Dark Souls is on Steam

This game is so bloody addictive. I had a sick day from work yesterday so I probaby played a good 5 or more hours (I usually never have time to get that much gaming in 1 day). I fought Orenstein and Smough about 4 times (placed my coop sign down while I was soul farming) I fought Bed of Chaos, Grave Lord Nito, The Four Kings and also the first 2 bosses of the Artorias content.

I had an eventful day :)
 
Majinhoju said:
This game is so bloody addictive. I had a sick day from work yesterday so I probaby played a good 5 or more hours (I usually never have time to get that much gaming in 1 day). I fought Orenstein and Smough about 4 times (placed my coop sign down while I was soul farming) I fought Bed of Chaos, Grave Lord Nito, The Four Kings and also the first 2 bosses of the Artorias content.

I had an eventful day :)
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how many times did you die? of those times, how many did you lose your humanity and souls?

I still have trouble with this. I'll play for 20 minutes, having fun, getting sucked in, then I'll die. No problem right? i'll just go get my stain. Invariably some stupid shit happens and I die again. I want to see the rest of the game but i have a feeling this blighttown bullshit is going to be the last memory i have of DS :(

Maybe i just suck at this game, but for awhile there i was rocking and making good progress before hitting this brick wall.
 
chockomonkey said:
how many times did you die? of those times, how many did you lose your humanity and souls?

I still have trouble with this. I'll play for 20 minutes, having fun, getting sucked in, then I'll die. No problem right? i'll just go get my stain. Invariably some stupid shit happens and I die again. I want to see the rest of the game but i have a feeling this blighttown bullshit is going to be the last memory i have of DS :(

Maybe i just suck at this game, but for awhile there i was rocking and making good progress before hitting this brick wall.
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Surprisingly, I think I only died once or twice yesterday (can't remember exactly, lol) and it was from falling in a hole (only lost 30k souls), haha. I didn't die to any of the bosses. I'm still on my first play through on this character and I'm a very high level for it (level 108) with upgraded gear which probably explains why I'm not dying.
 
chockomonkey said:
how many times did you die? of those times, how many did you lose your humanity and souls?

I still have trouble with this. I'll play for 20 minutes, having fun, getting sucked in, then I'll die. No problem right? i'll just go get my stain. Invariably some stupid shit happens and I die again. I want to see the rest of the game but i have a feeling this blighttown bullshit is going to be the last memory i have of DS :(

Maybe i just suck at this game, but for awhile there i was rocking and making good progress before hitting this brick wall.
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Make it to the bottom bonfire in Blighttown and you'll be fine. Just go slow and wait for enemies to get into vulnerable positions. Don't fight in cramped or dangerous areas. Don't be afraid of just waiting for enemies to come to you or fall to their deaths.

If you miss the rest of the game, that would suck. There is so much cool stuff past where you are now (which is like 20% into the game).
 
chockomonkey said:
how many times did you die? of those times, how many did you lose your humanity and souls?

I still have trouble with this. I'll play for 20 minutes, having fun, getting sucked in, then I'll die. No problem right? i'll just go get my stain. Invariably some stupid shit happens and I die again. I want to see the rest of the game but i have a feeling this blighttown bullshit is going to be the last memory i have of DS :(

Maybe i just suck at this game, but for awhile there i was rocking and making good progress before hitting this brick wall.
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Also, are you still taking the route from the depths? The valley of drakes route is shorter and easier journey.
 
For me, Blighttown was the area when the game got a little easier...at least once I made it to the bottom campfire. The early part was a total bitch, though.
In my first pass I struggled early, but found the sewers to be pretty easy. Early Blighttown was tough, but it got easier at the bottom. Sen's wasn't too bad, but Anor Londo might be the most unforgiving part of the whole damned game. Later areas weren't horrible, but the Tomb of Giants forces you to go very, very slowly.
 
chockomonkey said:
I still have trouble with this. I'll play for 20 minutes, having fun, getting sucked in, then I'll die. No problem right? i'll just go get my stain. Invariably some stupid shit happens and I die again. I want to see the rest of the game but i have a feeling this blighttown bullshit is going to be the last memory i have of DS :(

Maybe i just suck at this game, but for awhile there i was rocking and making good progress before hitting this brick wall.
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take a break from Blighttown and go to some other area to level up and build up your weapons...Darkroot is a good place to go...enemies not too tough...you can deal with the Hydra mini-boss and Moonlight Butterfly...look at a YouTube video and take the shortcut path through Blighttown...there's an easier path but you have to know it beforehand otherwise it's difficult to see
 
BTW, what level are you now choko? I may have a character close enough in level to help you out if you want. I think I have a STR build around level 40-50. I can run Blighttown in my sleep.
 
