more RAM.
 
I just bought a Surface Pro 2 after I read that the battery life was improved from the firmware update. The SP2 and my Vaio Duo 13 are quite similar in battery life now. I just want the Power cover and I am good to go lol. When is the damn power cover coming...
 
How warm do your screens get? Mine gets noticeably warm even with only Word open... just wondering if that's common.
 
Does anyone get annoyed by the short power cable that came with the SP2? I had to use an old Playstation cable to make it longer. Also last night for some reason my volume buttons became the button for voice dictation lol, had to restart to make it volume buttons again.
 
I hope the Surface Pro 3 will have a larger option and more resolution

-16:10 Aspect Ratio
-10.0" with 2560x1600 (301 dpi)
-12.5" with 3200x2000 (301 dpi)
 
I hope the Surface Pro 3 will have a larger option and more resolution

-16:10 Aspect Ratio
-10.0" with 2560x1600 (301 dpi)
-12.5" with 3200x2000 (301 dpi)

Yeah right. 16:10? That will never happen. EVER. As much as I would love that, 1080P is what gives everybody a boner for some reason.
 
Yeah right. 16:10? That will never happen. EVER. As much as I would love that, 1080P is what gives everybody a boner for some reason.

Awww I guess I'll conceit defeat :(

2560x1440 for 10"
3200x1800 for 12.5"

My surface is my daily driver, but I need a bigger screen and more resolution.
 
My surface is my daily driver, but I need a bigger screen and more resolution.

Do you already have scaling set down to 100%? 'Cuz that's some tiny stuff on an 11" screen. If you don't, you're not really utilizing 1080p anyway. I can't really fathom going higher density than 1080p on 11".
 
I just got one of these, and came across these touch and type cover specific hotkeys which I thought were really useful:

Code:
Fn + Caps: Locks F1-F12 into being function keys. 
Fn + <spacebar>: Print Screen
Fn + <spacebar> + Alt: Print Screen for the in-focus App only
Fn + Del: Brightness Up
Fn + Backspace: Brightness Down
Fn + <left>: Home
Fn + <right>: End
Fn + <up>: Page Up
Fn + <down>: Page Down
 
Can ssd in surface pro 1 or 2 be replaced by user ? And do you lose warranty by doing it ?
 
It's technically possible but very impractical.

You'll lose the warranty.

The Surface Pros can take a microSD Card (which go up to 128gb now). They also have a full size USB 3.0 port (USB drive, external HD). The next Windows 8.1 update is also expected to possibly reduce install footprint by a few GB.
 
I just picked up my sp2 and everything is running perfectly. However I've noticed that the bottom right corner where the display meets the body is slightly raised above the edge of the body. The rest of the display including the other 3 corners are perfectly flush with the body.

Is this normal and a design flaw or should I get exchange for another one.

It's the bottom left corner when I'm looking at the sp2 head one with the windows button on the bottom.

Here are some pics I took. One is the right (flush corner) and the other being the left (raised corner)

http://s36.photobucket.com/user/Fungus007/library/?view=recent&page=1
 
Mine is pretty much flush all the way around. There is some extremely minor variation, but nothing's perfect.

Seriously though, give it a smoosh, once the display and digitizer cables are plugged in the screen is just pressed into the adhesive. Any lack of uniformity is likely a result of uneven application force.
 
But considering that the other 3 corner are flush, it might actually be either the glass that's not flat or the assembly below it, either that or the metal casing.

II mean, if all the corner are flush, shouldn't the last corner be as well.
 
But considering that the other 3 corner are flush, it might actually be either the glass that's not flat or the assembly below it, either that or the metal casing.

II mean, if all the corner are flush, shouldn't the last corner be as well.

No.
The glass and casing are manufactured to exacting tolerances by computer controlled industrial equipment. The casing is produced with MS's VaporMg vapor deposition process and the glass is likely laser cut.
The industrial strength adhesive on the other hand is more difficult to work with. One wrong touch and readjustment by the child laborer assembling your Surface Pro and now the adhesive layer is no longer totally uniform...
 
No.
The glass and casing are manufactured to exacting tolerances by computer controlled industrial equipment. The casing is produced with MS's VaporMg vapor deposition process and the glass is likely laser cut.
The industrial strength adhesive on the other hand is more difficult to work with. One wrong touch and readjustment by the child laborer assembling your Surface Pro and now the adhesive layer is no longer totally uniform...

I would be shocked as hell if they don't at least have a fixture for assembling the two halves. Unless they're being pulled out before the adhesive is set or something, that's pretty odd that it would be noticeably off.
 
I would be shocked as hell if they don't at least have a fixture for assembling the two halves. Unless they're being pulled out before the adhesive is set or something, that's pretty odd that it would be noticeably off.

