Dota 2 Official Thread

Yeah, Ohmna is on the right track. The only downside is that you have to enter it every time you start the game. you might as well just finish the tutorial.

I believe the actual command is dota_full_ui 1
 
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Trying really hard to like this game but I'm not sure. Definitely hate skeleton king as a champ. Having a hard time coming over from LoL. Mainly I think it's that LoL's item interface is vastly superior. I get confused by dota's.
 
Dota definitely has some crazy learning curves. But that creates some great replay value because of how much depth it has. Many veteran players has been playing since it came out many years go.

I only have 600+ wins, not quite enough to give some pro tips. But I am learning new things that help my team to win the match everyday, in pubs. Something such as saving your gold during mid game, usually as a carry. Because in some cases, you would be needed to focus on farming, therefore avoiding team fight. Saving the gold can let you counter pick a late game item that would give you more advantage in team fight. Same as picking last in all pick games, you will get a pretty good advantage if you counter pick.
 
To anyone playing who has less than 500 games played I suggest watching some of the International 3 tournament. I've been playing since Dota 1 patch 3.xx and I learned a ton just by watching several matches. Wish I had watched the pros earlier lol.
 
HeavensCloud said:
To anyone playing who has less than 500 games played I suggest watching some of the International 3 tournament. I've been playing since Dota 1 patch 3.xx and I learned a ton just by watching several matches. Wish I had watched the pros earlier lol.
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Yeah, my friends and I just started playing dota a couple months ago. We've been watching TI3 and it's amazing how different the play styles are from our noob styles. We definitely don't do enough warding and rune control, though the noobs we play against don't do those things either.

Anyway, some crazy good games so far. That comeback by Na'Vi was amazing, though it was probably largely possible by Orange's screw up with the aegis.
 
watching some is what got me to start playing, played some LoL but not a ton.

Viper down mid and support, i love him!!! 2nd game with 10 people. Now to stop dieing so much

Been using this guide as my base for everything

http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/guide/the-best-offense-is-a-good-defense-4945#chapter5

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I loved being a tank in LoL but though i would try some ranged classes in Dota 2.
 
more i play viper the more i like it, some builds are slow to start but once i get to about lvl 7 or 8 things start going well
 
ya, seems i just did it

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early on i can get taken out easy by sniper if the person is decent and some others, but i find around lvl 7-8 is when i start to shine.,
 
MrGuvernment said:
ya, seems i just did it

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early on i can get taken out easy by sniper if the person is decent and some others, but i find around lvl 7-8 is when i start to shine.,
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nice. hes a good character to learn some fundamentals and some carry basics. there are some other really good ranged carries you should try out. storm spirit is one of my favorites.
 
Honestly it is a lot easier to get started these days than it was in the past. You can play limited hero selection mode against people or against bots and probably be matched with people at the beginner level. In the past, you just got thrown into the fire and face stomped.
 
dremic said:
nice. hes a good character to learn some fundamentals and some carry basics. there are some other really good ranged carries you should try out. storm spirit is one of my favorites.
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Awesome will try them out, i need to learn other classes, couple last games i am just getting stomped on by ones like skeleton king and such..
 
Hi, I'm brand new to DOTA2, but liking it so far.

I've been playing Limited heroes until I get sort of used to all of those. So far I enjoyed playing Warlock and Sand King the most. I like how you can heal yourself with Warlock and hide away using Sandstorm on SK in the early game. I've also used practice matches to get used to shift-blinking for the SK ultimate.

To be honest I have no intention of becoming good. Just playing the game casually is enough for me. Hearing people here say they have little experience yet have 600 wins makes me shudder. So when are you an experienced DOTA player? 6000 wins? 60000 wins? I have to check my schedule, but I don't think I have 4000 hours available to become an experienced DOTA player. ;)

The worst part so far is the matchmaking. I don't mind being tiered against players obviously way better than I, but it's dissapointing when suddenly a bunch of people disconnect; both on the opposing team as on mine. Getting an early abandonment after waiting 4+ minutes to find a match isn't that great either. There was one game where I ended up playing 2vs5, or maybe even 1vs5. I was basically alone.

You really need to take your time for this game. An hour really is the minimum for a match, between waiting 5 minutes, choosing heroes and the actual match itself.
 
