What will your M1 build contain!?

Is anyone looking at PCIe M.2 SSDs? I had some questions actually: First, does the M6I support it? Second, how does their performance compare?

Hi,

Yes, the Impact has an M.2 slot on the mpcie combo module, sadly though it's most likely wired to a single pcie 2.0 lane, like all other current M.2 implementations by Asus.

So they'll be great for saving space, but won't really offer any performance improvement over SATA 3.
 
^^ +1. Just slightly lower throughput than the fastest available 2.5" SSDs, but since M.2 latency is lower, real-world usage should be close, if not slightly faster for the M.2 drive.

Current M.2 implementations should be pretty damn good, but far from reaching their theoretical limits, which kinda sucks in a way.
 
Okay, now it's my turn ;):

Legend:

√ already bought or available
□ not bought, decision may change

Ok, now to my actual imaginations:

√ Case: well... i think it will be the NCASE M1 ;P (not arrived yet)
√ Fans: BlackNoise NB-BlackSilentPro, 3x PL-PS, 1x PC-P
√ CPU: Intel i7 4770K
√ CPU Cooler: Noctua C12P S14
√ GPU: Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti (Reference)
√ RAM: G.Skill Ares 2x DDR3 8GB, 1600+ MHz
√ MB: ASUS Maximus VI Impact
√ PSU: SilverStone ST45SF-G
√ HDD: 1x Seagate ST4000DX001 4TB, 1x Samsung 840 Pro 256GB
√ ODD: Panasonic UJ-265

Mostly this is a complete overhaul of my current (slightly old) workstation. The most new components / parts i'll buy mid / late november or when i know if the case is shipped ;).

P.S.

A build log with pictures.. may come!
 
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Well I ended up picking up a gtx 770 last night. Grabbed one at bestbuy since I get employee discount. ended up being $356 before tax but I am still not sure if I want to grab a r9 280x over this. Has anyone found anything close to a blower cooler for that card?
 
Well I ended up picking up a gtx 770 last night. Grabbed one at bestbuy since I get employee discount. ended up being $356 before tax but I am still not sure if I want to grab a r9 280x over this. Has anyone found anything close to a blower cooler for that card?

Inno 3D sells the awesome reference cooler and EVGA also has a blower of their own. Not worth it IMO unless they are much cheaper than aftermarket.
 
I think this may end up my final build. I've never installed an after-market cooler or tried overclocking, but I'm going to give it a shot here. Purchased the video card, monitor, odd, memory, and (of course) case already.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C12P SE14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste
Motherboard: ASRock Z87E-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
√ Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Mushkin Atlas Series 120GB mSATA Solid State Disk
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital Scorpio Black 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
√ Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified SFX12V Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit)
√ Monitor: Dell U2713HM 60Hz 27.0" Monitor
√ Case: NCase M1
√ ODD: Panasonic Slot Load Blu Ray Burner
 
What do you guys think? I still have a i5-2500K running in my System. I could reuse every part of it in the NCase, except CPU-Cooler, PSU (modular Seasonic) and obviously the Mainboard.

So I was thinking about getting a P8Z77-I Deluxe by Asus, because it fits the Noctua NH-C14 and is one of the last Socket1155 Boards with a Z77 available. The PSU choice is obvious, with my running 7870Ghz by XFX the Silverstone 450 SFX is just fine.

I am very uncertain though, if I should really invest in a almost 3year old CPU. Once it stops working, I'd have to get a new Mainboard again. On the other hand, the Haswells aren't that much faster than my i5-2500K, so it is also quite a sum to pay for a CPU only 10-20% faster than my current, especially since I'm on a rather tight budget as I am studying. Should the current CPU fail though, I would've lost even more money in the process.

What do you guys think?
 
just my opinion, but while the 2500k is a fine CPU, there's no way I would invest $150+ in a new itx mobo for it.

Honestly, I would set your ncase off to the side while you save up for a completely new build.
 
Ok here's the deal, I want minimum noise, I tested an sfx psu and I won't stand the noise.
I have a zotac 660ti and it is sufficient for me:
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I made this

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I will choose between Corsair RM650(160mm) and RM750(180mm). I know I don't need that much but I would be in the highest efficiency at full load, fanless (fanless until 40% load) and i will make custom cable length.
I might still place a 120mm fan under it.

Question: Am I dumb/crazy/wanna throw rocks at me?:confused:
 
Inno 3D sells the awesome reference cooler and EVGA also has a blower of their own. Not worth it IMO unless they are much cheaper than aftermarket.
This was an nvidia branded titan cooler gtx 770 so it was priced reasonably but tax kind of killed it. I'm thinking ill return it for now.
 
