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How many millions did it take to build the HealthCare.gov site, only to have some guy hack it in four minutes? Well that was money well spent. :rolleyes:

The man who appeared before Congress last week to explain the security pitfalls of HealthCare.gov took to Fox News on Sunday to explain just how easy it was to penetrate the website. Chris Wallace that gaining access to 70,000 personal records of Obamacare enrollees via HealthCare.gov took about 4 minutes and required nothing more than a standard browser.
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and it will keep getting cracked and hacked and wacked till the day it dies.
 
Bwahahahahaha.....*choke* ahahahahaha.

Of course the "Affordable Health Act" or "Obama Care" or whatever it is this week was only the sacrificial lamb to further push the agenda of a Government that is so out of touch with the rest of the world that they might as well be on Pluto.
 
This is what happens when you give the contract to an non IT company just because they are your friends.
 
Another in the long list of failures for the Obama Administration. He makes Carter look good.
 
Government will always be broken since it's another form of welfare that takes automatic handouts from taxpayers. Since they're guaranteed a paycheck there's no sense of urgency along with lack of competitiveness to maintain employment so the results will always be mediocre at best.
 
Thats downright scary...but I'm honestly not that surprised
 
wait till Anonymous or LoLSec or one of those groups gets in, if they haven't already....
 
Krenum said:
Bwahahahahaha.....*choke* ahahahahaha.

Of course the "Affordable Health Act" or "Obama Care" or whatever it is this week was only the sacrificial lamb to further push the agenda of a Government that is so out of touch with the rest of the world that they might as well be on Pluto.
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I know, right? All the highest rated countries in the world provide single payer coverage for all of their citizens payed for with higher taxes. I'm assuming that is what you were referring to.
 
How is this surprising when it takes us 20 years to get a fighter jet into service even after dumbing down the requirements several times? To the point where they are out performed by the planes they are supposed to be replacing at more than twice the cost. Though don't worry I'm sure just a few more years and several hundred more billion dollars and the F-22 and F-35 might be able to fly in the rain!
 
MH Knights said:
How is this surprising when it takes us 20 years to get a fighter jet into service even after dumbing down the requirements several times? To the point where they are out performed by the planes they are supposed to be replacing at more than twice the cost. Though don't worry I'm sure just a few more years and several hundred more billion dollars and the F-22 and F-35 might be able to fly in the rain!
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I'm going to guess you don't work in the aviation industry.......
 
sfsuphysics said:
Considering every year at PWN2OWN someone hacks/hijacks the latest web browsers or operating systems in no time flat, not really.
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I might be wrong, but when it comes to OSs don't they normally have to wait till they can interact with the computer and find some opening through some other program and not the OS itself to get into it?
 
Clearly... a fiasco.
But at least it was an attempt. The alternative from the Right would be 'more of the same crap.'
'Let the private sector take care of it', they say. Well, that's been the law of the land for far too long. And we know it didn't get anywhere. You couldn't either afford it, or if did bought those el cheapo plans, your deductibles would be so high, you might as well not have it. And all those pre-existing conditions? Don't get me started on that.
Considering how people in the US like to shop for a good bargain, and love to get a good deal, they sure as heck aren't getting their money's worth, as they've been paying far to much, for much less in comparison to other Western countries.
The US has the best treatments, but has a 3rd world delivery system.
In the end, the best medical treatments are worth sh!t, if you can't have afford them.
 
CorruptedOne said:
I know, right? All the highest rated countries in the world provide single payer coverage for all of their citizens payed for with higher taxes. I'm assuming that is what you were referring to.
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But that isn't what we got. Oh I'm sorry is that what you think we got?
 
aShrubbery! said:
Clearly... a fiasco.
But at least it was an attempt. The alternative from the Right would be 'more of the same crap.'
'Let the private sector take care of it', they say. Well, that's been the law of the land for far too long. And we know it didn't get anywhere. You couldn't either afford it, or if did bought those el cheapo plans, your deductibles would be so high, you might as well not have it. And all those pre-existing conditions? Don't get me started on that.
Considering how people in the US like to shop for a good bargain, and love to get a good deal, they sure as heck aren't getting their money's worth, as they've been paying far to much, for much less in comparison to other Western countries.
The US has the best treatments, but has a 3rd world delivery system.
In the end, the best medical treatments are worth sh!t, if you can't have afford them.
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Actually we don't even have the best treatments... unless you are counting "special" hospitals like the Mayo clinic or others in the upper echelon of specialty hospitals that 95% of the population will never set foot in because their insurance won't cover it and they could never afford it on their own.

Health care quality wise, we are usually ranked right around #20 in the world. Same ballpark rankings with education and everything else that matters...

