tried giving metro a chance

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SlipperyPete

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Fresh format and install of windows 8.1 including all windows updates. I figure I'll give metro apps a fighting chance just to see what theyre like. And... they don't work. Click weather app and it tries to open then goes right back to start screen. Same with most others. Had to run some wacky command line to get the store to work. Went in there, update apps.. they still don't work. Lol.

From the troubleshooting I've done it seems the apps are tied to user account. I'm signed in to ms live and everything. The only thing I can think of is I took ownership of my boot drive.

All in all a wonderful experience. Glad I only paid $30 for this.
 
If you did a fresh install, why would you mess with disk permissions? Is your windows not cracked at all? 30 bucks sounds really fishy. I've done hundreds of windows 8.1 installs and all of them worked flawless right out of the box.
 
I have no problem running apps, But none of them are worht using.
 
Just checked my receipt...Actually it was $15...$40 upgrade price at launch- $25 promo price (don't remember what promo) direct from ms.

Had to change permissions because windows was not letting me into my application data folder.
 
Stoly said:
I have no problem running apps, But none of them are worht using.
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LOL - that was my thought. The only one I ever use is mail and that's just because it's convenient and pre-installed. It's not even as good as the mail app on an iPhone.
 
Domingo said:
LOL - that was my thought. The only one I ever use is mail and that's just because it's convenient and pre-installed. It's not even as good as the mail app on an iPhone.
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Hmmm, the mail app has come a long way. If you're using Exchange based email it's probably enough for a lot of people. As for the general work of modern apps, there are a number that a good for content viewing and playback even on the desktop. Hyper is a 3rd party YouTube that's pretty cool, no ads, built-in downloading, nice app. Some decent casual games, news readers. The Nook app is nice, NextGen reader. Don't care for Flipboard.

If you look at things that you always have to do through the web normally on a PC there is some convenience here. In a place like this there's probably not a lot that would entice the hardcore desktop user but if you use Windows on a tablet, modern apps are a must. Having to always use the desktop on a touch interface isn't great experience.
 
SlipperyPete said:
Thanks this looks like my solution... Can't believe how long the instructions are. What a mistake, all I wanted was ownership of my boot drive.
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Times have changed sadly. Used to be that WIndows worked for you. Now more and more it seems like you are working for Windows, and for Microsoft's extreme iPad envy.

Anyway don't expect much from the Metro apps-- they're a marketing/PR campaign first, usability second, PC afterthought third. It took them almost an entire year just to add something as basic as drag&drop support to the Mail app. Metro apps are intended for Microsoft's tablets and other devices you poke with your fingers and they don't care that they aren't very intuitive on a PC with mouse/keyboard.
 
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DPI said:
Makes you wonder, is Windows 8 working for you, or are you working for Windows 8?

Anyway don't expect much from the Metro apps-- they're a marketing/PR campaign first, usability second, PC afterthought third. They are intended for tablets and other devices you poke with your finger and Microsoft doesn't care they aren't very intuitive on a PC with mouse/keyboard.
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Considering the level of MS Cloud Bullshit Integration we will all become Involuntary Employees of MS.
 
DPI said:
Times have changed sadly. Used to be that WIndows worked for you.
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Because before Windows 8 every PC Windows was installed on just always worked. Or not.

DPI said:
Now more and more it seems like you are working for Windows, and for Microsoft's extreme iPad envy.
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Or maybe people are buying more and more tablets and fewer PCs. And Macs as well.

DPI said:
Anyway don't expect much from the Metro apps-- they're a marketing/PR campaign first, usability second, PC afterthought third. It took them almost an entire year just to add something as basic as drag&drop support to the Mail app. Metro apps are intended for Microsoft's tablets and other devices you poke with your fingers and they don't care that they aren't very intuitive on a PC with mouse/keyboard.
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Modern apps are a marketing ploy but at the same time are intended for tablets you poke with your fingers? But they are unintuitive with a keyboard and mouse because no one ever right clicks in a desktop app?
 
SlipperyPete said:
Just checked my receipt...Actually it was $15...$40 upgrade price at launch- $25 promo price (don't remember what promo) direct from ms.

Had to change permissions because windows was not letting me into my application data folder.
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You modified permissions on the app data folder and don't think application problems might somehow be related?
 
Once again, like most Win 8 threads, this is descending into a hate thread :(

I like quite a few Metro apps such as the Netflix app (the best Netflix client, beats their website for sure), Bing Travel, The Big Picture, a few games.

They are not meant to replace your desktop apps.
 
Let's put some love back in...

I think Metro is fine for small mobile touch input devices which lack a keyboard and mouse. And I'll stop there to honor the statement above.
 
Hawkbox said:
You modified permissions on the app data folder and don't think application problems might somehow be related?
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+1 - While you're at it, go ahead and give yourself exclusive rights to the System folder.
 
It's really simple... higher end users and businesses, especially larger corporations, prefer functionality to jumping on board with The Latest Thing™. The touch screen is a non-starter for these groups. The keyboard is not legacy, it's a must. Companies must also consider the costs and learning curves, as well as the compatibility with their in-house/other software.

Win 8.1 is nothing more than lip-service to consumers and fails to address the myriad of concerns. Ballmer is incredibly stubborn. Look how he handled Vista. Maybe when MS finally wakes up and realizes their software just isn't selling and groups are not rushing to the cloud, they can try to remember why people used Windows in the first place and what made it great and get back on track in Windows9.
 
DPI said:
It's really simple... higher end users and businesses, especially larger corporations, prefer functionality to jumping on board with The Latest Thing™. The touch screen is a non-starter for these groups. The keyboard is not legacy, it's a must. Companies must also consider the costs and learning curves, as well as the compatibility with their in-house/other software.
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Fortunately, Windows 8/8.1 works just as well if not better than Windows 7 does with a mouse and keyboard. It expands functionality, rather than replacing it.

DPI said:
Maybe when MS finally wakes up and realizes their software just isn't selling and groups are not rushing to the cloud, they can try to remember why people used Windows in the first place and what made it great and get back on track in Windows9.
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In terms of desktops and laptops, they're doing better than Apple is right now. The actual numbers and the reality of the situation look vastly different from what consumers and PC techs with their lack of insight and understanding see.
 
DPI said:
Maybe when MS finally wakes up and realizes their software just isn't selling and groups are not rushing to the cloud, they can try to remember why people used Windows in the first place and what made it great and get back on track in Windows9.
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What makes Windows special is its tremendous first tier 3rd party support across a wide variety of hardware and software. No client OS ever created has as diverse support across as wide a variety of hardware and software as Windows 8.1. 8.1 runs on every form factor lager than a current smart phone, from Angry Birds Star Wars II on touch screen to BF4 running the latest and greatest GPUs across 3 monitors and beyond.

This is what people have forgotten about the thing called Windows.
 
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