Starbound available for preorder!

MavericK96 said:
Why are you making the (incorrect) assumption that early access/beta games don't go on sale?
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I know some Early Access games on Steam have gone on sale before, but I would assume that depends on the company or developer.

And, pretty much the game is open beta like Minecraft was in Alpha then Beta for quite a while before actual launch. It's very playable even if in this state. Not many beta and alpha games are fully playable, and Starbound bucks that trend.

Like Minecraft, there will be things added to it as time goes by until they decide when to actually launch the game and transition from beta to launch version. Everything added after that will either be from mods or from the developers themselves.

(I need to suggest on their forums to add a bookmark list for planets... My friends and I have forgotten to bookmark our home planet/home base and lost the coordinates to it. :p)
 
I've watched TB's videos of this game and have to say that I am very intrigued. I love Terraria, so I'm confident I'm going to love this.

Starbound gives me a strong nostalgia for StarFlight- just the way you can travel to different planets and collect resources makes me draw that comparison. I am unaware of any kind of interstellar politics, like in StarFlight, but if that exists I'll go drop the $15 right now!
 
CreganTur said:
I've watched TB's videos of this game and have to say that I am very intrigued. I love Terraria, so I'm confident I'm going to love this.

Starbound gives me a strong nostalgia for StarFlight- just the way you can travel to different planets and collect resources makes me draw that comparison. I am unaware of any kind of interstellar politics, like in StarFlight, but if that exists I'll go drop the $15 right now!
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I can tell you this much. Im having a blast and from what I can gather, as Ive been following the devs very closely for this game, they are ALL about putting out quality work. I just really hope it stays that way..

I wouldnt hold your breath for a sale any time soon guys. This game is currently still in "Beta". Maybe around release they might do some kind of steam sale but I dont think that will be at least until next year. I can tell you though, its definitely worth the $15.

If you liked Terraria, you should love this. If you didn't like terraria then there is a strong change you wont like this super imrpoved "Terraria" clone lol...
 
I hate this early access stuff. I really really really want this. I loved Terraria, and I've watched a couple vids of this so I know I'd like it. That being said, I cannot stand character wipes (Which I'm thinking there will be more of) I want to play the game with all the content the first time. I'd love to plop down the money and support these guys, but I know if I did that I'd be to anxious and I'd play the game.
 
there are literally hundreds of channels on twitch streaming live gameplay, just check those out and decide for yourself. why does it matter to be in early access as long as they fully intend to finish it, even such an early beta build was well worth the asking price, they were not lacking in content at all.

Satarel said:
There have been multiple Early Access games that received discounts on Steam. Prison Architect, War of the Vikings, Maia, and Particulars to name a few.

To say there is a less than zero percent chance of the game being discounted is rather asinine on your part.
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you must be joking, prison architect charged an absurd premium of $30(?) for well over a year iirc, before putting it on early access out of necessity. that game looks DOA, and forever still in alpha, which is probably the case for those other obscure titles as well. pointless comparison here, chucklefish is basically printing money at this point. it would be a slap in the face to backers as well, many who contributed much more on nothing but good will. doesn't make any sense, talk about asinine assumptions.
 
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I hate this early access stuff. I really really really want this. I loved Terraria, and I've watched a couple vids of this so I know I'd like it. That being said, I cannot stand character wipes (Which I'm thinking there will be more of) I want to play the game with all the content the first time. I'd love to plop down the money and support these guys, but I know if I did that I'd be to anxious and I'd play the game.
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Wait, this game is online only, as playing on their online servers?

I was under the impression that it would be similar to Terraria where we can play offline and save on our own computer.
 
Kerbal Space Program, Cubeworld and Prison Architect make me worried about devs completing their products.

Yeah, I bet you forgot about cubeworld didn't you? There hasn't been an update in 6 months since their cash grab alpha-release.
 
lilbabycat said:
Kerbal Space Program, Cubeworld and Prison Architect make me worried about devs completing their products.

Yeah, I bet you forgot about cubeworld didn't you? There hasn't been an update in 6 months since their cash grab alpha-release.
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Aside from some bugs and balance issues, this could have been sold to me as a finished game for $15 and I wouldn't be able to argue otherwise.

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Satarel said:
There have been multiple Early Access games that received discounts on Steam. Prison Architect, War of the Vikings, Maia, and Particulars to name a few.

To say there is a less than zero percent chance of the game being discounted is rather asinine on your part.
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Just to clarify my original post, I didn't say it wouldn't go on sale, just not for 10$ for a very long time. Excluding the 4-pack conversion.

Still doesn't change the fact that's it's worth more, in entertainment, than some 'AAA' titles out there. :p


Hornet said:
Wait, this game is online only, as playing on their online servers?