Ok here's the deal, I want minimum noise, I tested an sfx psu and I won't stand the noise.
I have a zotac 660ti and it is sufficient for me:
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I made this

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I will choose between Corsair RM650(160mm) and RM750(180mm). I know I don't need that much but I would be in the highest efficiency at full load, fanless (fanless until 40% load) and i will make custom cable length.
I might still place a 120mm fan under it.

Question: Am I dumb/crazy/wanna throw rocks at me?:confused:

If your picture is right it might be possible do use a 140mm PSU with a long GPU :D

I´m really worried about noise too
 
It has been said: non modular 140mm psu with long gpu is possible but cable management will be tricky.
 
What do you guys think? I still have a i5-2500K running in my System. I could reuse every part of it in the NCase, except CPU-Cooler, PSU (modular Seasonic) and obviously the Mainboard.

So I was thinking about getting a P8Z77-I Deluxe by Asus, because it fits the Noctua NH-C14 and is one of the last Socket1155 Boards with a Z77 available. The PSU choice is obvious, with my running 7870Ghz by XFX the Silverstone 450 SFX is just fine.

I am very uncertain though, if I should really invest in a almost 3year old CPU. Once it stops working, I'd have to get a new Mainboard again. On the other hand, the Haswells aren't that much faster than my i5-2500K, so it is also quite a sum to pay for a CPU only 10-20% faster than my current, especially since I'm on a rather tight budget as I am studying. Should the current CPU fail though, I would've lost even more money in the process.

What do you guys think?

Need a bit more info. Is there any reason to suspect that your 2500k will "stop working"? What clockrate is it running at and more importantly how much voltage is it using? Cpu's don't fail unless a) they have too much voltage put through them, or b) are run in excess of their thermal limit (and I'm not even talking tjunction, but the actual limit of the silicon) for sustained periods. However the latter is pretty much impossible for modern cpu's as they throttle at around 100c and the silicon won't start to degrade until temps well in excess of that.

So, provided that it's within safe voltage limits it will last for many years, probably decades. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I'd say sell your current motherboard and buy a p8z77-i. The 2500k even at stock speeds is a superb cpu that's amply fast for most current workloads including of course gaming.
 
Need a bit more info. Is there any reason to suspect that your 2500k will "stop working"? What clockrate is it running at and more importantly how much voltage is it using? Cpu's don't fail unless a) they have too much voltage put through them, or b) are run in excess of their thermal limit (and I'm not even talking tjunction, but the actual limit of the silicon) for sustained periods. However the latter is pretty much impossible for modern cpu's as they throttle at around 100c and the silicon won't start to degrade until temps well in excess of that.

So, provided that it's within safe voltage limits it will last for many years, probably decades. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I'd say sell your current motherboard and buy a p8z77-i. The 2500k even at stock speeds is a superb cpu that's amply fast for most current workloads including of course gaming.

Oh, sorry, forgot to mention. :)
I am currently running it on stock speed and voltage with a Scythe Mugen (or Ninja, can't keep them apart, but the CPU stays very cool at low fan speed). Shame on me, but I was too lazy to look up how to overclock newer Intel CPUs and I haven't really had needs for more speed, since I cannot afford a super highend GPU at this moment.

Well, I am aware of a lot of CPUs running and running and running. But I always replaced mine after 2-3 years max. because they were outdated for gaming. Since this isn't the case with this one right now, I might just stick with it. Broadwell looks interesting, Haswell speed at lower comsumption, but I don't want to set aside the M1 until Star Citizen (or other hardware hungry titles) ar released. Especially because I bought it to be able to travel to LAN Parties by public transportation (I live in Switzerland, so everythings around the corner :D)

Thanks for your advice, I appreciate it!
And thank you too, Warden182. :)
 
Well, I am aware of a lot of CPUs running and running and running. But I always replaced mine after 2-3 years max. because they were outdated for gaming. Since this isn't the case with this one right now, I might just stick with it. Broadwell looks interesting, Haswell speed at lower comsumption, but I don't want to set aside the M1 until Star Citizen (or other hardware hungry titles) ar released.

Well, like I said I'd stick with the 2500k. Haswell isn't a great deal faster in most things, and you probably wouldn't notice the difference. The slightly lower power consumption is nice but again it isn't a huge difference. I have owned a 2500k, a 3570k and now have a 4670k, and there isn't much difference between them. My 2500k ran hot, the 3570k used less power and ran cooler than both the 2500k and the 4670k, and I really wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them in most things, and certainly not in gaming or in day-to-day desktop work. In fact the only reason I upgraded to Haswell from Ivy Bridge is because it's faster in Dolphin, a Wii emulator which needs a lot of CPU power.