I finally got to play this again after a couple of months off due to moving. I'm looking forward to play this more often now. Hopefully some of you I used to play with are still in the game (I promise not to play dumb).

The game requires patience to both play and master. You need to know when to engage, when to not engage, when to charge into a tower, and when to run like hell. When in doubt, stay back. It's better to not be risky and live than to die needlessly (it only helps your enemies). It's also good to know what heroes are easy to play as and which require more skill.

This game also requires teamwork. You want your carries to get the kills, because the sooner they get fed, the sooner you win. If you're a support hero, you don't really want to be stealing kills, because the money means more to a carry than a support hero. You also need to communicate with your team. If you notice the enemy isn't visible in your lane, tell your team.

I personally think that to get out of the "newb" skill level requires the basic understanding of warding, rune control and map awareness. The next level requires counter-warding skills, micromanagement, time management and item mastery.
 
I just started playing Dota2 a few days ago. Played it during the beta, but got frustrated. The tutorial helped a lot. I felt like I knew what I was doing, until I played my first match against humans. :eek:

I really like the Death Prophet, but die quickly to the bad guys.
 
DP is a good hero to learn with. She's fast, has a good nuke, and her ult does damage and heals you when it's over. Your goal for awhile should really be to limit your deaths. Stay close to a teammate if you can, and never push too far from one of your towers alone. Read some guides and watch some replays of other Death Prophet players.
 
Pezzy said:
DP is a good hero to learn with. She's fast, has a good nuke, and her ult does damage and heals you when it's over. Your goal for awhile should really be to limit your deaths. Stay close to a teammate if you can, and never push too far from one of your towers alone. Read some guides and watch some replays of other Death Prophet players.
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Yeah, the limiting dying is a priority.

I've been reading guides. I have learned that one of the problems I'm having staying alive is due to the lack of proper equipment.
 
I don't play as much as I used to but if ppl are looking to play you can look me up. SteamID Validz from IL.
 
I have played 5 games and after last night I am deleting it. An asian player was using the Drow(?) and while everyone else was level 12-14, he was lvl 24. His character was doing 500+ regular damage per hit attacks against my tide hunter. So either a)the fuck was cheating, or b) the game isn't balanced, either way it can suck a dick.
 
darkstarcow said:
I have played 5 games and after last night I am deleting it. An asian player was using the Drow(?) and while everyone else was level 12-14, he was lvl 24. His character was doing 500+ regular damage per hit attacks against my tide hunter. So either a)the fuck was cheating, or b) the game isn't balanced, either way it can suck a dick.
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loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

i dont even... i.. just wow.




dota is pretty much the most well balanced game of all time thanks to icefrog. its how it grew to become so successful. and there is not cheating.


drow is a carry, its likely you fed him or your team did. dying to carries is bad, free farming carries are going to eat you up, no deaths on carries also bad. these will add up to you being squashed.
 
The phases of playing dota:

1)Oh what is this game?
2)This game is ok I guess....
3) This game is fucking bullshit
4) I cannot stop thinking about dota
5) A dota player is born.

:)
 
darkstarcow said:
I have played 5 games and after last night I am deleting it. An asian player was using the Drow(?) and while everyone else was level 12-14, he was lvl 24. His character was doing 500+ regular damage per hit attacks against my tide hunter. So either a)the fuck was cheating, or b) the game isn't balanced, either way it can suck a dick.
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I laughed.
 
The problem is that often in pubs, you'll know the carry is farming, but nobody will do anything to stop it. You'll have your own carry either farming and not helping, or just being stupid and dying, while the rest of your team is unorganized. Or you will have the one enemy farming the jungle, and your team won't gank him.

But the absolute worst is when you're playing on a US server, and none of your teammates speak english.
 
dota is pretty much the most well balanced game of all time thanks to icefrog.
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The fuck it is. Get back to me with they fix broke dick Lifestealer and Phantom Lancer.

There are a few more heroes too. Just was competitive play and when you see the same heroes picked or banned every game.... yeah the fuck it is balanced.
 
XvMMvX said:
The fuck it is. Get back to me with they fix broke dick Lifestealer and Phantom Lancer.