I was under the impression that it would be similar to Terraria where we can play offline and save on our own computer.
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You can most certainly play it single player, on a LAN, or online (hosted by you)! :)
 
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Considering who is involved and how genuine they've been with the development along with their interaction with the community, it's a pretty safe bet this game will become a finished product. As some are arguing, in many ways it is. I've been holding off playing to see if I can make it to at least Stage 2 before jumping in as things are changing quite a bit with the patches... and I've got a million other things to play.

For those looking for a discount - consider purchasing a 4-pack, I'm sure there's enough interest between personal friends and people here on the board to make some 4-packs happen!
 
lilbabycat said:
Kerbal Space Program, Cubeworld and Prison Architect make me worried about devs completing their products.

Yeah, I bet you forgot about cubeworld didn't you? There hasn't been an update in 6 months since their cash grab alpha-release.
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https://twitter.com/wol_lay

just sayin' - man is workin' hard and you seem to be throwing that away, I don't know the specifics of course, nobody really does, but the poeple directly involved, but he was pretty heavily pressured to release what he had in beta form

not even sure why y'all are arguing about this - there will likely be steam discounts on this game but it won't be for a while I'm sure since it just hit early access. Starbound is pretty awesome (if you liked Terraria, if not... move along) imo

quit riddling threads with negativity - I don't know of anyone that has liked/loved Terraria that didn't enjoy Starbound to some degree

As for myself, I think it's a great game and eager to play more after the fix/changes that went in this morning.
 
mas said:
you must be joking, prison architect charged an absurd premium of $30(?) for well over a year iirc, before putting it on early access out of necessity. that game looks DOA, and forever still in alpha, which is probably the case for those other obscure titles as well. pointless comparison here, chucklefish is basically printing money at this point. it would be a slap in the face to backers as well, many who contributed much more on nothing but good will. doesn't make any sense, talk about asinine assumptions.
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You're attempting to twist this into an entirely different argument based on the merits of the games I listed. The fact is early access games are offered at discounted prices. The other fact is that you have offered no definitive proof regarding Starbound's eligibility to receive a discount during the Winter Sale. You need to look up the definition of the word assumption and follow that up with hypocrite. I'm not saying whether you're right or wrong about your prediction but to attempt to pass it off as an indisputable fact is...asinine.

My apologies for cluttering this thread with non game related discussion. I however will be waiting for the possibility of a discounted price during the Winter Sale. I also have no interest investing a large amount of play time until they are no longer wiping characters. It would appear that will not occur until Stage 2 of the beta, whenever that is.
 
Yeah, even with Terraria my version 1.0 character still works to this day on the newer versions. Character wipes more often than not just piss me off. I understand they're necessary sometimes, though for a game like this I'm not quite sure why.
 
Yeah I legit love the look and feel of this game. I was a pretty decent fan of Terraria. However, I can't pay $15 to have my character randomly wiped. It's as simple as that
 
I can understand not wanting character wiped. As long as the developer was up front and transparent about it, and the customers that purchased it are aware, I think everyone is OK with it.
 
The character wipes are well known and documented. People need to stop assuming that early access means getting to play a nearly final game with only a few bugs. This game is in a very early beta, possibly better described as alpha right now. Character wipes will happen, you are essentially pre-purchasing the game and until release are helping to test it. Don't assume anything you do before the release will be kept in tact.
 
MavericK96 said:
Yeah, even with Terraria my version 1.0 character still works to this day on the newer versions. Character wipes more often than not just piss me off. I understand they're necessary sometimes, though for a game like this I'm not quite sure why.
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Well, the one that happened last night was after a overhaul to the combat system, so all the old content would literally not work with the new one.

They are working about it intelligently. :)
 
Shantarr.Dalrae said:
Well, the one that happened last night was after a overhaul to the combat system, so all the old content would literally not work with the new one.

They are working about it intelligently. :)
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Agreed.

There is certainly nothing nefarious about their early access. Its plainly stated on the Starbound forums what each phase of beta will involve from the end user.
 
Wanted to hit this thread back up and post this image:

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lilbabycat said:
Kerbal Space Program, Cubeworld and Prison Architect make me worried about devs completing their products.
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I can't really speak for the other 2 since I haven't even so much as glanced them over, but KSP has regular updates. There has been a lot of work going on under the hood of the game, so even the minor updates which don't seem to have a lot have more than you think. If you don't follow the weekly dev blog updates it may seem like nothing is going on.

They used to have more frequent updates, but people bitched because the number of changes was smaller and would break their save games, so then they switched to updating more infrequently to have bigger updates, and now people bitch because they take too long for new stuff. :rolleyes: You can't please everyone.
 
castun said:
There has been a lot of work going on under the hood of the game, so even the minor updates which don't seem to have a lot have more than you think. If you don't follow the weekly dev blog updates it may seem like nothing is going on.
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"But if I followed developer updates then I wouldn't be able to complain about lack of said content on forums!!" :eek:
 
Hornet said:
Wait, this game is online only, as playing on their online servers?