I'd try and wait until Skylake, unless Broadwell turns out to be really good. If it's ~10% faster clock-for-clock than Haswell and uses less power/runs a lot cooler at the same clocks it would be a nice upgrade from a 2500k. Although how much CPU power future games will require remains to be seen.
 
√ Case: Ncase M1
√ CPU: Intel i7 4770K @ 4.5Ghz
√ CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240m closed loop liquid cooler
√ GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 4GB
√ GPU Cooler: by reference design
√ RAM: Kingston 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz Genesis Kit (might swap this for 2x8GB low profile sticks)
√ MB: ASUS Maximus VI Impact
□ PSU: SilverStone 500-550w SFX (hoping this comes out early next year)
√ HDDs: Toshiba 3TB Internal Hard Drive, Crucial M4 128GB, Samsung Evo 250GB
√ ODD: Panasonic UJ-265
□ Other: some fans for the case

Now someone tell me that will all fit. Worried that I won't be able to fit a 3.5" Hard drive, 2x SSD's AND an optical drive.
 
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Now someone tell me that will all fit. Worried that I won't be able to fit a 3.5" Hard drive, 2x SSD's AND an optical drive.

Not sure about the CPU & GPU coolers, but optical drive will fit in the front (outside area), the 2x 2.5" SSD's will fit in the front (interior area), and the 1x 3.5" will fit either on the bottom near the back (depending upon GPU cooler) or in the side HDD rack (depending upon CPU cooler).

If you're using the stock 290x cooler, I'm pretty sure you'll be fine and at least have that mounting option available for the 3.5" HDD.


EDIT: Not really sure if a 240mm cooler will allow for fitment of 2x SSD or just 1x SSD. Also, def can't mount your 3.5" in side HDD rack using a 240mm cooler, just the bottom.
 
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Almost ready, waiting 4 the case...

√ Asus Maximus VI Impact
√ Intel Core i7 4770k
√ 16gb Corsair Vengeance
√ Grafik: EVGA GTX780 SC + EVGA Backplate
√ SSD: Samsung 840 EVO 500gb
√ HDD: Seagate Laptop Thin SSHD 500gb
√ 3x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPRO PLPS
√ 2x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPRO PL-1
√ Silverstone SST-ST45SF-G V2.0
√ Noctua NH-C14
√ Win7 Ultimate
 
Not sure about the CPU & GPU coolers, but optical drive will fit in the front (outside area), the 2x 2.5" SSD's will fit in the front (interior area), and the 1x 3.5" will fit either on the bottom near the back (depending upon GPU cooler) or in the side HDD rack (depending upon CPU cooler).

If you're using the stock 290x cooler, I'm pretty sure you'll be fine and at least have that mounting option available for the 3.5" HDD.


EDIT: Not really sure if a 240mm cooler will allow for fitment of 2x SSD or just 1x SSD. Also, def can't mount your 3.5" in side HDD rack using a 240mm cooler, just the bottom.

That's the key really, If I can still use the dual SSD mount behind the optical drive bay (front interior) with a 240mm radiator? Anyone tried this yet.
 
My final config:

√ Case: Ncase M1
√ CPU: AMD A10 5800K
√ CPU Cooler: AMD AM3+ heatpipe
√ GPU: MSI R9 270x
√ GPU Cooler: Stock, minus fans
√ RAM: GeIL 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz Black Dragon
√ MB: ASRock FM2A85X-ITX
√ PSU: SilverStone 450w ST45SF-G
√ SSD: 2x OCZ Agility3 120Gb (RAID...2? the fast one)
√ ODD: Panasonic UJ-265
√ Other: Arctic Cooling F12 & F9 PWM fans
 
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Ok, this is my final build, at least for now. I plan on getting a 2.5" HDD with >750GB and 7200rpm, but I'll have to stick with my 3.5" for now. Hope everything will arrive before the LAN I attend this weekend. :)

√ Case: Ncase M1
√ CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K
√ CPU Cooler: Noctua C-14
√ GPU: XFX Radeon 7870 GHz Ed.
√ RAM: 2x4 GB Corsair DDR3-1600, CL9
√ MB: ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe
√ PSU: SilverStone 450w ST45SF-G
√ SSD: Corsair Force3 60GB (System) & 120GB (Games, etc.)
√ HDD: Probably my Caviar Blue 3.5" 1TB, if it fits
√ Fans: 2xCooltek PWM green 120mm. Look good, hope they're rather quiet. Got them for free.
 