polonyc2 said:
take a break from Blighttown and go to some other area to level up and build up your weapons...Darkroot is a good place to go...enemies not too tough...you can deal with the Hydra mini-boss and Moonlight Butterfly...look at a YouTube video and take the shortcut path through Blighttown...there's an easier path but you have to know it beforehand otherwise it's difficult to see
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I agree with this. In fact that should be your MO with Dark Souls.
If you reach an area that you cannot beat, then you are probably not ready to go there. Go somewhere else, take another path. What may happen is you will end up finding a different way in after going through a completely different area, which may be easier anyway, since you will probably be stronger when you get there. Thats how I really got in Blighttown. I was too weak to make it through the Valley entrance, went somewhere else, eventually found the depths and made it to the 2nd entrance of Blighttown. But do you know what I went through to make it there? 3 boss fights and maybe 30 levels(Grinded a little in the forest). Yup, ready for action.
 
polonyc2 said:
take a break from Blighttown and go to some other area to level up and build up your weapons...Darkroot is a good place to go...enemies not too tough...you can deal with the Hydra mini-boss and Moonlight Butterfly...look at a YouTube video and take the shortcut path through Blighttown...there's an easier path but you have to know it beforehand otherwise it's difficult to see
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I've tried this before, but to no avail. I could not see any discernable way to kill the Hydra nor the Butterfly.

In order to hit the Hydra it seems i have to go into the water where i can't move very quickly. As such i die after a few swings. Trying to kill that boss with a bow would take a loooooooong time.

The buttery is a similar story. People say you can dodge the magic missiles, but no matter how many times i try, i always eat them all and die. I also can't seem to find this summon thing someone mentioned where i can have an npc help me.

Maybe it's just time for a walkthrough now. Or perhaps I haven't spent my souls wisely. I have a few +5 weapons and only a +1 helm (gargoyle).
Majinhoju said:
Also, are you still taking the route from the depths? The valley of drakes route is shorter and easier journey.
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Yea i have been because i'm at the top bonfire. Y'all told me about the Valley entrance after i was already down here and it's a long trek back up.
LeninGHOLA said:
BTW, what level are you now choko? I may have a character close enough in level to help you out if you want. I think I have a STR build around level 40-50. I can run Blighttown in my sleep.
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I'm 39 now, and appreciate the offer. But I really don't want help to pass this stuff. The previous enjoyment i was getting was because I was able to conquer tough shit. This stuff just seems gimmicky. Granted though, because of how you upgrade items in this game my character has become very narrow-minded. I used to swap weapons and spell combos all the time to beat different things, but now I only have Katanas upgraded, so that's what i use.
 
There are too many nice items on the way down to the bottom for you to completely skip that side of Blighttown. It's the hardest route by a long shot, but very much worth it. Keep in mind there are torches by every ladder.

You could do the hard side later on, if you wanted to trek back. The valley entrance is a great deal easier.

Try a shorter weapon. The uchi may be too long to be safe going down that side, until you get used to things.
 
chockomonkey said:
In order to hit the Hydra it seems i have to go into the water where i can't move very quickly. As such i die after a few swings. Trying to kill that boss with a bow would take a loooooooong time.

The buttery is a similar story. People say you can dodge the magic missiles, but no matter how many times i try, i always eat them all and die. I also can't seem to find this summon thing someone mentioned where i can have an npc help me.

Maybe it's just time for a walkthrough now. Or perhaps I haven't spent my souls wisely. I have a few +5 weapons and only a +1 helm (gargoyle).
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Dont forget how big this game is, there are items you havent gotten and areas you havent seen. There are specific places in the game where liquid slows you down. You will find a ring to negate that. The hydra isnt that important right now, go kill the Butterfly. A significant upgrade is won from that battle.

That said... Fog door of the Butterfly, at the very bottom of those stairs. There will be a bush/brush, slice it down and crawl under the stairs. You don't really need to crawl under it, but thats where her summon sign is. Don't forget to be human.
 
chockomonkey said:
I've tried this before, but to no avail. I could not see any discernable way to kill the Hydra nor the Butterfly.

In order to hit the Hydra it seems i have to go into the water where i can't move very quickly. As such i die after a few swings. Trying to kill that boss with a bow would take a loooooooong time.

The buttery is a similar story. People say you can dodge the magic missiles, but no matter how many times i try, i always eat them all and die. I also can't seem to find this summon thing someone mentioned where i can have an npc help me.