I was under the impression that it would be similar to Terraria where we can play offline and save on our own computer.
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they have some hosted servers, and you can play sp or host your own dedi on win/lin/mac just the same. the character wipes have nothing to do with this, data formats are just being constantly updated so this is pretty much inevitable.

Satarel said:
You're attempting to twist this into an entirely different argument based on the merits of the games I listed. The fact is early access games are offered at discounted prices. The other fact is that you have offered no definitive proof regarding Starbound's eligibility to receive a discount during the Winter Sale. You need to look up the definition of the word assumption and follow that up with hypocrite. I'm not saying whether you're right or wrong about your prediction but to attempt to pass it off as an indisputable fact is...asinine.

My apologies for cluttering this thread with non game related discussion. I however will be waiting for the possibility of a discounted price during the Winter Sale. I also have no interest investing a large amount of play time until they are no longer wiping characters. It would appear that will not occur until Stage 2 of the beta, whenever that is.
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this is indeed relevant to the topic, the state of the game and its future should be part of your buying decision and whether or not you want to invest time on it. there is no argument or twisting going on here, what difference does it make if this is being marketed by valve on early access or elsewhere? that is actually the irrelevant part, what we want to do is help others make informed decisions on whether or not to buy now.

so after seeing a bunch of posts from people expecting some steep discount coming your way, the facts of the matter and what I wanted to make perfectly clear is, the odds of this are not in your favor. and you are wasting your time if denying yourself purely on the assumption that it can be had cheaper any time soon, they just finished a kickstarter and pre-order campaign hosted with humble bundle, why would you expect a sale knowing this?
 
And it sounds like some of you should just wait till beta is over.
You'll get a more complete game anyway. There is still so much more to be added, the game is very ambitious. I think they will succeed. It's been great so far, but I'm not trying to get very far, because I expect the wipes. Makes it less frustrating, but if thats too much, just wait.
 
Jesus christ lots of whining and bitching in this thread. If you dont want to pay for a BETA/Early Access, dont. If you do, then please buy it. The game is WELL worth the money EVEN in the BETA state and by beta I mean a damn near release quality game in most developers eyes now days, it seems... The wipes sucks but trust me, this game has SOO much to do and explore that when there is a wipe its really just an excuse to explore and find even more shit.

As far as a stand alone client. ATM for BETA testing all play is done through steam. They have said that in the future, IE release, they plan on having a stand alone client, so don't worry about that.

Just to clarify, the game IS worth the money if you are a fan of these types and its currently in BETA not necessarily an early access. So take that for whats its worth before you make the purchase.

Id also like to point out that these are some of the most talkative devs Ive ever seen. I dont think a day has gone by yet when some kind of information straight out of Tiy's mouth hasnt popped up somewhere about a new feature or what theyre working on.
 
mas said:
so after seeing a bunch of posts from people expecting some steep discount coming your way, the facts of the matter and what I wanted to make perfectly clear is, the odds of this are not in your favor. and you are wasting your time if denying yourself purely on the assumption that it can be had cheaper any time soon, they just finished a kickstarter and pre-order campaign hosted with humble bundle, why would you expect a sale knowing this?
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I don't know where you are getting all of this. As far as I can tell no one was expecting a steep discount, but knowing that the winter Steam sale is coming likely within days, it seems silly to pay full price for ANY title right now, early access or not. And yes, early access games, even ones that have just been released a month or so ago, have been discounted before...it does happen, it's not even arguable that it does because it's a fact. Will this title get discounted? Who knows. But if not, I can choose to pay the same $15 after the winter sale, or buy someone's 4-pack copy. I'm not missing out on anything, other than playing through character wipes.
 
dont normally care for any of these 'indy' games, but fuck if this game isnt addicting.
 
New char, first planet:
Walk left a bit, empty hi-tech safehouse.
Did under it "hey there's silver almost at the surface" ... go down a bit more diamonds...a bit more; diamonds, silver, gold, iron, platinum in sand+gravel.

Go back to surface, go left more, avian temple, get a sword which shoots a lightning balls, go left even more, 3 hi-tech labs with a chest in each + a mushroom area with a chest that had two blueprints.

I ended up having to go to another planet just to get a decent stockpile of coal+copper, while having 50+ bars of iron,gold,silver,plat,diamond.
 
lilbabycat said:
New char, first planet:
Walk left a bit, empty hi-tech safehouse.
Did under it "hey there's silver almost at the surface" ... go down a bit more diamonds...a bit more; diamonds, silver, gold, iron, platinum in sand+gravel.

Go back to surface, go left more, avian temple, get a sword which shoots a lightning balls, go left even more, 3 hi-tech labs with a chest in each + a mushroom area with a chest that had two blueprints.

