Haswell Z87 SFF motherboard list

WiSK said:
Looks nice :)
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agreed, possibly the nicest looking mini-ITX Z87, it should look pretty tidy inside an M1!

JoanTheSpark said:
hm.. gorgeous. Any known specs (esp for GPU)?
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I was only sent a link, no specs. I think this is just the next level of teaser before the full details are revealed. Reasonable guess at Killer NIC on the mobo, single 8 pin power on the graphics card puts it firmly in the GTX 760 class?
 
From the preview site the set of features is very impressive. Packed with that software, it looks great. Why does the GPU have single DVI when most have double stacked? Theyve considered cooling?
 
huguberhart said:
From the preview site the set of features is very impressive. Packed with that software, it looks great. Why does the GPU have single DVI when most have double stacked? Theyve considered cooling?
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Looks like there are some more cutouts in the double pci bracket to the left of the DVI.. maybe Displayport(s)?
 
IanM said:
I was only sent a link, no specs. I think this is just the next level of teaser before the full details are revealed. Reasonable guess at Killer NIC on the mobo, single 8 pin power on the graphics card puts it firmly in the GTX 760 class?
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I hope they didn't use a Killer NIC as those have their issues. A single 8-pin PCIe connector is the same as two 6-pin PCIe connectors. So a GTX 760 is very possible, considering it already has a short PCB.
 
I'm not particularly a fan of where the socket is located on the mainboard. Imho Noctua manufactures the best cpu heatsinks atm, but often they get in the way of the graphics card, if the socket isn't locacted where it should be - in the middle of the board..

Anyway, looks nice,and I hope decent soundchips (like Creative X-Fi) will be placed on more often on ITX board. Killer NIC ist a nice to have, but not mandatory. ;)
 
siRtobey said:
I'm not particularly a fan of where the socket is located on the mainboard. Imho Noctua manufactures the best cpu heatsinks atm, but often they get in the way of the graphics card, if the socket isn't locacted where it should be - in the middle of the board..
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None of the Z87's have the CPU socket in the middle.
On such a small form factor there is either pest or cholera - the northbridge has to sit above or below the CPU socket, can't go right or left obviously.
Maybe SO-DIMMs would help a bit to get some more space on there...

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If you got a cooler that has the heatpipes come just up from one side, MSI and GA work fine. Try to fit those onto an AsRock or EVGA and it will stick out at the top or needs to be mounted head-down.
If you got a cooler that has got heatpipes come up at two sides, MSI and GA most definitely wont fit them and they will stick out over the mITX boundary on the AsRock and EVGA (120mm top down blower and up).
 
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Ok, let's say more ore less in the middle. :D
Afaik ASUS Boards aren't a problem with Noctua Coolers, but you are right, it is a very inconvinient state.
 
I am thinking about purchasing the AsRock Z87E-ITX. Can anybody confirm if the AXP-200 will fit on the motherboard and if it will in which direction do i have to install the cpu cooler to.
From the looks of it the cooler will only fit if you take the picture from a above as an example and install the cooler so that the heatpipes are on the right side.
Can somebody help me out? Thank you guys.
 
Eurgh, Killer NIC. Way to go to ruin any (gaming) product.
Socket placement is also not good, off-center horizontally and vertically. You'd best use a CLC solution.
 
My opinion:

Asus Impact is filled with daughterboards, severly limiting cooling possibilities and only useful when doing serious overclocking (>20%)
MSI Gaming has a less then average socket placement and has a Killer NIC, which has a lot of issues for many.

I choose the Asrock, albeit before the previously mentioned ones were out, because it has an overall good placement of many sockets (only real problem is the 4-pin CPU power), it has mSATA, Wireless 802.11ac and a decent BIOS. I really liked assembling my Ncase with it and it's popularity is growing in this thread meaning you'll find plenty of experience with it for CPU coolers.
 
Well the good thing about asus and msi is they have service centre here so i can just drop off my board if i have to rma.

I don't need the soundcard in the impact... Premium too much

I don't need msata on the asrock

I don't need the killer lan on msi
 
Any measurements available for MSI Z87I Gaming AC CPU socket distance from PCI Express slot?

Looking at my existing air cooler, that I wanted to re-use, it needs 28mm from the fixing holes on motherboards.
 
I'd like to re-use a EnzoTechnology Ultra-X CPU cooler when upgrade. Providing it can cool Haswell non-overclocked CPU up to i5-4670, preferably passively or using PSU/case fans over one directly fitted to heatsink.

Dimensions of heatsink available on this link.

Seems most suitable choice for socket location is Asus's Z87i range, but I can't work out if it will fit heatpipes pointing up when motherboard mounted vertically and not extend beyond motherboard edge. Or if limited to having heatpipes point to rear I/O panel to keep width within motherboard dimensions.
 
For those using Gigabyte GA-Z87N-Wifi or GA-H87N-Wifi on Windows 7, does it support hibernation? I have the H87 version and have been happy with it overall, but can’t get my system to hibernate successfully (S4 power state), and I’m not seeing it listed as an option in the bios. I haven’t gotten any further in my own research, haven’t received a reply from the company, and thought it was worth asking here.
Thanks!
 
the ASrock board has some very good features/abilities which the others don't have, the Asus Impact, is without a doubt the best quality of the lot, has and at least 3 AIO waterblocks i know of, and that's disapointing that the manufacturers all focussed on the same board, even the Asus Deluxe board doesnt have one i know of, it also doesnt make use of the possibility of an mSATA or mPCIe board. the ASrock doesnt have the same quality power delivery that the Asus has, or top end audio, but make better use of available resources, like sharing one sata skt with an eSATA skt, and another with a mPCIe/mSATA skt, because nobody really needs 6 internal sata skts do they ??
 
Phuncz said:
Eurgh, Killer NIC. Way to go to ruin any (gaming) product.
Socket placement is also not good, off-center horizontally and vertically. You'd best use a CLC solution.
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Killer is better than the shit intel NICs people slap on boards or Realtek.

Really, any onboard NIC is just as garbage as onboard GPUs. Good intel NICs worth the cash don't even start until well over 100 bucks as an add on. But when space is needed and you're stuck with onboard, the Killer 2200 is as good as it gets.

Nothing is more trash than onboard intel living off the halo of it's 200 buck+ server products.
 
acerbic said:
Killer is better than the shit intel NICs people slap on boards or Realtek.

Really, any onboard NIC is just as garbage as onboard GPUs. Good intel NICs worth the cash don't even start until well over 100 bucks as an add on. But when space is needed and you're stuck with onboard, the Killer 2200 is as good as it gets.

Nothing is more trash than onboard intel living off the halo of it's 200 buck+ server products.
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Please, proof. Because I can show you the opposite:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1765229
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Mother...Motherboard-Review/System-Port-Device-Testing --> However, its CPU utilization averaged higher than expected at 15-20%.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=167836.msg1284682#msg1284682

I've never read that the Killer NIC's actually help, unless by some fluke accident that the QoS was just right for the situation. But I've read many times the exact opposite: how it ruins their experience. Thier NIC's aren't unique what I can tell from the info, it seems to be just a Qualcomm host-based NIC with extra software required to do "magic".

I don't get the Intel NIC hate you have, as many who choose for an Intel NIC will not be for some server-oriented quad-port Gbit NIC, since their 25$ desktop variant already performs very well.
 
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