Maybe it's just time for a walkthrough now. Or perhaps I haven't spent my souls wisely. I have a few +5 weapons and only a +1 helm (gargoyle)
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skip the Hydra boss until you get the Rusted Iron Ring...makes a big difference in terms of movement in water and other tough surfaces...the Rusted Ring will also be a HUGE help in the Blighttown swamps...as far as Moonlight Butterfly, like LeviathanZero said, use the summon sign for Witch Beatrice...she makes the fight really easy...let her do her thing and stand at a distance...wait until the Butterfly lands and 2-hand it...with Beatrice that fight is easy

use YouTube for boss fight strategies...that way you won't get spoiled as far as a complete walkthrough but more of a guide for specific enemies
 
Isaac Newton said:
If I have seen so far it is because I stand upon the shoulders of giants.
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You really should ask for help, Dark Souls was intended to be a co-operative experience (hence the orange guidance soapstone and white summoning stone).
 
...there are also places you can stand where you don't necessarily have to be in the water with the hydra...
It won't work in both versions of that battle, but I'd suggest surveying the terrain near that battle before trying to kill the hydra.
One of the things about Dark Souls is that most battles tend to have a straight forward "hard way" and a way that seems like a borderline exploit. Don't be afraid to go for the exploit route. The game gives you the same rewards/result either way.
 
The hydra is pretty easy once you figure him out. The rusted iron ring helps with water. General idea is to have a high stability shield, run at a diagonal to the water. He has two moves, the mist and the head slams. Mist will occur unless you are about 1/2 way to the drop point in the water. Once he commits to action you back up with shield up. He slams, you attack. Each head will only need a couple of whacks. Upgraded crossbow makes the fight fairly easy, you can lock on and get in about 4 bolts between attacks. After killing a few heads in the center you can take your time as they will no longer hit you. A bow makes the last head easy as it will always be over water.
 
I FINALLY started playing this game for real. The controls for KB/M are shitty...I think I used them initially and that's partially why I didn't like the game. Using the controller is pretty much required for the precision in movement that you need in this game.

Did some exploit-y things like sniping the Red Dragon tail to get the Drake Sword, and killing Havel by luring him to the arch he can't pass through and whacking away slowly. Also killed the Black Knight guy in a similar way. So I'm fairly set for awhile...I think I'd get too pissed and give up otherwise, lol.
 
I don't think the dragon tail is an exploit, seemed like something put in place to give you the sword if you figured it out, don't think the dragon would be allowed to be hit or do his animation otherwise.
 
Yeah, the tail isn't really an exploit...but it's almost certainly something most people wouldn't find on their own. It takes a boatload of arrows and it's kind of hard to tell if they're actually accomplishing much. I think of it as an easter egg more than an exploit.
Plus, it's Dark Souls. Everything seems to feel like an exploit, but I have a feeling the devs were VERY deliberate about giving people as many approaches as possible.
 
I decided to ditch my fast roll and equip havel's set for now (with mask of the child for stamina regen). I'm just under half equipment load so i still have some speed and the poise makes all the difference in pvp. before I would get stunned with each hit I receive and get slaughtered. Now I can keep swinging my uchigatana like a madman and land way more hits :D

I'm going to try leveling up a couple other dex weapons to see how they go.
 
Poordevil said:
I can get past that big sliver knight on the ledge in Anor Londo.
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can or can't? I get past those 2 with the help of a summoned phantom. He would take the left while I would take the right at the same time, holding up a big shield to block the arrows.
 
If you can't get past the Silver Knight archers, there's always poison arrows.
 
Poordevil said:
I can get past that big sliver knight on the ledge in Anor Londo.
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that dude was a pita at first but now he's pretty easy...you're talking about the part where you have to run across that path with those 2 archers firing arrows at you right?...you need to holster all your weapons...2 hand your most stable shield and run up close to the guy on the right...parry until he falls of the ledge...you don't even really need to parry much, just stay close to him and block until he falls
 
polonyc2 said:
that dude was a pita at first but now he's pretty easy...you're talking about the part where you have to run across that path with those 2 archers firing arrows at you right?...you need to holster all your weapons...2 hand your most stable shield and run up close to the guy on the right...parry until he falls of the ledge...you don't even really need to parry much, just stay close to him and block until he falls
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Sometimes you can roll past him if you have medium or fast roll and can roll with good enough timing. Shield blocking more then often not leads me to get knocked off the platforms or shot in the back.
 
sculelos said:
Sometimes you can roll past him if you have medium or fast roll and can roll with good enough timing. Shield blocking more then often not leads me to get knocked off the platforms or shot in the back.
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when you get up close to the archer on the right, the guy on the left can't reach you with his arrows...if you back up or stay in the middle of that area then the guy on the left will hit you in the back...the key is to get right in the face of the archer on the right...rolling would be tough because there is almost no room
 
polonyc2 said:
when you get up close to the archer on the right, the guy on the left can't reach you with his arrows...if you back up or stay in the middle of that area then the guy on the left will hit you in the back...the key is to get right in the face of the archer on the right...rolling would be tough because there is almost no room
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This.