To put that in perspective, many of the former Soviet countries in Eastern Europe now outrank us, as do countries in Asia that only decades ago didn't even have electricity to much of their countries.

While the rest of the first world continues to advance (bringing along much of the former third wold with it) we continue to stagnate, and even backslide in many areas... And you only need to look at the ignorance in the posting of many users on this forum to see part of the reasons why...
 
I say the guy is lying through his teeth. There is no way in hell you can just "browse" over and access 70,000 patient records.

Lots of "talk" and no proof, no simple demonstration ... redacted, recorded, AFTER allowing them to plug the alleged flaw. Nope none of that, just some shitheads word for it.

Every noodlehead invested in the ideology of Obamacare = Bad then runs with it. Bunch of simps.
 
aShrubbery! said:
Clearly... a fiasco.
But at least it was an attempt. The alternative from the Right would be 'more of the same crap.'
'Let the private sector take care of it', they say. Well, that's been the law of the land for far too long. And we know it didn't get anywhere. You couldn't either afford it, or if did bought those el cheapo plans, your deductibles would be so high, you might as well not have it. And all those pre-existing conditions? Don't get me started on that.
Considering how people in the US like to shop for a good bargain, and love to get a good deal, they sure as heck aren't getting their money's worth, as they've been paying far to much, for much less in comparison to other Western countries.
The US has the best treatments, but has a 3rd world delivery system.
In the end, the best medical treatments are worth sh!t, if you can't have afford them.
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So its much better to pay high premiums and have high deductibles under Obamacare?
 
Climber said:
But that isn't what we got. Oh I'm sorry is that what you think we got?
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This is the sad thing, kinda sends the message that if you want something done right, don't do it here. How come we have such a hard time getting anything like this done right when the rest of the world has tackled this successfully generations ago?

I think the problem is that Obama's plan is so half-assed from what it should've been that it only benefits insurance providers, the primary source of this whole mess to begin with.
 
bpmurrGT said:
So its much better to pay high premiums and have high deductibles under Obamacare?
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The costs were gonna go up either way, this is barely placing road bumps in front of the problem of spiraling healthcare costs.

The main reason this sort of thing was gaining traction now is because the companies that were against it in the past are now for it and lobbied to get something done to slow things down.

Take GM for example, I recall them estimating that our abysmal healthcare system adds around ~$1500 to the cost of cars they manufacture here, that's a big competitive disadvantage, enough of a problem for them to push for changes to slow things down.

That said, this was such a half-assed attempt at tackling the problem sadly.
 
aShrubbery! said:
Clearly... a fiasco.
But at least it was an attempt. The alternative from the Right would be 'more of the same crap.'
'Let the private sector take care of it', they say. Well, that's been the law of the land for far too long. And we know it didn't get anywhere. You couldn't either afford it, or if did bought those el cheapo plans, your deductibles would be so high, you might as well not have it. And all those pre-existing conditions? Don't get me started on that.
Considering how people in the US like to shop for a good bargain, and love to get a good deal, they sure as heck aren't getting their money's worth, as they've been paying far to much, for much less in comparison to other Western countries.
The US has the best treatments, but has a 3rd world delivery system.
In the end, the best medical treatments are worth sh!t, if you can't have afford them.
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This definitely fixes the part where people 'may as well not have' coverage. (lol logic)
 
Does not surprise me one bit. I think I even said it at one point (I can't remember where so I can't quote it, wish I could!) that it would not surprise me if it gets hacked very easily. CGI is not a coding company, they're a blow job company, they give some exec guy a blow job so that they get a contract to supposedly code something. It wont work, but the company wont really care because of whatever other benefits are involved. Now they're locked in, because these systems are coded in a very specific way that makes it very hard to change anything.

They need to just restart the whole thing from scratch if they want something that actually works.
 
Wierdo said:
This is the sad thing, kinda sends the message that if you want something done right, don't do it here. How come we have such a hard time getting anything like this done right when the rest of the world has tackled this successfully generations ago?

I think the problem is that Obama's plan is so half-assed from what it should've been that it only benefits insurance providers, the primary source of this whole mess to begin with.
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Exactly. This didn't remotely begin to curb rampant medical corruption, if anything it makes it worse. Half assed plan that wasn't thought through. Short term answer to a long term problem and those never work, if anything they've historically made things worse.
 
Wierdo said:
This is the sad thing, kinda sends the message that if you want something done right, don't do it here. How come we have such a hard time getting anything like this done right when the rest of the world has tackled this successfully generations ago?

