Help finding a pc monitor (22" - 24") with no backlight glow.

P

plasmatv

n00b
Joined
Jan 11, 2014
Messages
7
Hi! I recently bought an LG IPS display, but returned it because it had too much IPS glow. I traded it for dell U2412M, but this also had the same glowing problems, although I read positive reviews.

Here's my problem: I see a white glow down to the right and left on screen, so called "IPS glow", and it bothers me extremely much, because I prefer to sit close to the screen, in a dimly lit room and watch dark movies/games.

This picture illustrates my frustration: http://oi46.tinypic.com/63ype1.jpg

So I have returned the dell u2412m, and I'm now looking for a replacement. Any suggestions? I want as little white glow as possible!

- I prefer 22, 23 or 24"
- I appreciate nice colors, and good black dept/uniformity with no white glow when sitting close.
- I will game on it (casual), so an OK response time would be nice
- I have an old dell 1905FP 19", and this has NO glow whatsoever and better picture quality and blackness, and right now I prefer that one over those glowy IPS panels tbh. Truth be told I'm disappointed by the new technology as I find my old screen being better...

Is there any mid-budget alternatives at all? Anyone has the same problem?

Thank you very much in advance!

Edit: I'm sitting about an arms length or perhaps a little less from the screen, and I need to because of my eyesight. I'm willing to go a little over budget. I'd also like to say that I think u2412m Would be great if it hadnt been for the glowing on the sides..
 
Last edited:
You'll most likely need to go the VA route. One potential issue may be sitting too close to it however, due to the viewing cone thing with VAs... edges may appear lighter than middle.

If you want IPS without glow, it'll either be the Eizo 2736 (27" and over your budget), 24" high end Eizo with filter (way over your budget) or something like the NEC 2490 - 1st gen, but you can only find those used.

Best bet probably would be to look for a 24" AMVA locally, so long as it has a hassle free return policy.
 
Namelessme said:
You'll most likely need to go the VA route. One potential issue may be sitting too close to it however, due to the viewing cone thing with VAs... edges may appear lighter than middle.

If you want IPS without glow, it'll either be the Eizo 2736 (27" and over your budget), 24" high end Eizo with filter (way over your budget) or something like the NEC 2490 - 1st gen, but you can only find those used.

Best bet probably would be to look for a 24" AMVA locally, so long as it has a hassle free return policy.
Click to expand...

Thanks for reply.

It doesn't have to be IPS for all I know, as long as the picture is nice and no glowing. I have to sit relatively close to the screen, but this is a problem with VA monitors?
 
I feel your pain, my room has horrible/glaring lighting so I watch movies and game within 2-3 feet in the dark too. Current tech IS pretty horrible when a cheap 2008 TN panel is still the best looking monitor in those usage scenarios.

If you are sitting so close and don't have to worry about viewing angles then just stick with a TN panel. There really is too much hoop jumping with VA and IPS to be worth it for our usage scenarios. The better colors of the IPS aren't worth the trade off.
 
plasmatv said:
Thanks for reply.

It doesn't have to be IPS for all I know, as long as the picture is nice and no glowing. I have to sit relatively close to the screen, but this is a problem with VA monitors?
Click to expand...

A couple of people with AMVAs have mentioned a viewing cone, which basically translates to the best image being displayed if you sit somewhat further back from the monitor. If close up, you may notice that the center of the screen is a deep black, while the sides are a lighter shade.

But I don't know how close you actually sit, so if 2-3 ft away, you may be fine. If you have your eyes 6" from the screen ... maybe not so fine.

I hate TNs, so can't recommend them, even if you sit close. Lean back at all, and half the screen changes colors on you.
 
BL2410PT
Low Input Lag
True 8bit AMVA Panel
New Revisions should be Flicker-free (check BenQ Homepage)
 
pinga said:
BL2410PT
Low Input Lag
True 8bit AMVA Panel
New Revisions should be Flicker-free (check BenQ Homepage)
Click to expand...

Thanks. Does that one have good picture quality? I read it had AG coating and that it somehow made the colors less vivid.
 
Last edited:
Yeah it has a pretty grainy AG coating. Much like Dell U2412M for instance.
 
A couple of people with AMVAs have mentioned a viewing cone, which basically translates to the best image being displayed if you sit somewhat further back from the monitor. If close up, you may notice that the center of the screen is a deep black, while the sides are a lighter shade.
Click to expand...

I can see this on my GW2255 at an arm's length, and it's only a 21.5" screen. While this shift isn't so bad for lighter colors, it can be annoying for darker content like this webpage. The Lagom viewing angle test reveals it very clearly. The grays of that page are shaded so that it's like you're looking through a porthole.

At this point, I think the best option for a general-purpose display would probably be a TN with a glossy screen, assuming you could even find one. IPS displays have that glow and most have contrast ratios in the 600:1 range, which is half of what a quality TN screen can manage. VAs are becoming very rare, and judging by the BenQ I have, the excellent contrast ratio doesn't make up for the horizontal contrast shift.
 
Although I consider IPS black levels pretty weak, they usually are better than 600:1, at least nowadays. I think most models reach 800-900:1, sometimes even 1000:1 or better.
And I'm not saying that's great, but it's usually okay-ish.

Some of the newer VA panels may be a bit better with contrast shift, or at least that is what is stated for the newer 27" panels. Then again, being larger, perhaps the viewing cone issue may be even worse.

The OP will have to pick whatever negatives they can live with. Easiest way to test is to buy locally if possible, from a place with easy returns.
 
Namelessme said:
Although I consider IPS black levels pretty weak, they usually are better than 600:1, at least nowadays. I think most models reach 800-900:1, sometimes even 1000:1 or better.
And I'm not saying that's great, but it's usually okay-ish.
Click to expand...

I agree that 1000:1 is fine for most tasks, but contrast ratio seems to be going down on IPS displays. The new HP models, for example, are apparently only ~650:1 actual, which is pretty awful.

Maybe this decrease is due to the use of lighter AG coatings, I don't know. I've often wondered why IPS displays tended to have thicker coatings than other types of displays, and I'm thinking maybe it was a way to increase contrast ratio.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top