Twitter Reports $645 Million Loss For 2013

choppedliver said:
Boy you really need to work on your social skills,
learn not to read wayyyyyyy to much into things,
Don't be a dick just because you are behind a computer.
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You also need to work on your reading comprehension and/or skin thickness.
 
choppedliver said:
Boy you really need to work on your social skills,
learn not to read wayyyyyyy to much into things,
Don't be a dick just because you are behind a computer.
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You already got delusions of grandeur? Sorry, my mistake. :)
 
choppedliver said:
Boy you really need to work on your social skills,
learn not to read wayyyyyyy to much into things,
Don't be a dick just because you are behind a computer.
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For what it's worth, those comments weren't a dig at you, choppedliver, but a compliment.

Skripka was implying that you don't "get" Twitter because you're not narcissistic enough or have the delusions of self-importance that the vast majority of Tweeters do.

It was sarcasm, and he/she was taking your side. :)
 
Red Squirrel said:
:rolleyes:

Have you seen twitter, it's very basic. The "scale" is not much compared to other sites. It does not take much to run it compared to big sites like Facebook, or big game servers, or heck, even news sites like CNN. Twitter is probably the most simple popular site out there. I can't seem to find the link, but I do recall reading an article explaining just how small twitter really is, it was actually kind of amazing as it's easy to immediately think a popular site is huge, but given the nature of twitter (microblogging) it does not really have to process that much data. There is not really anything special about it compared to other sites on the internet. 100's of millions is just absurd, and that's losses, who knows what their actual cost is.
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I'm commenting on how you think you can run this from your basement.

It's hard for me to respond to you because I don't know what you know about hosting websites... The naivety of that comment was substantial.
It's not the raw tweet data, it's the query data. 500 million tweets a day (from there IPO Report) is about 70GB if each tweet were allots 140 characters(140Bytes) whether full or not. However, each tweet usually contains extension to other accounts being @'ed, compressed hyperlinks and pictures. There are tons of pictures on twitter, albeit compressed. We also haven't accounted for profile data. Each account has themes of some sort that are constantly changed often. Twitter also owns and operated Vine a short video hosting (gif type thing) for there users to use. So 70GB is not even possible to be low number per day.
Twitter has around 105 million active users a day. They keep there monthly active users (240 million Users) in RAM It's unclear how many posts they keep in ram, but it take a lot scrolling before you have to wait for query. Lets say a 100 million of those users have 100 tweets of nothing but raw 140 character text, no pictures and no profile data. That's 1.4 TeraBytes of just raw text in RAM. Twitter has to be run out of ram or it would be unusable because it would be slow.

Now the query processing power comes into play When BBCWorld makes a tweet, Twitter pushes that tweet to the feed of its followers. BBCWorld has about 5.5 million followers. When it tweets there is a check to see which of it's followers are actively online and then pushes it to the top of it's feed within seconds. That's just one user, it's doing this query 100,000 times a second for each tweet that is sent out. Imagine the query when youtube tweets (40million followers).

Twitter also keeps tracks of trends with the #. The amount of queries to compile lists of tweets for each # is immense. They will also trend words that aren't preceded by a hashtag. So each tweet is analyzed and "sorted."

While a good chunk of twitter is done through lean API's to applications, the bulk of twitter is is still view through a web browser. Let's say half of there daily users use the browser version of the site. On top of the feed data of all it's followers, it also has to serve the website template and various java scripts/RubyOnRails client side code that keeps the feed updating.

Twitter is an impressive technological marvel that appears childishly simple. That is it's point though.

Twitter tries to bring in revenue from companies, you can pay twitter to promote tweets that show up in feeds even if you don't follow that company. So internet advertising, but it's simply not enough. to make money, Twitter has never once been profitable, They have 2000+ employees and have eaten up over billions in Venture capitol money before it's IPO.
 
Twitter is handy for college kids to broadcast to all their friends where the next kegger is taking place. That and bitch about homework, running out of food and other minor issues.
 
ep0x73 said:
Twitter is handy for college kids to broadcast to all their friends where the next kegger is taking place. That and bitch about homework, running out of food and other minor issues.
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wow, Egyptian students really knew how to throw a party, didn't they?
 
Azhar said:
wow, Egyptian students really knew how to throw a party, didn't they?
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What part of that story mentions Egyptians?
Twitter is US based and college kids DO use it to broadcast where the party is.
 
Twitter is like a lightweight facebook without all the tweens and people looking for attention. Say I want to post a picture of my food; well on facebook I'm actually doing it to get people to respond and tell me how awesome I must be or that they wish they were there with me, or to just get a like so I feel special amongst my 325 "friends". On twitter I would do this because I am a chef, dont want any responses at all, but actually made something cool and thought someone might want to actually see it and learn from it.

There's just something different about twitter users from facebook users. Facebook users are like the scum of the earth, twitter users are a level above scum, like pond scum.
 
ep0x73 said:
What part of that story mentions Egyptians?
Twitter is US based and college kids DO use it to broadcast where the party is.
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I was being sarcastic. Twitter was the tool of trade during the Arab Spring uprisings.
 
McFry said:
There's just something different about twitter users from facebook users. Facebook users are like the scum of the earth, twitter users are a level above scum, like pond scum.
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Yep. I'm with you. But have you ever heard Patton Oswald's tweets about Moby Dick and stuff? It's more fun to listen to him talk about the tweets than his tweets actually are, but that dude is seriously funny. It's kind of neat trying to put something really meaningful into a format that only allows such and such number of characters. Almost like a Haiku but not quite... nope... nevermind. pond scum. :rolleyes:
 
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