That's part of the problem, I'm not sure how noticeably off it is from the pictures. The picture of the raised corner isn't in focus like the flush corner picture. My SP2 screen is very slightly raised above the casing. 3 corners I can just feel it, but at the power button corner I can snag my fingernail on the raised edge if I try (sometimes).
 
Anyone tried the SP2 with windows 10? any trouble? Want to know before I upgrade... can't risk stuff not working right in the middle of taking notes in class.
 
Anyone tried the SP2 with windows 10? any trouble? Want to know before I upgrade... can't risk stuff not working right in the middle of taking notes in class.

Curious about this as well, I didn't want to be the guinea pig.
 
I would wait then, give it a few weeks for the major bugs to be ironed out. Windows 8.1 works very well on tablets anyway. Windows 10 is more of a god send for desktop/laptops users.
 
still waiting on word with SP2 on win10.

also: would i be able to install programs/games on something like this and use it without slowdowns?

http://www.amazon.com/PNY-Elite-Per...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00WWBCS1Y

because SP2's 128GB is starting to be too little for me.

There are no Service Packs or analogues. The whole to Windows as a service means updates and features will be spread out. That said the first smaller wave of stuff is set for November.
 
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still waiting on word with SP2 on win10.

also: would i be able to install programs/games on something like this and use it without slowdowns?

http://www.amazon.com/PNY-Elite-Per...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00WWBCS1Y

because SP2's 128GB is starting to be too little for me.

Didn't know there were any issues with 10 on the SP3. So far 10 has installed fine on everything I've tried, even the cheapo HP 7 Stream which is humming along ok. As for using SD cards, Windows 10 is supposed to eventually support the installation of apps, including desktop apps on SD. Desktop apps can generally be installed on them manually but it can be iffy. I tried installing Steam on an SD card once and that wasn't a great idea. I set my data folders to default to SD storage and that's worked well. Some apps don't like that though. OneNote desktop for instance doesn't allow OneNote notebooks to be stored on removable storage but that can be worked around by creating a VHD. Creating VHDs is a general workaround for things that don't like to be installed on removable storage.
 
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Didn't know there were any issues with 10 on the SP3. So far 10 has installed fine on everything I've tried, even the cheapo HP 7 Stream which is humming along ok. As for using SD cards, Windows 10 is supposed to eventually support the installation of apps, including desktop apps on SD. Desktop apps can generally be installed on them manually but it can be iffy. I tried installing Steam on an SD card once and that wasn't a great idea. I set my data folders to default to SD storage and that's worked well. Some apps don't like that though. OneNote desktop for instance doesn't allow OneNote notebooks to be stored on removable storage but that can be worked around by creating a VHD. Creating VHDs is a general workaround for things that don't like to be installed on removable storage.

This. Desktop apps will launch from SD cards with no problems so long as the application was installed to that card with that system and the drive letter hasn't changed. I have a Sandisk card with similar stats and apps work fine, but aren't terribly quick. But modern apps no longer can be installed to an SD card.
 
Windows 10 has ruined my SP2.
Power button doesn't work right, at least not like it did. I tried having it make it sleep. I tried the turn display off setting. I've set my sleep preferences.
Won't sleep. Battery life is for shit. I guess because it doesn't sleep right. I used to be able to leave my SP2 on the coffee table and come back 8 hours later and have within a few percent of what I left it with. Now, it is dead every time and the only reason it is asleep, or turned off, is because it broke the 7% batter life left and it shuts itself down.
The browser is a huge step backwards. No swiping forward and backward. Fucking sucks donkey dicks.
It lags now like the internet is slow but when I go to my other computers to see if they are lagging too they are brisk and snappy. Like my SP2 used to be.

DO NOT do Win10 on any Surface Pro is my recommendation.
 
Sounds like it's not going into hybrid sleep which it's supposed to do after a few hours while in Instago sleep, if that's what they're still calling it. Not having that problem on my Surface Pro 3 or Surface 3.

Overall battery life feels about the same but Edge does seem to eat up more CPU over time until it's restarted. I do miss elements of modern IE 11 for tablet use. Edge is very much like Chrome and Safari on tables now with none of the cooler factors of modern IE 11 left like the finger swipes. I have no idea way they took those out. But Edge does seem a bit faster to me on all of my tablets and modern IE 11 didn't support extensions or COM controls either.

There was an article yesterday by James Kendrick about Windows 10 on the Surface 3 and disabling tablet mode even while using it as a tablet:http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-on-surface-3-three-reasons-to-disable-tablet-mode/. I actually agree with much of what he's saying here. The desktop in 10 with modern apps in a window on larger screen tablets is surprisingly touch friendly and pretty flexible it not particularly elegant. It's not such much so on smaller screens but that's what conventional wisdom would predict.

There are a few other things that I do kind of miss in 10 from 8.1. The ability to open the camera from the lock screen and launch modern OneNote from the device even while in sleep. But the windowed modern apps on the desktop and that working well with touch is making up more than the difference of the things that I miss.
 
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