I ended up having to go to another planet just to get a decent stockpile of coal+copper, while having 50+ bars of iron,gold,silver,plat,diamond.
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WTF?
Give me that planets coordinates! I wanna see!
 
I'll have to look em up next time i'm on, Iight only have the first three digits (which would be essentially useless), I'll take a look.

I ended up getting a slow, but strong 2hander legendary from a mini-boss, it throws out bones in a slight arc. As it turns out, the bones damage terrain, but is somewhat weak. It can clear dirt,sand,gravel or similar in 2-3 swings though, and clear like 15 blocks at a time when it does, so its great as a free clearing tools. For killing enemies, its absolutely destroys as long as you time the swing right (its like 1.2 speed) and get multiple of the bones that spawn to hit.

I back that sword up with another 2hander that poisons on hit, which I use for more straightforward fights, and when I don't wanna destroy everything else around me.

The downside though, is that I swung it on accident in my ship, hit two chests, filled my inventory, then half the items ended up disappearing (they have a ~1min timer before the poof), which kinda sucked.

I moved on to the Beta sector and I'm currently looking on how to build a robot, but can't seem to find a brain to make the artificial brain to make the robot head to make the robot. I built the brain extractor but everything I kill (including "intelligent" people) has either no brain drop or just an inferior brain. I guess I'll have to try it on a boss.

Game is really cool but its starting to get repetitive fast. Mining, even with a diamond pick, is dreadfully slow in anything cobblestone or harder. Sand/Gravel pits are usually what I search for, you just dig downwards and it all just collapses around you and all the ore just pours into your inventory.

When this character gets reset i'm probably going to be upset. Especially since I found a keytar, a bass guitar, and and acoustic guitar late last night in some chests. I'm currently exploring the solar system at (420420420, 420420420) of the beta sector but haven't found anything extremely interesting yet...well aside from a pretty cool Avian Burial Temple. The entrance was a huge bird head with open mouth and very egyptian style within. No bosses or cool items though, just some good decorations.
 
I myself don't like how upgrading the pickaxes doesn't really make mining cobblestone and above feel any faster. However, I like everything else about the game.

New reset character I made, found a Glitch castle within about 15 seconds west of my little hut. Dug tunnel under the castle into the throne room and killed the King/Regent Glitch. Managed to kill all the guards and loot the place. If I build a bed in there, will the teleport put me there instead of the initial insertion point? Curious, because I thought about looting all the blocks and making my own castle, but that's a large undertaking for a character that's gonna be wiped. It's a huge castle. Took me forever to figure out I could use coal as fuel.
 
Tried this game today, the monsters are pretty brutal :eek:

But anyway I'm just following the tutorial along. Hopefully I'll die lesser once I get better equipment, lol
 
I found a bandit camp that had a mutant Apex in a cage. The mutant would do like 50 poison damage to you if you touched it. Also found a rainbow cape that sparkles, ha.
 
Hornet said:
Tried this game today, the monsters are pretty brutal :eek:

But anyway I'm just following the tutorial along. Hopefully I'll die lesser once I get better equipment, lol
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In my opinion, the most annoying monsters are the following: (Worst offender to least)

  1. Anything with wings.
  2. Monsters that shoot plasma bolts at you.
  3. "Mini-bosses" (They're the ones that look like they're twice the normal size of monsters.)
  4. Monsters that charge at you like an NFL linebacker.
  5. Monsters that "fart"... er... shoot puffs of gas.
  6. Monsters you think look cute and non-violent but are actually deadly.
  7. Non-aggressive monsters until they bare their fangs.
  8. NPC village guards. If you are in a genocidal mood, be prepared before you enter a village.
  9. The automated chef-- why the frack does it have a light-saber?!
  10. Anything that looks like "Espurr" and walks on two legs.
(Note: Your mileage may vary.)
 
Satarel said:
You're attempting to twist this into an entirely different argument based on the merits of the games I listed. The fact is early access games are offered at discounted prices.
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I don't think that's the case in all cases. The consumer assumes that early access titles are discounted, but really, when you look at how much some early access titles are charging it is very difficult to imagine that those are not "full retail" prices already.

Kerbal Space Program commanding a whopping $27 and having a 40% off sale for the second time in just 2 weeks tells me that people are not willing to spend $27 on this game.

The "The Age of Decadence" dev has said on the Steam forum that $25 is the price of their game, they are not going to make early access less expensive and they are not planning on raising the price after release.

Early Access is basically a marketing tool created by Valve to skim cash off of those transactions without the need to take any responsibility for whether those games ever deliver. In that case the Early Access program is actually worse than Kickstarter where there is at least some sort of outcry if the devs don't make any progress.
 
The difference there is that Age of Decadence has a really big free demo. You aren't giving them money blindly.
 
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