I think the problem is that Obama's plan is so half-assed from what it should've been that it only benefits insurance providers, the primary source of this whole mess to begin with.
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Not even close, there really aren't any countries that have successfully implemented universal healthcare. The countries that come the closest to universal health care have the taxes to go with it, are much much much smaller populations, don't have the populations issues we have (a.k.a. illegals, moochers, general wastes fo space), etc...Just about every country with universal health care has problems, the programs requiring more and more money being one of them.
 
xX_Jack_Carver_Xx said:
I say the guy is lying through his teeth. There is no way in hell you can just "browse" over and access 70,000 patient records.

Lots of "talk" and no proof, no simple demonstration ... redacted, recorded, AFTER allowing them to plug the alleged flaw. Nope none of that, just some shitheads word for it.

Every noodlehead invested in the ideology of Obamacare = Bad then runs with it. Bunch of simps.
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David Kennedy is one of the most respected and followed individuals in the cyber security front. Be glad that he's a white-hat. I'd trust him more than the President.
 
darkstarcow said:
Not even close, there really aren't any countries that have successfully implemented universal healthcare.
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False
Are you really suggesting that the following countries do not have successful universal healthcare systems?

Argentina, Austria, Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, Cuba, Costa Rica, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Oman, Portugal, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Sweden, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Ukraine and the United Kingdom

If you take a look at the last WHO healthcare system ranking you will notice that the top 5 countries, at least, have universal healthcare systems.
 
Bottom line is our president is a terrorist doing nothing but causing confusion and pushing us into socialism. obama has only been the stepping stone to open the door so hillary can finish the destruction of the Old America with a smile.

The problem with our country is political greed and fraud and the problem with our healthcare is insurance fraud and most of it stems from the GoV side. Tell me why if I go to the hospital and get crutches and pay cash it cost me $450 yet when it's billed to a welfare person those same crutches cost $1800.

America still has the very best healthcare coverage on earth, one must go to prison, be on welfare or be an illegal to receive these services that the rest of us middle class pay for and can not obtain. That pretty long list of countries you listed with better healthcare sounds nice but not one of them come close to having the freedoms and comfort we have here in USA. The dems suck and the Repubs suck, none of them are held accountable for what they do. Time to shut down USA and start a new set of rules.
 
AK0tA said:
America still has the very best healthcare coverage on earth.
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This is false. The WHO ranked the US system 38th, and the commonwealth fund ranked the US as dead last out of the seven countries in terms of healthcare. The US system was also much more expensive in terms of per capita spending.

What "freedoms and comfort" does the US have that the countries I listed above do not? The belief in american exceptionalism aside.
 
Draax said:
This is false. The WHO ranked the US system 38th, and the commonwealth fund ranked the US as dead last out of the seven countries in terms of healthcare. The US system was also much more expensive in terms of per capita spending.

What "freedoms and comfort" does the US have that the countries I listed above do not? The belief in american exceptionalism aside.
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LOL of course we're the best, because our parents, parents, parents, parents were. The baby boomers successfully destroyed america by having kids and giving them "freedom" before they understood what freedom meant so now those shitheads have kids that are yet even shittier.

We all think that we have to have the latest/greatest. My mother in law who is a baby boomer herself believes her house is too small (its twice the size of mine that I'm raising kids in). People no longer understand what a NEED is.

I'm 31 and have kids but I raise them old school as much as I can
 
wgm3446 said:
David Kennedy is one of the most respected and followed individuals in the cyber security front. Be glad that he's a white-hat. I'd trust him more than the President.
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And his hack revealed names and email addresses. No patient records. Maybe. Did he actually give proof of this to anyone?

Deep, deep from the Fox news report: "There have been no confirmed security breaches or hacks of the site yet, despite the alarming current and past testimony from the panel."
 
AK0tA said:
Bottom line is our president is a terrorist doing nothing but causing confusion and pushing us into socialism. obama has only been the stepping stone to open the door so hillary can finish the destruction of the Old America with a smile.

The problem with our country is political greed and fraud and the problem with our healthcare is insurance fraud and most of it stems from the GoV side. Tell me why if I go to the hospital and get crutches and pay cash it cost me $450 yet when it's billed to a welfare person those same crutches cost $1800.

America still has the very best healthcare coverage on earth, one must go to prison, be on welfare or be an illegal to receive these services that the rest of us middle class pay for and can not obtain. That pretty long list of countries you listed with better healthcare sounds nice but not one of them come close to having the freedoms and comfort we have here in USA. The dems suck and the Repubs suck, none of them are held accountable for what they do. Time to shut down USA and start a new set of rules.
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How do people think that Hillary could be a world leader after the DNA spying scandal? She'd be completely distrusted by every world leader. Not that they'd trust any of us, anymore.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hillary+clinton+dna
 
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