There are a few more heroes too. Just was competitive play and when you see the same heroes picked or banned every game.... yeah the fuck it is balanced.
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that doesnt mean the game isnt balanced haha. some heroes are simply higher tier than others.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xVhGGEUqE90Ogqdjw_6NzzQ2FsQa4WMywz5alUlrylo/pub

and even that changes.

every hero in the game is counterable. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

dota = balanced as fuck.

you are used to pugs im sure. that means bad people feeding carries and making them seem inbalanced. if you watch the competitive matches youll notice that those heroes even when the y dont get banned can get stomped.
 
Its really 100% skill based. Certain heroes are "too strong" every patch but its hard to say definitively which heroes those are.

Me and my friends have a 100% winrate with 5-melee garbage like Tusk/Centaur/Alch/Naga/Troll (okay troll isn't really melee). Its about coordination and teamwork.

Lifestealer is only dumb because he invalidates certain magic-based heroes. That doesn't really make him OP, plus there are item counters to him etc.

Phantom Lancer is actually very weak since all you have to do is contest him properly OR pick a counter-hero (splash based in general) OR push early. None of which are too tough. Pro teams don't really pick that guy anymore.

I really laughed at that poor guy who got wrecked by drow though haha. Feelsbadman.
 
darkstarcow said:
I have played 5 games and after last night I am deleting it. An asian player was using the Drow(?) and while everyone else was level 12-14, he was lvl 24. His character was doing 500+ regular damage per hit attacks against my tide hunter. So either a)the fuck was cheating, or b) the game isn't balanced, either way it can suck a dick.
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Ignore for a fact that 5 games really doesn't give you a breadth of experience:

"Oh man, I played 5 matches on Battlefield 3, and I can say, without a doubt, that vehicles are totally fucking broken."

"Oh man, I played 5 matches in Counter Strike, the AWP is fucking OP."

"I played 5 matches of Starcraft, Zergling rushes are fucking bullshit."

If everyone else was 12-14, and the Drow was at 24, there's only 1 way that can happen: Drow farmed creeps unrestricted and was able buy strong items early. You let Drow, a carry, get really big, and then she snowballed and wasted your entire team.
 
Gooch3008 said:
The phases of playing dota:

1)Oh what is this game?
2)This game is ok I guess....
3) This game is fucking bullshit
4) I cannot stop thinking about dota
5) A dota player is born.

:)
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From my limited experience, this is pretty much the way it goes. However, I got to stage 3, and even got a bit of stage 4, but I don't think I want to put in the work (and yes, I do think it is work, not fun) to get to stage 5. I will probably fire it up every once in a while and play against/with bots, but I know I'll never invest them time to become a decent DOTA2 player. It's not worth it to me. There are games that I can get more enjoyment out of with much less time invested. Hell, even iRacing and IL-2 have less steep learning curves than DOTA2 IMO.
 
darkstarcow said:
I have played 5 games and after last night I am deleting it. An asian player was using the Drow(?) and while everyone else was level 12-14, he was lvl 24. His character was doing 500+ regular damage per hit attacks against my tide hunter. So either a)the fuck was cheating, or b) the game isn't balanced, either way it can suck a dick.
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HAHAHAHAH LOLOLOLOLO. Made my day.
 
The phases of playing dota:

1)Oh what is this game?
2)This game is ok I guess....
3) This game is fucking bullshit
4) I cannot stop thinking about dota
5) A dota player is born.
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You forgot #6, the realization that this game is fucking bullshit in the form of public games. It is designed around team cohesion which you don't get when you arrive in game with two fucking brazilians who can't speak english on the US servers.

You then consider quitting over and over but just can't convince yourself to stay away.

I am pretty close.
 
XvMMvX said:
You forgot #6, the realization that this game is fucking bullshit in the form of public games. It is designed around team cohesion which you don't get when you arrive in game with two fucking brazilians who can't speak english on the US servers.

You then consider quitting over and over but just can't convince yourself to stay away.

I am pretty close.
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You're very close, because for every game where you get the Brazilians, there's a game where the other team gets that. I had one game the other day (my first as Avernus in Dota 2), where my pub team did so well, I never even had a chance (or need) to go to the ss to spend my 8k.

There are plenty of frustrating games, and there are plenty of great ones.
 
XvMMvX said:
You forgot #6, the realization that this game is fucking bullshit in the form of public games. It is designed around team cohesion which you don't get when you arrive in game with two fucking brazilians who can't speak english on the US servers.

You then consider quitting over and over but just can't convince yourself to stay away.

I am pretty close.
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make friends to queue with.
 
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