I think this may end up my final build. I've never installed an after-market cooler or tried overclocking, but I'm going to give it a shot here. Purchased the video card, monitor, odd, memory, and (of course) case already.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C12P SE14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste
Motherboard: ASRock Z87E-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard
√ Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Mushkin Atlas Series 120GB mSATA Solid State Disk
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital Scorpio Black 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
√ Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified SFX12V Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit)
√ Monitor: Dell U2713HM 60Hz 27.0" Monitor
√ Case: NCase M1
√ ODD: Panasonic Slot Load Blu Ray Burner

I'm worried that there is not enough space for the Noctua NH-C12P SE14 on the AsRock Z87E-ITX. Seeing Phuncz' pictures of the NH-L12, it does seem like you do not have much space before you collide with the top panel.

I myself am thinking about using the NH-L12 in the 'wrong' position with the heatpipes facing upwards. And given this works, then I wonder if I might be able to squeeze in a NH-C14 instead with that positioning. Any comments on this?
 
I'm worried that there is not enough space for the Noctua NH-C12P SE14 on the AsRock Z87E-ITX. Seeing Phuncz' pictures of the NH-L12, it does seem like you do not have much space before you collide with the top panel.

I myself am thinking about using the NH-L12 in the 'wrong' position with the heatpipes facing upwards. And given this works, then I wonder if I might be able to squeeze in a NH-C14 instead with that positioning. Any comments on this?

Honestly, I don't know. I know nothing about cooling components, so I have no preferences. And given that I don't really know what I'm doing, I'm going to wait to hear whether AFD is successful installing it before trying it myself. I figure the odds are better than 50/50 that I end up sending it back to Newegg.

But other than that, I finished up the rest of my purchases this morning, so everything will be ready and waiting for the M1!

√ CPU: Intel i5-4670K
√ CPU Cooler: NH-C12P SE14 (or perhaps just the retail stock cooler)
√ GPU: EVGA GTX 780 SC (reference cooler)
√ RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB DDR2-1600
√ MB: ASRock Z87E
√ PSU: SilverStone 450w ST45SF-G
√ SSD: Crucial M500 120GB mSATA
√ HDD: WD Scorpio Black 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM
√ ODD: Panasonic slot load blu-ray
□ Case: Ncase M1
 
Is it really worth it for the gold ST45SF? I plan on using all but one cable. The gold model isn't any quieter and doesn't deliver anymore power, so I'm wondering if it's worth the 47% increase in price for a little more efficiency. Am I missing something here?
 
Is it really worth it for the gold ST45SF? I plan on using all but one cable. The gold model isn't any quieter and doesn't deliver anymore power, so I'm wondering if it's worth the 47% increase in price for a little more efficiency. Am I missing something here?

It does deliver more power. The bronze will cut out almost exactly at 36 amps, whereas the gold can reach 44 amps and stay stable. See http://www.chiphell.com/article-4711-5.html
 
Honestly, I don't know. I know nothing about cooling components, so I have no preferences. And given that I don't really know what I'm doing, I'm going to wait to hear whether AFD is successful installing it before trying it myself. I figure the odds are better than 50/50 that I end up sending it back to Newegg.

But other than that, I finished up the rest of my purchases this morning, so everything will be ready and waiting for the M1!

√ CPU: Intel i5-4670K
√ CPU Cooler: NH-C12P SE14 (or perhaps just the retail stock cooler)
√ GPU: EVGA GTX 780 SC (reference cooler)
√ RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB DDR2-1600
√ MB: ASRock Z87E
√ PSU: SilverStone 450w ST45SF-G
√ SSD: Crucial M500 120GB mSATA
√ HDD: WD Scorpio Black 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM
√ ODD: Panasonic slot load blu-ray
□ Case: Ncase M1

Okay, good to hear. I'll also just wait patiently then, as I don't really know what I am doing either. My build is just very similar to yours, and I still have not decided on the cooler.
 
Honestly, I don't know. I know nothing about cooling components, so I have no preferences. And given that I don't really know what I'm doing, I'm going to wait to hear whether AFD is successful installing it before trying it myself. I figure the odds are better than 50/50 that I end up sending it back to Newegg.

I'll be using my Noctua C12 on an ASUS board (Z87i-Deluxe/pro), which should have a different socket placement in comparison to the EVGA, ASRock & Gigabyte boards (Phuncz posted a bunch of pictures in the main thread a few days back showing the different socket placements).

One of the biggest reasons I went for the ASUS/Noctua combo is that Necere seemed pretty confident that the C12 would stay within the confines of the ASUS board and fit the M1 properly (at least in 1 orientation, as shown on their website).

EDIT: Here's Phuncz' post with pictures showing socket location on the various ITX mainboards..