Sometimes he just wont fall off. That guy really is a pain in the ass. This should work, 99% of the time...
 
LeviathanZERO said:
Sometimes he just wont fall off. That guy really is a pain in the ass. This should work, 99% of the time...
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I hear you can also run up to the guy on the right...wait for him to pull out his sword and then run back down that path you came from...he follows you down...then you can fight him without having to worry about the 2nd archer or falling off that narrow ledge
 
Ran into something new today. Had an invader spawn in the Darkroot forest, but he had a bunch of the bush enemies following him. When he attacked them I got hurt even though he wasn't hitting me, or even near me. Needless to say I was killed quickly with no chance to retaliate. I'm also missing my white sign soapstone from my inventory after that fight...

I really hope they concentrate on techniques for verifying client data in the DSII's MP.
 
Ryom said:
Ran into something new today. Had an invader spawn in the Darkroot forest, but he had a bunch of the bush enemies following him. When he attacked them I got hurt even though he wasn't hitting me, or even near me. Needless to say I was killed quickly with no chance to retaliate. I'm also missing my white sign soapstone from my inventory after that fight...

I really hope they concentrate on techniques for verifying client data in the DSII's MP.
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my worst hacker encounter...

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1039920306&postcount=2070
 
That was suppose to be can't not can, it was a typo. Haven't tried again since I made the post. Must have tried 30 times. I came close a couple of times, but I eventually fell off the ledge. Poison arrows might be a good solution. Usually he shoots me right off the ledge before I even reach him. Tried heavier armor and a steadier shield with more poise but he would still one shot me off the ledge.
 
Roll under the arrow and kick him off. Sometimes you just gotta dodge. Unless you have Havel's shield... then you can block about anything :p
 
I've put quite a few hours in and I'm starting to come to the conclusion that this just isn't my kind of game. It's clearly not a bad game, but I don't really find the "trial and error" style of gameplay very rewarding. A very large portion of your time in this game is spent running back from the last fire you sat at to the place where you are trying to get to after being killed. Just doesn't seem like a good use of my time.
 
MavericK96 said:
I've put quite a few hours in and I'm starting to come to the conclusion that this just isn't my kind of game. It's clearly not a bad game, but I don't really find the "trial and error" style of gameplay very rewarding. A very large portion of your time in this game is spent running back from the last fire you sat at to the place where you are trying to get to after being killed. Just doesn't seem like a good use of my time.
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Stop getting killed. :)

If the area is too hard, you are probably too weak and should level up.
A great place to do it is fighting the Forest Hunters and running back to the hidden bonfire. (20k souls per pass?, something like that...)
Level up, whoop ass.

Or just git betta :p

Remember, this is an RPG. Good use of your time isn't a factor or you wouldn't be here. Get to grinding and explore!
 
MavericK96 said:
I've put quite a few hours in and I'm starting to come to the conclusion that this just isn't my kind of game. It's clearly not a bad game, but I don't really find the "trial and error" style of gameplay very rewarding. A very large portion of your time in this game is spent running back from the last fire you sat at to the place where you are trying to get to after being killed. Just doesn't seem like a good use of my time.
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you can bypass most enemies along the way from the bonfire to your last kill point so it won't be as tedious...if you've never played any of the Souls games then Dark Souls takes some time to appreciate...I hated it in the beginning and nearly quit many times...once it clicks though, most people love it...for me it happened around the half way point (Anor Londo) where things started to make sense and I wasn't totally lost and confused as to the mechanics and gameplay...one of the best games I've ever played
 
Ryom said:
Roll under the arrow and kick him off. Sometimes you just gotta dodge. Unless you have Havel's shield... then you can block about anything :p
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you don't get that until after that section. and a greatbow would be more useful, you can knock both their asses off the ledges
 
New Game+ and you can have a friend drop Havel's shield for you in coop before that spot if they have it, I actually had a complete stranger (an invader no less!) drop a complete +10 Elite Knight Armor set for me on my first play through... totally out of the blue!

Also, I didn't mean that he should use Havel's shield for that part, but rather that Havel's Shield almost negates the need to dodge (qualifying the first part of my statement). Something that can be said for very few other shields (only Black Knight shield versus fire and Bloodshield comes to mind).


polonyc2 said:
you can bypass most enemies along the way from the bonfire to your last kill point so it won't be as tedious...if you've never played any of the Souls games then Dark Souls takes some time to appreciate...I hated it in the beginning and nearly quit many times...once it clicks though, most people love it...for me it happened around the half way point (Anor Londo) where things started to make sense and I wasn't totally lost and confused as to the mechanics and gameplay...one of the best games I've ever played
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Also you can load up on "Rings of Sacrifice" from the merchant that appears after you beat the gargoyles in the bell tower if you don't like that particular aspect of the game. Lose nothing when you die.
 
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