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Holy fuck that newsreader is hot.
No, I am not asking for news reports. I am asking you Stiletto, personally, a question. How does the NSA monitor the private communications of US Citizens?
No, I am not asking for news reports. I am asking you Stiletto, personally, a question. How does the NSA monitor the private communications of US Citizens?
Why are you asking me when experts have already explained the situation for months now? Sorry, that's a rhetorical question. You're setting up your old trap. You're going back to "who are the names of the people who specifically did this? When? How do you know it was them?" Basically red herrings designed to fracture an argument on the basis of lack of details that no reasonable person could possibly be expected to know. You've done this before, demanding details of government corruption from the fallacious view of "if you can't tell me who in government is corrupt, then you don't know that there is corruption in government". It's gotten no more relevant, months later. It is quite a crafty twist on argument from authority, though.
Not to worry. He will blame the "media" and the Saudis soon enough. Or was it the Jews?
of lack of details that no reasonable person could possibly be expected to know.
No, this is not the argument. the argument, tho you refuse to acknowledge it, is claims of proof that do not exist. You can't say there is proof and not be able to at least point to it. But just like this video that makes terrific claims, it is again vague and there is no proof, just noise that it's supposed to be true.
In this round I am just asking how they do it? I am not trying to pin you down to a technical description of how the actually pull it off, just a general statement. A loose description of how they are doing it. I thought I knew but turned out I was wrong. Gen. Alexander explained it in a video someone linked to just the other day, Some Senator Johnson was questioning him I think.
The first violations she talks about were the ones about the program that the NSA discontinued in .
The last is the report about the real privacy rights violations that occurred over about the last ten years that once you distil them down amount to so employees fucking up
The video is useless.
Anything can be useless if you have a closed mind.
The NSA was ordered to stop the program, they say they did, no one has shown that they didn't. They did start a new program later that was different that the FISA Court did allow. There is no reason to think that the NSA didn't stop it as ordered and the creation of the new program suggests they did in fact stop the old and begin the new in a manner acceptable to the same people who told them to stop it's predecessor.Do you have actual proof they discontinued it?
The documents with detailed information was published a couple of weeks ago, linked to by the [H] (Steve), and debated here in these forums just as this one is.Do you have actual proof to back up this claim?
...But they have done a very good job of getting people to believe that the NSA is reading everything and watching everyone and as a previous poster commented "Hi NSA".
You've been wrong for a long time now. Way past that phase, captain.But I do know what I know, I'll admit when I am wrong, or if I am shown to be wrong. But on this subject you haven't done this yet.
The NSA was ordered to stop the program, they say they did, no one has shown that they didn't.
They did start a new program later that was different that the FISA Court did allow.
There is no reason to think that the NSA didn't stop it as ordered and the creation of the new program suggests they did in fact stop the old and begin the new in a manner acceptable to the same people who told them to stop it's predecessor.
The documents with detailed information was published a couple of weeks ago, linked to by the [H] (Steve), and debated here in these forums just as this one is.
Do you know how to use the search function, or just look up my previous posts?
My proof is as good as yours and I know my research is better.
Don't get off track now, these individuals, the targets, they are not US Persons, they have no privacy protections, they are the people the NSA is supposed to be watching and are legitimate intelligence collection targets.
Don't get off track now, these individuals, the targets, they are not US Persons...
No more then you love to think you don't need the protection.
'Better', as in it coincides with your own (the US GOV is the only good guys) biased personal opinion and "the NSA is a necessary evil" kind of person. In my life it's usually brainwashed military people that think this way. Everyone is a terrorist but the biggest terrorists of all, YES, the USfuckingGOV. Drone striking kids is terrorism FYI! War for profit IS terrorism.
Nothing you see now or read in this life that's fact will change this, in my opinion at least. The NSA could knock on your door and say they're breaking numerous laws and you'd say they don't know that without proving to little ol' you they really are. Back to reality, that won't happen, so you're staying right where you are right now. Good luck with that (see below).
Wrong. And this is the crux of where we part ways. Abdulrahman al-Awlaki.
Same deal Stiletto, show me someone who has been targeted wrongly, just one.
. I could bring up countless cases.........
Are you really questioning whether our government backed federal agencies wrongly target people?
Can you point to a single solitary instance where a US Citizen was jailed, hurt, damaged, fined, coerced, or put upon in any way that you can directly attribute to the NSA or information gathered by the NSA?
(The photo above is from the door-to-door sweep in Watertown at that time.)
But my son’s reading habits combined with my search for a pressure cooker and my husband’s search for a backpack set off an alarm of sorts at the joint terrorism task force headquarters. That’s how I imagine it played out, anyhow. Lots of bells and whistles and a crowd of task force workers huddled around a computer screen looking at our Google history.
The former employee’s computer searches took place on this employee’s workplace computer. On that computer, the employee searched the terms "pressure cooker bombs" and "backpacks." After interviewing the company representatives, Suffolk County Police Detectives visited the subject’s home to ask about the suspicious internet searches. The incident was investigated by Suffolk County Police Department’s Criminal Intelligence Detectives and was determined to be non-criminal in nature.
Same deal Stiletto, show me someone who has been targeted wrongly, just one.
The president has now executed an American citizen using drone technology
Oopps, Sorry Stiletto, I got your post and MrTryfe's post mixed up. It's now any of the three of you who are welcome to point out one of these unfortunate souls.
No link, I guess I'll have to go look for it.
From an earlier topic or previously in this one?I already gave you his name.
You lost LeninGHOLA?Basically anyone who is in prison (military or otherwise) without charges being brought against them.
From an earlier topic or previously in this one?
You lost LeninGHOLA?
You know of an American Citizen imprisoned without charges?
MasonD ICan you point to a single solitary instance where a US Citizen was jailed, hurt, damaged, fined, coerced, or put upon in any way that you can directly attribute to the NSA or information gathered by the NSA?
The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings
The best way to prevent 'TERRORISM' is to stop participating in it yourself.
Abdulrahman al-Awlaki