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040359900&postcount=7056

And this is Necere's post from today, discussing the fitment of C12 & C14 coolers on the ASRock board, that may be helpful..

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040370311&postcount=7348
 
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It does deliver more power. The bronze will cut out almost exactly at 36 amps, whereas the gold can reach 44 amps and stay stable. See http://www.chiphell.com/article-4711-5.html
Interesting. It shows that this "overload" is only possible on 220V sources, so that might explain why some people have not the same stable experience with this PSU in high load tests.

Good to know that this PSU can supply over 500W on the 12V line when needed :D
 
I'll be using my Noctua C12 on an ASUS board (Z87i-Deluxe/pro), which should have a different socket placement in comparison to the EVGA, ASRock & Gigabyte boards (Phuncz posted a bunch of pictures in the main thread a few days back showing the different socket placements).

One of the biggest reasons I went for the ASUS/Noctua combo is that Necere seemed pretty confident that the C12 would stay within the confines of the ASUS board and fit the M1 properly (at least in 1 orientation, as shown on their website).

EDIT: Here's Phuncz' post with pictures showing socket location on the various ITX mainboards..

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040359900&postcount=7056

And this is Necere's post from today, discussing the fitment of C12 & C14 coolers on the ASRock board, that may be helpful..

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040370311&postcount=7348

Thanks for the heads up. I've responded in that thread.
 
Another who joined the forum because of this project. I got my tracking number today and it's all becoming real now... pretty exciting! Here's my plan:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe
RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 8GB (2 x 4GB)
GPU: ASUS GTX 670 Mini
PSU: Silverstone ST45SF-G
SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB
HDD: WD Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" (although I might not if it's a hassle to fit)
Optical: None
Cooling: I bought the FrozenQ reservoir, but will wait on the rest (CPU block, pump, radiator, tubing and fittings) until I get the case
Other: 1x120mm fan at the bottom, next to the HDD, Lian Li 3 Fan Rheobus Speed Controller in 3rd PCI slot

This is my first attempt at custom water cooling, so it will be an adventure :). Once the case arrives I'll put everything in and then start planning the loop. At that point I'll update with some pictures and what I'm thinking about getting. Water cooling the video card will come later down the road, when I have the money to buy a new video card. I'm looking forward to seeing what everyone else does with theirs!
 
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I'm really still on the fence. I was really gun-ho on 4770K/Impact, but with the m.2 slot being shit and the overall cost being high, I'm considering a cheaper 4670k solution. I'm hoping the MSI gaming mobo comes in cheap(er) with a good feature set.

In the meantime I've setup an old i3 540 system with my existing GTX680 and H220/Samsung 840 Pro that was bought for this case... it's been running surprisingly well. I might hold off until the summer refresh.
 
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I'm really still on the fence. I was really gun-ho on 4770K/Impact, but with the m.2 slot being shit and the overall cost being high, I'm considering a cheaper 4670k solution.

And what gave you the idea that the M.2 slot is a con? The only drawback I've seen for NGFF is a relative scarcity of affordable drives.
 
And what gave you the idea that the M.2 slot is a con? The only drawback I've seen for NGFF is a relative scarcity of affordable drives.

The M.2 slot on the ROG boards provide no additional bandwidth over mSata or traditional Sata3 interfaces. Combined witht the current tiny supply of M.2 SSDs I would say it is a disadvantage. I have the board and I intend on having the M.2 drive be my primary, if not only, drive. Hopefully when the NCASE hits the USA mid December we will have more options - and ones that are not over priced!
 
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Impact
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Elite 2X8GB 1866CL9
GPU: Powercolor R9 290
PSU: TBD
SSD: Samsung Evo 500 MB
HDD: Seagate 1TB Hybrid (not purchased yet)
Optical: None
Cooling:Swiftech H220+EK R9 Clear/Plexi
 
Yea, it should fit, necere's renders show him him using an ek block, the 290 has to go on water, otherwise the fan gets unbearable. Plays my bench PSU gets coil whine, hoping a single rail PSU will alleviate that.

Go to page 148 of the ncase thread
 
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The M.2 slot on the ROG boards provide no additional bandwidth over mSata or traditional Sata3 interfaces. Combined witht the current tiny supply of M.2 SSDs I would say it is a disadvantage. I have the board and I intend on having the M.2 drive be my primary, if not only, drive. Hopefully when the NCASE hits the USA mid December we will have more options - and ones that are not over priced!

I just went a bought an 840 Pro, lets me build now with current parts and buy any Z87 mobo i want when the time is right. Hopefully for the next PC I build, M.2 will be ready for prime time.
 
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